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Just ordered Harland Sharp rockers
- Posted: 01-02-2013, 08:33 PM
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Well I finally broke down and ordered the rockers today. I have been reading about them for months but found conflicting threads regarding what gains were recovered.
From what I researched my factory cam has .410 lift on both Intake and exhaust. I figure the 1:7 should get me to .430. So what should I expect to see with this mod?
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-02-2013, 08:45 PM
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closer to .440... some guys have reported modest gains from a 318 stock .432 cam. i wouldnt go about it that way. the HS 1.7s are just a nice easy way to get out another 10hp and alittle noise.
thinner head gaskets will raise the compression ratio just a bit also. 5-10hp.. have fun!
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parts for sale $125: 210lb double and dampener valve springs .550 lift $20 : new, standard oil pump $15 : new, super strength moog #377 frt axle hub universal w/ grease fitting prices include shipping (for residence of the US) cheep shoot PMs my way |
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Posted: 01-02-2013, 09:27 PM
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The Harland Sharp roller rockers are great. I am using them on my 390 in my Dart. I stayed with the 1.6 ratio because of the big ass cam and geometry.
The 1.7's will get you a bit of power because of the lift increase (It will put you at .435 instead of .410). It won't be anything earth shattering, but it will free up some friction HP, along with the valve lift increase. |
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Posted: 01-06-2013, 06:43 AM
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.442 lift. 8hp gain at the rear wheels on dyno.
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2002 ram 1500 slt quad 4x4 5.9 performance mods-comp cam,2.02 heads, h.s 1.7rr's,hughes airgap,sct, pacesetter lt's, flexalite e-fan, 52mm fastman,2600patc, msd 8.5 wires, msd coil, aem wideband,aem trans,aem boost,inovate lm2, magnaflow,vortech 8lbs,intercooler,accel 2 bar map,fms 39lb injectors,255 walbro fuel pump,streetfire ign box appearence mods- chrome ventvisors,chrome big mouth grill,chrome upper bumper, stainless gas cap, stainless go ghino side 3 steps, chrome tail lights, chrome mirrors,chrome 3rd brake light,chrome handles,billet shortie ant,projector headlights,projector fogs, color matched rhino liner bed and rockers, dick cepek dc-1 blacks, dick cepek 35"crusher tires, leveled, debaged, 20% tint. http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/...0/SAM_0775.jpg |
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Posted: 01-12-2013, 09:39 AM
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I have the 1.7's in a 3.9 V6 and felt better performance across the board. And a more loppy idle to boot!
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*DodgeTalk.com 318 Enthusiast Member #(47)* Ram 1500, 239 C.I. Magnum, 5-Speed NV3500, 109,100 miles SuperChips Tuner K&N FIPK MSD 6AL Ignition MSD 8.5mm wires Harland Sharp 1.7 Roller Rockers JBA Headers MagnaFlow Cat-back Duals |
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Posted: 01-12-2013, 05:46 PM
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Ok they are here! I added 16 ounces of Rislone oil supplement to the crankcase. This stuff has zinc in it to help the rockers break in period. Rockers are soaking in oil. I plan on installing them Sunday afternoon.
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-13-2013, 03:05 PM
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The truck is now back up and running. First impression is WOW!More details to come.
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-13-2013, 08:31 PM
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OK so I went out for a ride. I feel a nice bump in power off the line and exhaust is a little louder now. What a nice bolt on a must do in my opinion.
Next will be a throttle body. I have it narrowed down to Hughes stage 2 or Fast Man any thoughts?
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-13-2013, 08:57 PM
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I have heard good things about fastman, but do not have either installed on my truck. more about the roller rockers, how easy were they to install and set, do you just take the old ones off and put these on and tighten, or do you have to tighten and then check valve clearance? i was looking at the 1.7's too.
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1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Sport 5.9 Magnum 58,000 original miles High flow magnaflow y pipes and catayltic convertor into a flowmaster delta flow 40 series muffler, with duals coming out the sides behind the wheels. Taylor Thundervolt 8.2 mm wires Spectre Cold Air Intake Custom Blue LED Night Effects underneath the dash. 15% Tint all the way around Soon to Come... Custom Spark Plug Wires Wire Loom Hughes Plenum Kit Kenwood Excelon Head Unit Memphis 3 ways with moveable Trebels |
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Posted: 01-14-2013, 06:23 AM
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98ramtruck,
All you have to do is unbolt the old setup and remove. The new RRs mount directly on the head. What I did as no instructions were provided was to bolt them down hand tight and make sure the pushrod end falls inside the socket on the RR arm. Next I turn spun my crankshaft two full rotations to ensure I had no jams and to help the pushrods center themselves. My Haynes manual states 200in/pounds which is around 18ft/pounds. So I torgued everything down to 25ft/pounds. 18 just did not feel tight enough especially with how tight the old one were to remove. Perhaps it was locktight. Honestly is was more trouble removing the valve covers this job is easy. It took me four hours to complete, but I'm a perfectionist and I clean things as I go. As I said before I'm down to three more mods. 1. throttle body 2. MSD setup and 3. Air Gap Intake. I will not bother with heads or SCT until I need a new engine. Depending on what gas prices do will determine if I stroke or turbo but these are my long term goals (3 years+) My prefrence would be stroke, but turbo if prices get stupid again.
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-14-2013, 06:43 AM
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Fast man thottle body mod is good, out of all my mods this one made the most noticable differance, makes the truck feel nice and light.
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Edelbrock TEF headers American thunder system magnaflow hi flow cat 180 'stat Mopar/K&N round filter 52mm throttle body Harland Sharp 1.7 roller rockers Bilstein HD shocks Flash SCT EBC discs and yellow stuff pads Hellwig rear sway bar What next???????? |
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Posted: 01-20-2013, 05:24 PM
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Hey guys well I changed my mind. I worked my ass off the last two weeks and got 29 hours of overtime. Looks like I will have the $600.00 for the Air Gap intake. I rather get the big $ stuff out of the way. I can always get the throttle body later and it is 1/3 the price.
Stay tuned! This stuff is addictive!
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-21-2013, 11:50 AM
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Good write up. Where did you get the parts and how much?
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Posted: 01-21-2013, 04:11 PM
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I paid $287.00 shipped to my door. I got them on Ebay from a store called Shannon engineering.
Oh bye the way I ordered the Hughes Air Gap intake and Big Gulp TB. I CAN'T WAIT till Friday! ![]()
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-22-2013, 06:37 PM
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That's how it was when I started modding mine. It is addictive for sure.
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1999 RAM 1500, 4WD QC, Auto, 5.91.7 Harland Sharp RR's, Mopar Magnum polished aluminum valve covers Hughes FI airgap, 52mm Fastman tb, Fastman similator 4.56 gears pro flo open air gutted cat with 1 in 2 out magnaflow SCT tune by Hemifever Taylor 8.2 thundervolt, duralast cap and rotor with brass inserts 180 thermostat with Hypertech high output coil ASP underdrive crank pulley Doug Thorley ceramic tri-y headers steering box brace Bushwacker extend-a-fender flares Warrior 2 1/2" leveling kit AAL to rear springs + 1" zero rate block to spring stack. 3" body lift 37x13.50 Mickey Thompson ATZ on 18" eagle wheels Transmission cooler added along with transgo shift kit deep transmission pan, + 4 quarts black nerf bars and grill black bull bars |
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Posted: 01-23-2013, 09:49 AM
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Cblake, lucky dude you have tri-y's.
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Posted: 01-23-2013, 04:17 PM
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Yeah, they are ceramic too. I have had no problems so far.
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1999 RAM 1500, 4WD QC, Auto, 5.91.7 Harland Sharp RR's, Mopar Magnum polished aluminum valve covers Hughes FI airgap, 52mm Fastman tb, Fastman similator 4.56 gears pro flo open air gutted cat with 1 in 2 out magnaflow SCT tune by Hemifever Taylor 8.2 thundervolt, duralast cap and rotor with brass inserts 180 thermostat with Hypertech high output coil ASP underdrive crank pulley Doug Thorley ceramic tri-y headers steering box brace Bushwacker extend-a-fender flares Warrior 2 1/2" leveling kit AAL to rear springs + 1" zero rate block to spring stack. 3" body lift 37x13.50 Mickey Thompson ATZ on 18" eagle wheels Transmission cooler added along with transgo shift kit deep transmission pan, + 4 quarts black nerf bars and grill black bull bars |
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Posted: 01-23-2013, 06:18 PM
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Well I went to the local U pull it and graped a throttle body for $35.00 it has MAP, IAC and TPS. What a deal! I will strip it down and send it to Hughes as my core for the Big Gulp.
I also raided a wiring harness for IAT connector and Pick up connector at the coil. My intensions are to not disturb the harness when I relocate the IAT to the AEM Brute Force air hat. The coil will be for the future MSD ignition system. I will maintain the originals in the stock locations incase I go back to stock. So If anyone wants to buy a non EGR intake from a 2000 with the Hughes plate and a Hypertech programmer PM me. TWO MORE DAYS!!! ![]()
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2000 Ram 1500 SLT Quad cab Larmie 4X4 5.9L auto 3.55 Posi w/ tow package AEM Brute Force (Durango) cold air intake Flowtech shorties-Not direct fit to Y-pipe Magna flow Cat pipes w/Magna flow muffler duals Hyper Tech III prgrammer on 87 Hughes Airgap intake and Big Gulp TB Harland Sharp Rockers 1:7 Hell Bent Steal 2" leveling kit 4x4 Posi Loc. deleted CAD Off road edition wheels w/ 265 65 R17 Broken dashboard mod free from Dodge |
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Posted: 01-30-2013, 09:10 PM
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Mods can get to be a habit....
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1998 5.9 Q-cab 1500, flowmaster 50, SSBC calipers, EBC yellow pads, Brembo slotted rotors, oversize rear wheel cylinders, stainless brake lines, bilstien shocks, white face gauges, magna hi flow cat, Taylor wires on NGK plugs, Shorty Headers, 285s, 180 thermo, Sport clear headlights, rino liner, Hughes alum deep pan on a Jasper reman trans, SCT tune, Hughes airgap, 2x50mm modded throttle body, Mopar round air cleaner, accel blue and Mopar cast valve covers... 1.7 HS rockers.. |
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