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  Rock Rails, What the hey? - Posted: 06-08-2012, 01:03 PM
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So I hate to bring this up...

Why no Rock Rails for the PW? Or am I just not looking in the right places?

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Rock Slide Engineering is in the process right now of finalizing sliders for the 4th gen wagons.
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So I hate to bring this up...

Why no Rock Rails for the PW? Or am I just not looking in the right places?

When the PW was first reintroduced in 2005 they were offered as a Mopar accessory, but because of low sales they were discontinued in 2007.
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Rock Slide Engineering is in the process right now of finalizing sliders for the 4th gen wagons.
Cool! Thanks!
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When the PW was first reintroduced in 2005 they were offered as a Mopar accessory, but because of low sales they were discontinued in 2007.
Kinda should been on the truck from day one, but Dodge still thinks of it as a 2500 with option package P29 or some such nonsense.

Oh well. Thanks!
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I am interested too.
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Everyone that really uses the truck wants them... ...but how much are we willing to pay?

If Mother Ram loved us they'd have them standard along with a real bumper, provision for driving lights, and a rear bumper with a swing-out tire mount.
And we'd have 35s stock and be able to fit 37s without mods.
Thats love...
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Everyone that really uses the truck wants them... ...but how much are we willing to pay?

If Mother Ram loved us they'd have them standard along with a real bumper, provision for driving lights, and a rear bumper with a swing-out tire mount.
And we'd have 35s stock and be able to fit 37s without mods.
Thats love...
You my friend should have been in the design room while the Power Wagon was being built. While you were there you could have got us lockers that actually lock without any kind of magic.
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The last time I talked to RSE, they said the rails should be in the $700-800 price range.
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The last time I talked to RSE, they said the rails should be in the $700-800 price range.
I'd be up for that if they had an integrated step so the Missus would stop bitchin...
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An integrated step would kinda defeat the purpose of rock rail/sliders... They're meant to protect the bottom of the cab AND allow the vehicle to "slide" off the rock/obstruction. If there was a step, it would end up hanging up the truck and get stuck.
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 Posted: 06-13-2012, 01:28 PM
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I am looking for these as well can you post more information? If you have it?
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An integrated step would kinda defeat the purpose of rock rail/sliders... They're meant to protect the bottom of the cab AND allow the vehicle to "slide" off the rock/obstruction. If there was a step, it would end up hanging up the truck and get stuck.
I'll take a little nub sticking out a little more to the side --- good for the wife to scamper up and also good for nudging trees away from my door handle.

And while we're at it, there's no real "Jesus handle" in the truck for my wife to hang on when I'm rocking the boat or on some stupid angle. The Jeep had a rollbar and I strapped an Jesus handle to it but the thing in the PW is useless for that...
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 Posted: 06-13-2012, 02:38 PM
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Just e-mailed them and got this reply:


Hi,

Yes we just released the product today!! I have attached some pictures of the installed product for you to see.

As for your questions.

Price: 899.00

Rock Slider? Yes they are a true rock slider and can support weight. We are now working on integrating a step into them just like we have done on the 4Door JK, but right now they are just sliders.


Material: They are made out of 3/16" steel and weigh 120 a set.

Rhino Lined: Yes you can get them Rhino lined. I can sell them bare steel to you or they come powder coated black wrinkle finish.

Install? I can Install them for you. 3.5 hour install 262.50.

Thanks for your interest in our product!
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I am not sure how I feel about these. I like how they look and the amount of clearance they have. They don't look like they attach to the frame, so how much weight could they really hold??? Doesn't look like it would work for a step and I don't really want to get one with a motorized step like the one she referred to (costing double plus adding more things to go wrong). What do you guys think?
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I said it in the other thread but they don't look like they are long enough to me. Shouldn't they go all the way to the rear tire?
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I'd be up for that if they had an integrated step so the Missus would stop bitchin...
i gave in to the wifeey this time. AMP boards are now installed. they tuck under and up very nice though.

yes, rock rails should go to the rear fender opening. stupid stupid stupid.

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Those RSE "sliders" look like a complete joke!

IMO, you cannot have a true slider unless it's attached to the frame (preferably by welding).

These are 60 lb a side and just bolt to the body!?! One hit on these and they'll cave the body up since they're more stout than the sheet metal they're attached to. Not going to be pretty.

Not to mention how tight these fit up to the body...natural moisture/salt/grime trap. They should know better in Utah as we use hideous amounts of salt on the roads here.

I could go on...and, yes they should certainly go all the way to the back fender.

I just ordered a custom set of DOM tubular weld on sliders from Armorology in Colorado Springs. Materials ordered now, but produced & installed late August. (Yes, you need to get in line for craftsmanship like this.)

They'll be 48-50 lb. per side. Inner/main tube will be 2" .188 (3/16") wall, and outer will be 1.75" .120 wall. Welded to frame with 2" x 3" box steel mounts. Going to be amazing and worth the wait.

They're also about 50% more though than RSE's, all powdercoated & installed.
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Any pics of these rock rails you are getting made, or are they a custom first time job for this company? You said about 50% more than the RSE, so we are looking about $1500 right? Will they work as a step as well? I am in WY so I am definitely interested in this option as I could avoid shipping costs. Please post pics as you get them!
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Any pics of these rock rails you are getting made, or are they a custom first time job for this company? You said about 50% more than the RSE, so we are looking about $1500 right? Will they work as a step as well? I am in WY so I am definitely interested in this option as I could avoid shipping costs. Please post pics as you get them!
No pics yet...won't have any until they're in production late August. Just imagine a pretty traditional double tube slider that will function as a low profile/out of the way step as well. Inner main tube with an outer hoop connected to main tube at each end with little "stringers" in between.

Just Google Armorology to see their work. These are a typical design for them. Their welds & attention to detail are second to none IMO.

They'll be a little north of $1700 all done. You'd have to be willing to drive down to get them ordered and then back down for a few days when it comes time to produce & install.

They just made me a cool, but very simple fire extinguisher bracket for my drivers seat too. I'll post pics later. Came out great.

I'm actually passing through Laramie today heading back to SLC. I'll give you a wave.
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Those RSE "sliders" look like a complete joke!

IMO, you cannot have a true slider unless it's attached to the frame (preferably by welding).

These are 60 lb a side and just bolt to the body!?! One hit on these and they'll cave the body up since they're more stout than the sheet metal they're attached to. Not going to be pretty.

Not to mention how tight these fit up to the body...natural moisture/salt/grime trap. They should know better in Utah as we use hideous amounts of salt on the roads here.

I could go on...and, yes they should certainly go all the way to the back fender.

I just ordered a custom set of DOM tubular weld on sliders from Armorology in Colorado Springs. Materials ordered now, but produced & installed late August. (Yes, you need to get in line for craftsmanship like this.)

They'll be 48-50 lb. per side. Inner/main tube will be 2" .188 (3/16") wall, and outer will be 1.75" .120 wall. Welded to frame with 2" x 3" box steel mounts. Going to be amazing and worth the wait.

They're also about 50% more though than RSE's, all powdercoated & installed.
I agree, I was surprised they were not bolted to the frame. They don't look very sturdy either.
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