[maka]

Is it bad to remove the overload spring along with another spring to bring it down even more? Also hand tightening the bolts for the springs by hand are ok?

 

[1tonmegacab]

i would think if you dont haul a lot of stuff the removing some springs would be ok ( but i am no expert) but i am sure slammed1 and few of the other lowriders here can answer these questions very quick

as far as spring/suspension bolts i know most shops i talk to say they just hit them with the impact but i would think there would be some torque spec for proper installation

 

[slammed1]

when you have drop shackles and you remove the overload and the middle leaf you have to run shorter bumpstops and either shorter rear shocks or rear shock extensions for it to ride like it should and not real rough or bottoming out.This mod if you are doing all 3(shackles,middle leaf and overload removal) will make the rear sit lower than the front........if your truck had 3" rake to begin with.

Most rear suspension bolts need to be tightened to 100ftlbs.

 

[maka]

when you have drop shackles and you remove the overload and the middle leaf you have to run shorter bumpstops and either shorter rear shocks or rear shock extensions for it to ride like it should and not real rough or bottoming out.This mod if you are doing all 3(shackles,middle leaf and overload removal) will make the rear sit lower than the front........if your truck had 3" rake to begin with.

Most rear suspension bolts need to be tightened to 100ftlbs.

So I could remove the overload spring and the very bottom spring, and hand tighten it as much as I could and have no problems with stock 17s?

 

[slammed1]

Most of the time the bottom main leaf is retained because it has the built in spring clamp.

Lets get more specific here.....
what exactly are you running right now????
do you have short shackles???
are you just wanting level or what???

 

[maka]

I dont want to put money into it and I am completely stock. Im looking for a litle more of a level, anything is better than nothing.

 

[kruser79]

Short shackles and removing the overload will get you about as close to level as you can get. I know you want to do this without any money, I just don't think you can get away scott free.

 

[maka]

Quick question, Ive seen people remove overload spings and still use spring clamps. What do you clamp it to after removing the overload?

 

[slammed1]

Quick question, Ive seen people remove overload spings and still use spring clamps. What do you clamp it to after removing the overload?

ones who do that didnt realize what was going on.Just using a clamp on the main leafs will just keep them together better but not drop the truck.Only drops when used on the overloads.

for the record.....spring clamps were NOT designed to do what guys are using them for,they are actually for replacing worn or missing spring clamps that were factory installed........old drag racers would use a few sets on the fronts of their leafs to clamp the leafs togehter so the leafs would not wrap up as easily...........clamping the main pack to the overload wasnt the intended use just something guys found as a cheap drop............draw backs are stiff rides and premautre sagging of the rear leafs.

Not bashing those who use them at all because it is a econo way,just not a fan myself,my back doesnt like stiff as a brick suspensions.

 

[maka]

Would it affect anything in the long run brian?I wouldnt mind taking a couple minutes out of my day to install these instead of hours for the overload spring.