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  1985 Dodge w150 engine swaps - Posted: 10-20-2012, 09:02 PM
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Just curious about if it would be worth it to swap the 318 out thats in it for something bigger maybe like a 360 or maybe even a 440. Just wondering your takes on it if it would be worth it and which motor would be best. Any ones opinion would be nice.
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 Posted: 10-20-2012, 11:36 PM
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i'm thinking the 360 swap would be easiest. what kind of transmission?
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 Posted: 10-21-2012, 09:05 AM
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ok and its got the 727 3 speed tranny
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 Posted: 10-21-2012, 09:39 AM
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a 360 is your best choice. Small blocks take the trans(727A) you already have. Big blocks take the 727B. You didn't say what you will be using the truck for. So what would be best depends on that.
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 Posted: 10-21-2012, 10:07 AM
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O id just be useing the truck to drive and maybe a little bit of mudding not much but i just want it to have a little bit more power
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 Posted: 10-23-2012, 06:11 PM
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yeah if you got a 440 you'd have to get a transmission. the big block would be a lot more fun though. if you can, get a 360 magnum from a 90 something truck, put a 4 barrel and headers on it and kick up some mud
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 Posted: 10-23-2012, 07:15 PM
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Im currently building up a 318 that should push out 350-400 hp.....I hope. That should be enough for some fun. I considered doing the 440 thing myself but the cost wasn't worth it to me.

If you tune up that 318 and its running nice with a few upgrades, you'll get some power out of it.
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hey when we get our trucks back on the road we should go to the track in baton rouge
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 Posted: 10-23-2012, 08:25 PM
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I'll give you a run for your money
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208 t-case/727A trans w/3.23 gears
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so you saying i'd have to give sabrina a super tune up?
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 Posted: 10-23-2012, 10:05 PM
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Yeah.....
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 Posted: 10-24-2012, 05:40 PM
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what kind of upgrades would i have to do to the 318 inorder to give it some more power
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 Posted: 10-24-2012, 05:56 PM
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headers, i would say a HEI ignition upgrade, a 4 barrel carb if you dont have one. possibly an intake too. anything that would help it breathe.

you could add larger valves to the heads, upgrade cam, port the heads. the biggest issue with the 318 is low compression, breathability, smog equipment, and crapping stock cam. for compression you could get thinner head gaskets. or if you want to really dig into it, flat top pistons and zero deck the block to increase compression.

by the way, my 318 is shot. so i wont be doing that build. i'm thinking about doing a magnum 360 upgrade to mine
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LA 360 bored .030 over, EQ Magnum heads, Hooker Headers, true dual exhaust, Holley 4160 w/Truck Avenger parts, Edelbrock Performer dual plane intake, StreetFire ignition box & MSD coil
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 Posted: 10-24-2012, 07:50 PM
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O ok which way do you think that it would be cheaper
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I would start with headers, intake, & 4 bbl carb. Also ditch any smog stuff. Probably the cheaper and easier upgrades. Make sure timing is correct and vacuum is good.

The HEI ignition upgrade I liked, but a lot of mopar guys will say its not necessary. Best route would be msd 6a ignition

If you still want more then you can take the heads off, port, bigger valves, and reinstall with thin head gaskets. And install an after market cam.

After that, it'll be boring the cylinders, changing to bigger pistons and zero decking the block.

All that would run about a thousand bucks or so. Google "318 build" you'll find some cool articles of guys making 400 hp 318's.
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LA 360 bored .030 over, EQ Magnum heads, Hooker Headers, true dual exhaust, Holley 4160 w/Truck Avenger parts, Edelbrock Performer dual plane intake, StreetFire ignition box & MSD coil
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Im thinking the magnum 360 would be cheap and a good route. Get one from a junk yard for like 200 bucks or so.

I was into doing a 318 build just so I could tell people my little 318 has more hp than their 360
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LA 360 bored .030 over, EQ Magnum heads, Hooker Headers, true dual exhaust, Holley 4160 w/Truck Avenger parts, Edelbrock Performer dual plane intake, StreetFire ignition box & MSD coil
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 Posted: 10-24-2012, 09:00 PM
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O ok ill prolly go to a junk yard sometime and see how much it will cost for a 360
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I REALLY REALLY REALLY like my 440 so far....
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 Posted: 10-25-2012, 01:01 PM
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Ya but for me a 440 would cost a lot more so I'm leaning towards a 360 because of cost
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Keep in mind if you get a junk yard engine that it'd be wise to rebuild it before swapping it
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LA 360 bored .030 over, EQ Magnum heads, Hooker Headers, true dual exhaust, Holley 4160 w/Truck Avenger parts, Edelbrock Performer dual plane intake, StreetFire ignition box & MSD coil
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