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#1 Old 08-13-2005, 06:32 PM
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Transmission fluid type

ATF III was put in my transmission accidentally anr run for about 75 miles. I have drained it and put in AFT IV. The tranny slipped like hell w/ the ATF III, does anyone know if it would do any serious damage internally?

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What year truck? The 95?
My 00 required only plus 3. So the +3 would work in the 95
I run dexron/mercron now

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I run dexron/mercron now
hows that? is it cuz of your rebuild?


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I don't know if it hurt it, however, I know that TSB 21-006-01 says that ATF4 should be used in 1994-2002 Ram trucks.
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hows that? is it cuz of your rebuild?
Yeah,
As to the ATF plus 4, I wouldnt run it unless your truck came from the factory with it. It has a friction modifer in it to help clutch chatter. Friction modifier creates a bit of slippage. No thanks.
The Dexron may cause a bit clutch chatter, but it doesnt run friction modifier in it.

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i heard from a local shop that they use dexron/mercon with lubegard tranny additive in all their transmissions, including chrysler. read up on lubegard and says that adding it makes fluid compatable to the atf4 standards.


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transgo ( very knowledgable) says to add life to your transmission to run synthetic fluid (such as amsoil) (but not mobil, though i know many people who havent had trouble with mobil synthetic tranny fluid, i do know of some people who did, but NOBODY ever said they had tranny failure due to amsoil!!)
anyhow, back at the ranch.
TransGo says to run synthetic, but if you want to keep costs down, run 8 quarts synethic and fill the rest of the way with dexron!!
Many, and i mean more than 20, many transmission "specialists" have told me to run dexron in these transmissions, the only reason to run ATF+ is because its mopar fluid, mopar gets a cut.
I used to run Amsoil but one day my tranny cooler line blew off (quick connect coupler wasnt on all the way when i installed the new cooler) and emptied out my tranny quick, so i had to refill with atf+3, but soon im getting ready to put the shift kit in (which ive owned new in the box now for about 2 years, lazy) and switch back to all amsoil, i loved it, the tranny shifted MUCH better, ran WAY cooler and over all performed better.
From every ounce of breath i have, it is worth every penny you need to save up to get the AmsOil ATF!!! do it and you will NEVER regret it for a second. its well worth the price, it does cost about $80 just to do a filter change, but more than likley it will be your last filter change for at least a loooooong time, my amsoil stayed nice and pink for 30,000 miles before the line blew, atf+ used to turn crappy after about 2,000 miles. Ask around the board and check some posts doing a search, you will see many happy people running amsoil. I know i was.
oh, and no i dont sell the stuff, and i even actually use mobil one oils in my ram in every other place except the transmission and transfer case.
speaking of which, my transfer case used to make a whining noise when in 4wd, when i switched to amsoil in my transmission i did the same for my transfer case, no noise! not then, and not now with 50,000 more miles, used to shift shitty into gears (transfer case) now i can go from 2H-4H and back and speed (up to 50 like recommended) VERY smoothly, i have many people ride with me who have said to me "shouldnt you put it in 4WD?" and i say "already did" its that smooth and quick. now, results may vary but it did make a huge differance for me.
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I have run the Amsoil Universal ATF since 60,000 miles I now have over 90,000 miles and it still looks nice and red and shifts fine. The tranny shop I use doesn't use Amsoil. He uses ATF+3 and adds an additive to it. But I got a torque converter shudder in it after about 3000 miles so I had it flushed out and Amsoil put in. Well worth the price of it.

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I cant get any shop anywhere to flush my tranny out and add amsoil, they will not do it unless they can add their fluid (atf+3), which would just be tossing my $100 down the crapper.
I could do it myself, but the cost and waste would be rediculous to me.

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see, i figured i'd say that a local shop told me about the dexron and additive, cuz that's whats in my tranny now. 13 quarts of it. i just didn't want to post that and see NOOO DON'T USE DEXRON lol

i had my transgo kit put in at aamco in late july. got home after i dropped it off and forgot to double check with their tech to see what fluid they use, just to be safe. i was gonna ask him when we were talking over the kit options and setup, and forgot. called them up and he says

"we use dexron/mercon v with an additive in our chryslers. yes, all of them. even the ones that say they require +4. they only say that to make sure you get the right viscosity of oil in there to provide the correct lubrication. been doing it this way for years."

i was a little freaked, but i just kinda said alright then. i mean, only things i've read about tranny fluids is on message boards, and this guy is a tranny tech.

after i hung up with him, i called three other shops in the area, two transmission specialties (cottman and economy transmission). same answer. dexron with lubegard.

went and got my truck at their closing time, and it was shifting like a CHAMP. and, i've found with slight adjustments of the tv cable now, i can really control the firmness and points, to whether i feel like barking into second (yes, a v6 will chirp second. hard. 4.10s and a locker don't hurt though)

then the next week, my girlfriend and i took a 1500 mile road trip from Boise, ID to Santa Barbara, CA and back. super hot outside, and it shifted like a pro the whole way there. hell, when we got there after a final 6hr freeway jaunt and rolled into santa barbara and drove downtown, 1-2 shift was banging just like it had when we left that morning, and grabbing into 3rd super quick too without any slip or chatter.

so my guess is, they sure were right. its just a matter of having that right viscosity to get a new chrysler to shift the way it was meant to and without harming the tranny. having the shift kit in there sure makes me feel better about longevity as well. i will be going back to all amsoil in the future however, since i'm sure it is superior to what is in there now, but thats not to say that dexron and additive won't work at all. in fact, its working quite well.


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i just had my trans rebuilt and the guy told me not to pour in any additive like lucas, now i think its running like shit, when its cold its hessitant and other shit. the trnas shop says its fine (offcourse) what do you guys think should i pour in a quart of lucas?

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I would not use the Lucas. The lube guard additive that is being talked about is completely differnt than this.

It is nice to see people having good experiences using an ATF offer than the Chrysler +4

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