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This is my first post so, Hello to all!!! After doing alot of reading about the torsion bar leveling thing, I decided to go ahead and do it today. It was very easy to do and took all of 20 minutes in my driveway. Here are the only tools you will need:
1) 1/2 inch rachet drive with a 3/4" socket (worked on mine)
2) Sharpie or other marker to mark the bolt position
3) Jack that will get your front tire completely off the ground.
4) JACK STANDS! DO NOT SKIP THESE, IT'S YOUR LIFE!
THAT'S IT!
I skipped the tape measure and did the following:
Once you have the front tire off the ground and the jack stands in place, mark the bolt with a line and turn it clockwise eight (8) full turns, no more and no less. Lower the truck and do the same on the other side.
Now, drive it around the block to make sure everything is seated. Next, stand back and look at your truck. If it looks nice and level to you, your done! If you think the front is too high, here is my Great Tip: YOU DO NOT NEED TO JACK THE TRUCK UP TO LOWER IT, ONLY TO GO UP!
So, if you think it should come down a little, get under there, no jacking required, and turn the bolt one (1) full turn COUNTER Clockwise. Now stand back and take another look. Repeat until satisfied.
I wound up with seven (7) turns on mine and it looks great. I also happen to like the way the handling and steering feels better now. I will have an alignment done this week, although it probably doesn't need one.
PLEASE NOTE THAT I AM NOT A MECHANIC AND THE ABOVE WAS DONE ON MY PERSONAL VEHICLE. TINKER AT YOUR OWN RISK AND READ WHATEVER YOU CAN SO THAT YOU WILL MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION FOR YOURSELF.
That being said, GET UNDER YOUR RAM AND CRANK 'ER UP!!!

(PIC WITH BADGES IS STOCK HEIGHT, DE-BADGED PICS ARE LEVELED)
 

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It sure looks a lot better. I did mine a few weeks ago and it looks and drives great. (w/ an alignment)
 

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Thanks for the reply boots. Just wondering, how far out was your alignment after the level? I have seen alot of people say you can skip it. Your thoughts... Also, how many turns/inches did you go?
 

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No matter what, I would suggest you not skip an alignment. Just take it in and have them see if it is off or not. If it is, then correct it. If not, then you're all good. Better to be safe than sorry. But it will probably be off a little. And you may want to look into changing your shocks in the near future. By the way, looks great. Big difference! NOW GET SOME BIGGER TIRES!!! :rck: :rck: :rck:
 

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Looks good. I was very impressed with a TB crank on my truck... especially with them cranked all the way... if I would have been able to get longer shocks at the same time I would have left it that way. Now its sitting level.
 

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Yeah, I wouldn't skip out on the alignment personally. Truck is looking nice and Welcome to Dodgetalk! :dtrocks:

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My tire company owed me an alignment, but I would have done it anyhow. I went up an 1.5" or so, 5-7 cranks. If I remember it sits 39.5" to the top of the wheel well.

Go for the alignment and play it safe!
 

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Looks great. Can you fit 35 inch tires on a 1500 that has just had the torsion keys cranked? Also, why would someone buy new torsion keys to achieve a level truck if simply turning the screw a few times will do the trick. All answers are welcome. I want to put 35x12.50x18's on and don't necessarily want a huge lift.

Thanks,
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looks great, i'm gonna try it again after I get my 285 BFG's on.
 

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JonHemi said:
Looks great. Can you fit 35 inch tires on a 1500 that has just had the torsion keys cranked? Also, why would someone buy new torsion keys to achieve a level truck if simply turning the screw a few times will do the trick. All answers are welcome. I want to put 35x12.50x18's on and don't necessarily want a huge lift.

Thanks,
Jon

There have been quite a few folks on here who have squeezed on 35's after doing a TB crank. Off hand, I can't think of their names, but there's plenty around here.

Some people feel uneasy about cranking the torsion bars as they have had/seen/heard bad things with premature wear on parts, so they get that extra peace of mind with a kit that was made for this purpose. Those who do adjust their torsion bars do so because it's FREE and QUICK. Just my opinion.
 

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JonHemi said:
Looks great. Can you fit 35 inch tires on a 1500 that has just had the torsion keys cranked? Also, why would someone buy new torsion keys to achieve a level truck if simply turning the screw a few times will do the trick. All answers are welcome. I want to put 35x12.50x18's on and don't necessarily want a huge lift.

Thanks,
Jon
I did the torsion Keys instead of cranking the bolts and added a 2.5" add a leaf in the rear .... already had the front leveled and didnt like it when I towed the boat so added the leafs to give it that dipped nose..... I think I am from center rim to lower fender edge like 40 or 41 inches which I will verify for you later today. I am running 35x12.5x20 Mud Grapplers the only rubbing I get is on the sway bar (Looks Shiney) on hard right turns and the plastic on the inner fender well on the drivers side only.


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There have been quite a few folks on here who have squeezed on 35's after doing a TB crank. Off hand, I can't think of their names, but there's plenty around here.

Some people feel uneasy about cranking the torsion bars as they have had/seen/heard bad things with premature wear on parts, so they get that extra peace of mind with a kit that was made for this purpose. Those who do adjust their torsion bars do so because it's FREE and QUICK. Just my opinion.
I am one of those that didnt want to do the bolt crank lift cause of some of the stories I had heard but havent seen any documented but like you said for piece of mind.
Any time you change the angle's on the front end from factory specs you are gonna get premature wear ........

and I agree with the other guys make sure you get an aligment after the crank or you will be eating tires pretty fast.
 

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I did the torsion Keys instead of cranking the bolts and added a 2.5" add a leaf in the rear .... already had the front leveled and didnt like it when I towed the boat so added the leafs to give it that dipped nose..... I think I am from center rim to lower fender edge like 40 or 41 inches which I will verify for you later today. I am running 35x12.5x20 Mud Grapplers the only rubbing I get is on the sway bar (Looks Shiney) on hard right turns and the plastic on the inner fender well on the drivers side only.


I am one of those that didnt want to do the bolt crank lift cause of some of the stories I had heard but havent seen any documented but like you said for piece of mind.
Any time you change the angle's on the front end from factory specs you are gonna get premature wear ........

and I agree with the other guys make sure you get an aligment after the crank or you will be eating tires pretty fast.
right on man. i didn't want to come across to anyone as bashing them for their choice. i probably would have gone the route of the torsion keys too, but with a baby on the way i have to keep things simple and cheap.
 

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03RAM59L said:
right on man. i didn't want to come across to anyone as bashing them for their choice. i probably would have gone the route of the torsion keys too, but with a baby on the way i have to keep things simple and cheap.
I dint take it as bashing ..... and I understand about the baby issue of money cause I have a 3.5 month old daughter and money is very tight at the moment;) ... by the way congrats too :rck:
 

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Congrats to both of you on the new "mods" to the families.

I don't mean to step on your toes hogcrik, but I've read that you only want to adjust the torsion bars into tension (going up). So if you have to go down, you're supposed to go 1 turn past where you want it, then come back up that 1 turn. So if you need to go down 1 turn, go down 2, then back up 1. I'm not sure why that is, I'm just repeating what I've seen here on DT, by other members. Maybe someone a little more suspension educated will chime in and explain it. Great looking truck by the way.


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...... already had the front leveled and didnt like it when I towed the boat......
I had the same issue with a heavy trailer (or loaded bed), so I put air bags on. They let me sit level when the truck's empty, but I can air them up when loaded, so I can be level then too.
 

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Congrats to both of you on the new "mods" to the families.

I don't mean to step on your toes hogcrik, but I've read that you only want to adjust the torsion bars into tension (going up). So if you have to go down, you're supposed to go 1 turn past where you want it, then come back up that 1 turn. So if you need to go down 1 turn, go down 2, then back up 1. I'm not sure why that is, I'm just repeating what I've seen here on DT, by other members. Maybe someone a little more suspension educated will chime in and explain it. Great looking truck by the way.



I had the same issue with a heavy trailer (or loaded bed), so I put air bags on. They let me sit level when the truck's empty, but I can air them up when loaded, so I can be level then too.
I never did the turn down two and up one but it probably has to do with the front end settling and putting tension back on the bars.
 

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I never did the turn down two and up one but it probably has to do with the front end settling and putting tension back on the bars.
I did two full turns down, to level my truck, no problems I'm happy to report: I haven't noticed or felt any tension loss. But then again it was cranked almost to the max! Minus a full turn!! My local off-road shop had some young kid crank my T-bars last summer, and needless to say, he got a little carried away. The next day I got a wheel alignment at my local Dodge stealership, after that I decided to buy new / longer shocks, and live with it. My front-end was just too tall, even with my rear end sitting better i.e. no sagging - after replacing the OEM shocks with Bilsteins.

Finally I got under there myself two months ago, and leveled it, one full turn at a time = 2 turns both sides. Now I have 40 1/2" all the way around ^

Originally I just wanted to crank my T-bars to level the truck, and get a feel for just how tall of a suspension or body-lift I could live with? In the event that I should decide to keep my truck: something I'm leaning towards, since it's paid for.

I will say this much about cranking your torsion bars, you will definitely start to thinking about lifting your truck.
 
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