First off - I'm a lurker. I hang around and usually find the answers I need easily. This one however - has me stumped as I'm finding conflicting information and the local dealer I typically visit (and have to turn down from them purchasing my truck every time I pull in) gave me a canned answer of 'check the door'. Jokes on them - checking the door it only shows front/rear axle max weights and the truck weight - no gross combined weight as they keep telling me (service adviser even came and checked and said that's odd). I'm not new to towing - but the heaviest thing I pulled was in the 6500lb range (loaded StarCraft pop-up trailer) and hauled about 5500lbs in the bed of the truck on a separate occasion (oops..guy told me the boxes were 20lbs each when they were really 20kgs).
Anyway - I have a 2003 Ram 2500, single cab, 8' bed, 5.7 Hemi, NV4500 with 4.10 gears. The magic of the internet tells me the GCVW is 17k, curb weight of 5500 which leaves max tow of 11.5k.
Door sticker shows GVWR at 8650. Loading the truck up to the max means I could only pull 8300lbs. Knowing I would never had the truck loaded to the gills I could potentially move that weight to the trailer to balance out again to around 10-11k towing (family of 4 means need a chase vehicle anyway).
The trailer we're considering has an unloaded weight of 8800 with cargo capacity of 4400 - maxes out at 13200 (+/- 15lbs, rounded numbers down for easier calculations). Going straight off GVWR of the trailer, I'm over by about a ton (ballparking 6k truck, I've had it weight at a facilty before with me +1 in it and it was just under 6k).
Now that's a full load. 1900lbs in water (220 gal), 1700lb toy, 200lbs gas and 600lbs of 'crap'. Do I tow full? No, not that stupid. I know I can tow nearly empty and fill up when we get to (or closer to) the destination. I think the most I really would be carrying would be about 2000lbs if I brought the toy with which leaves me with a couple hundred lbs breathing room (16.8k).
Trailer GVWR 13264lbs, 4467 of that is cargo. UVW is 8797, 1264 hitch weight.
Internet tells me I can do 11,400lbs behind my truck.
Logic tells me I can tow it empty no problem. Camping trips are fine. Off-Grid camping with the toy would be pushing it.
I'm talking with the dealer of the camper to see if they have one of those fancy scales there that I can get front/rear/tounge/trailer weights and really get some solid evidence to make this purchase sound. If not (and I'd hate to do it) I would have to use my inlaw's truck to haul this thing anywhere which sucks (well, until my new truck comes in).