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  air shocks ( snow plow ) 2500 - Posted: 09-20-2011, 11:03 AM
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Hey,
I just bought a 2008 2500 ram with the 6.7 and i want to put on a western wideout snow plow.. The people from western say its a bad idea due to the weight of the diesel ... If i would of bought the truck with the hemi then everything would be just fine

i really want the plow as it it would greatly help my landscape company grow. So if i put this plow on whats going to go to sh**? Should i be looking into these air shocks? http://www.truckspring.com/suspensio...evel-rite.aspx
Are the factory ball joints going to make it? (dealer already replaced 2 of them)
How about steering?

http://www.truckspring.com/suspensio...w-support.aspx

Any help... anyone

This is the plow
http://www.westernplows.com/wp/showroom/wideout

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 Posted: 09-22-2011, 07:52 AM
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Hey there, I'll post up because I've been plowing for about 10 years now.

First off - Dealers/plow dealers will tell you what they have to tell you due to liability and GVWR of the vehicles. The plow you are looking at is basically the heaviest plow made (with exception of the Blizzard 8610LP), coming in at around 1000 lbs.

The HEMI weighs a good deal less so it can accept heavier plows and stay under the GVWR for the front axle.

Regardless, yes your truck will hold the plow fine. My buddy/plowing partner has a Fisher XLS (Fisher's version of the Wideout, they are all owned by the same company) on his 02Ext Cab Long Bed Chevy 2500HD which is only rated for a 7'6" straight blade. He's had to do some work to handle the weight but he's been holding it fine for 3 years now.

As for the other parts - You can look into Timbrens which are basically large rubber bump stops that don't affect your ride. A lot of guys I know buy SuperCoils and they say the ride is actually better than stock. Another option is just buying 2" spacers. These all won't help save your suspension at all, they'll just keep the plow higher off the ground while driving.

Lastly - Ball Joints, Wheel bearings/hubs will go much sooner. A good aftermarket ball joint will last longer but the wheel bearings suck on these trucks and go pretty quick. IF you want to do this and have less repairs and save money in the long run, I'd invest in some Carli ball joints, and possibly a free spin hub kit. You'll be into it for about $2500 but you'll save gas with the free spin kit and not have to replace your hubs/ball joints again.

Good luck, there is a lot of money to be made when the snow flies!
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 Posted: 09-23-2011, 01:05 PM
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free spin hub kit.. would you have a link for that?
I did buy the plow for $6,323 installed and it will be put on next Friday... but the Carli ball joints are going to be ordered soon.. what do you think about the carli leveling kit?
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 Posted: 09-23-2011, 03:29 PM
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Shock mounts were never designed for carrying weight so don't use air shocks.
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 Posted: 09-23-2011, 08:58 PM
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Freespin kits- http://www.8lugtruckgear.com/Dynatra...-ABS-p233.html

http://www.8lugtruckgear.com/Dynatra...locs-p234.html

BallJoints- http://www.8lugtruckgear.com/Dynatra...odge-p389.html

http://www.8lugtruckgear.com/Carli-E...kage-p551.html


Also, expect accelerated wear on front axle u-joints. If you can't afford the freespin kits, then check this out- http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/show...03#post3819603
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