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Question about my Stant 14168 180* Thermostat?!?

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Got a couple questions for those of you who have already installed the thermostat on your HEMI.

I just bought a Stant 14168 out of pure fear that I would throw codes with the other thermos that other people are using.
Waking up an old thread here:

1. Below is a picture of the top of the thermostat that I purchased, I drew a line to where I measured 2mm to trim. Is that correct?

2. I've heard somewhere that if you have a PowerWire installed, there really is no need for the 180* thermo? Is this true?

3. What about the more carbon build up and what not? I know there are downsides to the 180* thermo, what are they?

4. Also, I know this thermo has a bypass blocker or whatever, but will that hurt me in the summer? Its always hot down here and rarely gets cold. Maybe I just don't understand what exactly all that good stuff is. Can someone be so kind as to explain it to me?

5. Are there any tips or tricks or guidelines that I need to follow to install this beauty?
 

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#3 ·
I used the NAPA equivalent, only it's the one for the Mazdas. Has the little relief popup hole thingy already in it.
Trial trimmed it for fitment a couple times til it fit nicely with the grommet around it.

40k miles later, no issues to report.

As far as the lower temp causing carbon or whatnot, that's horseshiyat IMO. Keep in mind that vehicles ran 180 degree thermostats for decades before all the emission stuff started.
A cooler engine is a happier engine, up to a point.
 
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hemifever his stant already has the bypass blocker i do believe it is the same one as mine and it already has the little hole to allow coolant to pass through if needed on cold start-ups. No buildup here that i know of. Yes, that is where you need to trim to, and no this will not hurt summer driving.
-josh
 
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my 14168 didn't have a relief hole and I didn't see one in his pic unless it's hiding in that little section not visible in the pic. If it's there, don't worry about it. If it's not, drill 1/16 hole.

The biggest issue for running an engine too cool is the condensation build up under the valve covers and in the oil pan. If you make a bunch of drives that don't involve a good warm up (20 min run time), you will get excess condensation build up. Outside of that, if you change your oil on schedule and get good warm up cycles you won't have to worry about sludge buildup
 
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I do have alot of errand runs and stuff like that. I go to school, work and home. Its about a 15 -25 min drive to each. But I do run errands sometimes where I only drive for like 5-10 mins at a time. Will that cause excessive sludge build-up as well as excessive condensation?

I don't have the 1/16th hole in the flat part of the thermo. Is it really necessary? What does that benefit?
 
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There is a very small v-shaped slit (it's very small and very hard to see) in the 14168 so drilling a vent hole is not required. If you have SC's you don't need a PW, but the 180°F t-stat will still help to make more power by lowering the underhood/inlet air temps and also help to prevent spark knock and the resulting spark knock retard will causes power losses.
 
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SiZzOuRcE said:
I do have alot of errand runs and stuff like that. I go to school, work and home. Its about a 15 -25 min drive to each. But I do run errands sometimes where I only drive for like 5-10 mins at a time. Will that cause excessive sludge build-up as well as excessive condensation?

I don't have the 1/16th hole in the flat part of the thermo. Is it really necessary? What does that benefit?
Change your oil regularly with a good quality oil/filter and you will not have any issues with a 180°F t-stat.
 
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Alright. That sounds simply enough. Now, are their any tips or tricks or a guide that someone can throw together so I can install it sometime soon. I basically have an idea:

1. Drain
2. Take Hose Off
3. Take Thermo Out
4. Replace Thermo
5. Reattach Hose
6. Fill back up
 
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#11 ·
yea man just have some towels and a drain pan under where the radiator hose attacthes to the thermo cause no matter how i tried to drain it there was always a lot in there and it will get all over, so put some rags on the pulleys and engine stuff below the thermo. Oh yes and do not completely take out the thermo housing bolt that is hidden, it is the biggest PITA to get back in, but if you unscrew it 3/4 of the way you will be able to slide the housing around the thermo. Good luck man, its not a bad install its just the draining takes awhile.
-josh
 
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