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#1 Old 08-06-2011, 03:27 PM
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Need help with rear axle: 1500 with 4.10's

Hope I posted this in the right place haha. I'm looking to rebuild/swap my rear end in my 2001 1500 4x4... Not looking to change the ratio, I just need help finding a rear end or rebuild kit for the Chrysler 9.25 with 4.10's. I've been searching craigslist and calling junk yards around the Tri-state area (I live in Jersey) and I haven't found anything besides rebuilt rears for around $1400. I was hoping someone on here could point me in the right direction or chime in with some advice or other options. I thought I found a junk yard rear for around $750 shipped from FL but the guys never got back to me and I can't seem to get a hold of them any more. I'm willing to drive a few hours or pay for shipping if need be.

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Steve,

Welcome to Dodge Talk, can't really help with your problem but someone who can will be along shortly I am sure, may need to move this to the 4x4 section those guys are hard core about their rears....

I am originally from South Jersey myself, moved further south curtesy of Uncle Sam, and won't go back either....

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If you've never rebuilt a rear end then you'll have to find someone who has or bring it to a shop. Since you'll have to be doing that let them track down the rebuild kit (not that its hard, but they know where to look).

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Whats wrong with it that you are even considering replaced the WHOLE houseing/axle??

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Hope I posted this in the right place haha. I'm looking to rebuild/swap my rear end in my 2001 1500 4x4... Not looking to change the ratio, I just need help finding a rear end or rebuild kit for the Chrysler 9.25 with 4.10's. I've been searching craigslist and calling junk yards around the Tri-state area (I live in Jersey) and I haven't found anything besides rebuilt rears for around $1400. I was hoping someone on here could point me in the right direction or chime in with some advice or other options. I thought I found a junk yard rear for around $750 shipped from FL but the guys never got back to me and I can't seem to get a hold of them any more. I'm willing to drive a few hours or pay for shipping if need be.

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Have you checked Ebay? You can also contact the boys at either Yukon Gear or Randy's Ring and Pinion, both are great and have knowledgeable staff that can if anything, point you in the correct direction.

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What is wrong with the rear you have? I Also live in Jersey and there was ram in a junk yard not to far from me. It was a few years age so idk if it is still there.
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The truck has about 190k miles on it. Most are from highway and towing my trailers to atv races. After driving on the highway for a while, the rear end would begin to bind as soon as you came to a stop and started to accelerate. I came home from my campus a few weeks ago and noticed diff fluid all over the back side of my truck. My father and I pulled the diff cover and played with it for a while and we decided to just go for a junk yard rear. The truck just has to get me through 1 more year of college commuting so I can't really justify spending $1500 on a rear..

I have the whole rear end dropped right now in our shop. We have every tool in the book and I'm sure that between my father and I, we could rebuild the rear. He's been rebuilding cars and trucks since he was my age. We just thought it would be easier to take axle off and throw a junk yard rear in. Unfortunately, I can't find anyone with 4.10's. Did dodge have a thing against putting 4.10's in 1500's? Haha.

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I don't think the 4:10 is a stock thing, may have been special ordered that way......

You can take your VIN to the dealership and get the build sheet for the truck that will tell you if it is stock or an upgrade or added after the truck was sold....

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My father and I pulled the diff cover and played with it for a while and we decided to just go for a junk yard rear.
I don't mean to be a dick but from what you've posted i would strongly recommend you find someone who has rebuilt a rearend to do it for you. "played with it for awhile and decided to go the junk yard route"...sounds like you don't even know what the actual problem is

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Rear's aren't easy to do the first time without someone who knows what they're doing. You'll need to measure the preload and make sure the ring gear meshes with the pinion nearly exact. If you get a used axle, do change the fluid in it, and then change it again after 1000 miles!

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Rear's aren't easy to do the first time without someone who knows what they're doing. You'll need to measure the preload and make sure the ring gear meshes with the pinion nearly exact. If you get a used axle, do change the fluid in it, and then change it again after 1000 miles!
I would also recommend pulling the axle shafts and taking a peek at the wheel bearings, best to find out then if they are junk already. Sucks you can't just pull the carrier on those and look at the carrier bearings too, most rearends use shims, these don't so I doubt you have the tools to set the backlash for this rearend.

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I don't mean to be a dick but from what you've posted i would strongly recommend you find someone who has rebuilt a rearend to do it for you. "played with it for awhile and decided to go the junk yard route"...sounds like you don't even know what the actual problem is

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It's cool dude. This is my first time diving into a diff so I'm just in it to learn. Before we even took it apart, my father made the decision to go for a junk yard rear since it would be the easiest route (or so we thought). I pretty much took the entire rear apart just to try and understand and learn everything. Unfortunately, it's hard to learn about car mechanics when you're studying your ass off for summer college credits haha.

The truck needs to get back on the road soon since my fall semester starts Sept 1st so if I can't find a junk yard rear before then, I'll have to opt out for a rebuilt/new rear.
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I can't help you out locally but hit up local 4x4 shops (im sure those are scarce around there...) and next best place would be places that specialize in suspensions (like making leaf springs and driveshafts, they can recommend places too). Any auto shop can rebuild the rearend but its best to find someone who is KNOWN for it.

Another option is hit up on your local 4x4 forum or club, they WILL know someone who will set up the gears for ya, and since you have it that makes it all the easier, you can just drop it off...

Around here I could get it done for under $900 for sure, but thats just including the rebuild kit, not a set of gears if that is needed, which can be had for around $200 a set, look at those links I put up earlier and check those prices with whatever your local find charges you for parts

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4:10s are a rare beast. most people that have them wount give them up. they were equiped in the off road models. a specialty. if they ever hit the J-yards, it would only be for a minute.

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Thanks for all the help so far, guys. After spending countless hours calling junkyards and searching the internet, we decided to throw in the towel. We're calling all the local shops today in hopes of finding a rear assembly for less than $1400.

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I found a few.

Flushing Auto Salvage USA-NY Corona 1-718-672-0700 They want $750 stock #24880

Heres a few more not sure how close you are to these.

Auto Recycling Inc USA-PA(Coplay) 1-610-799-3234 $800

New Castle Auto Wrecking, Inc. USA-PA(New-Castle) 1-800-245-2226 $1200 86,000M

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I found a few.

Flushing Auto Salvage USA-NY Corona 1-718-672-0700 They want $750 stock #24880

Heres a few more not sure how close you are to these.

Auto Recycling Inc USA-PA(Coplay) 1-610-799-3234 $800

New Castle Auto Wrecking, Inc. USA-PA(New-Castle) 1-800-245-2226 $1200 86,000M
Figures!! I bit the bullet two days ago and bought a rebuilt rear end from M&R Motors in Walnutport, PA for $1300. She's all back together and running great. Now if I could only find a set of 34"-35"s to throw underneath it for cheap, I'd be in business haha.

One quick question - I took her out yesterday for a local drive. Everything seems fine except for a slight grinding noise which seems to be coming from the rear end. I think it sounds like the brake shoes rubbing up against the drum, but the noise tends to go away whenever I make left turns. Could it be something else like the gear oil hasn't traveled the length of the axles yet and lubed everything? Maybe I adjusted the drum brakes a little too tight?

Thanks again for everything, guys.
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Add some MOPAR limited slip additive and see if it goes away. One bottle (they're small) should do it.

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I added a limited slip/posi additive that I picked up from Napa. Took her on the highway today and I get a small shaking from 40-60mph. Goes away if I go faster. Gears breaking in?
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I added a limited slip/posi additive that I picked up from Napa. Took her on the highway today and I get a small shaking from 40-60mph. Goes away if I go faster. Gears breaking in?
NO, gears will not cause a shake. Possible that the pinion is bent or not true enough to be vibration free, not much else with the rearend that would cause a vibration. Did you rotate your tires while they were off or are they back where they were before the swap?? I've had a slipped belt on one of my tires and didn't feel a shake if it was on the front, but in the rear she'd shake like a crack whore in rehab.

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Yep, I did. Gonna check it out today. If it's not one thing, it's another. Lol.

At least this gives me a reason to look for some 35's haha.
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