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#1 Old 09-27-2011, 03:18 PM
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42Re to 46RE swap

I've been told that the stock 42RE transmission will not survive behind my planned, newly rebuilt 5.9L V8. I wouldnt think so since the stock motor was the 3.9L V6. Now the question is will the 46RE be able to stand up to the 350-400 flywheel horsepower any better than the 42RE without being rebuilt? Another question: will the 46RE from a 2 wheel drive Ram 1500 bolt into the place of the 42RE in my 4x4 Dakota? I know I can switch out the longer output shaft from the Ram with the shorter one from the Dak, but is the length of the 46RE the same as the 42RE from bellhousing to transfer case? Jeez! Confused? I am. I hope someone can understand my questions and be able to offer solutions. Thanks. First time here.
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#2 Old 09-27-2011, 08:04 PM
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I am certainly confused haha!

I don't think either of the transmissions will withstand that kind of power without modification. For that reason alone I would go with the 46re since it is a way more popular tranny.

I am not sure but I think the bellhousing bolt pattern is the same. It "Should" fit but I have no idea.

Does your truck currently have the 3.9 in it or is it already out of there? You could try and take it easy on the truck and use the stock tranny with the 5.9 while you get the 46re built.

What about your transfer case? I have never had a 4wd dakota so I am not sure what kind of power the Tcase is supposed to handle.

haha good luck. Hopefully someone with experience will chime in and give you some help.

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Well there are a few guys that have done the 3.9-5.2/5.9L swap and they're still running the stock 42RE.

They definitely won't withstand the power for too long, but they'll get you by until you can afford the 46RE and get it built properly.

Good luck! get some more posts so you can put pictures of your build up.


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Does anyone know the actual length, in inches, of the 46RE from the front of the bellhousing to the mounting face against the transfer case? I know the length on my 42RE is close to 27 inches. I'm hoping that the 46RE is a simple bolt-in.
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Ill measure mine for you.

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I had to go to work and Im at school now. Ill try and measure it when I get home.

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Hey Monkyman, I found out the length of the 46RE. It's exactly the same as the 42RE, 27 1/2 inches. Now I wonder what differences, if any, there are between the 42RE and the 46RE, i.e., linkage, hydraulic fluids lines, etc. Is the 46RE body actually built heavier than the 42RE or is the duty rating based soley on the internals? Thanks.
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Pretty sure everything is internal, but don't quote me on that.

I'm sure if you have a local transmission shop you could call and they could answer those questions for you.


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You will need the dust cover, engine to transmission straps and correct torque convertor and flexplate for the 46re. The 5.9 is externally balanced vs the 3.9 internal balance so keep this in mind. (By the time the "re" came along in 96, the weight on a 5.9 shifted from the converter to the flexplate, therefore both items are needed.)

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Thank you, B-300, for that list. Interesting thing, though. When I took out the 3.9 and started to take off the parts I could use on the 5.9, I noticed what looks like a harmonic dampener on the front that looks very similar to the one I took off the 5.9. Sometimes I really wonder about dodge, but I suppose there are little discrepencies in all the auto manufacturers. Thanks again.
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The 3.9 and 5.2 are internally balanced and use the same neutral balanced damper and flexplate/ converter.
The 5.9 is externally balanced and is uses a different damper and flexplate/ converter.
(If it's 96 or newer, it's the converter, earlier and it's the converter that's different.)

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