i went to the mud hole the other night with some buddies and we got the bright idea of hooking up in the parking lot. my buddy has a 2005 f-150 4 door king ranch edition, i have an 03 quad cab with the hemi. anyways, at first neither of us were movin but the tires were smokin. then i started to pull him backwards til he finally gave up. just thought i would let yall know.