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  Alignment Specs - Posted: 03-17-2011, 03:16 PM
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Hey fellas,

I now have a 03 Quad Cab 2wd Ram.

Truck is equipped with oem 20's and 275-55-20 Kumhos.

I have now visited 2 diff shops, and no one can get rid of my "pull to the right"

Truck has never been in an accident, and has 34k original miles on it.

Visually all components look new.

Checked for brake issues etc, nothing...

Last place literally tried 6 times today.. {waisted my whole damn day on it**

They are even the place the local truck suspension shop sends their trucks to..

Both my 05 1500 and 05 Viper Truck were dead nutz straight from day one, no pull even running 305 50 20's...

Anybody had this prob, and if so, do you have custom alignment specs fixing it?

Thanks in advance...
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 Posted: 03-17-2011, 03:19 PM
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Did they switch the tires from the right to the left side??
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Knock retard limitations by the pcm on a stock tune, it can pull:
15.0 degrees at low RPM's
5.0 degrees at 6000 RPM
9.0 degrees at 4800 RPM's.
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 Posted: 03-17-2011, 03:23 PM
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Oh yeah man..

Side to side, swapped rims, swapped front to rear, u name it.

I am at wits end..

My whole life u know what my biggest pet peeve is in a car?

A pull to either side..

Fortunately I have been able to have it corrected {most of what I drive are Mustangs with fully adj. suspensions, but even when not**

I am I'll about this...

Makes me hate driving it...
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 Posted: 03-17-2011, 03:25 PM
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I have sold vehicles over less...lol
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 Posted: 03-18-2011, 05:47 PM
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Mine does it too but only slightly. My truck seems to be very sensitive to the fact that directional tires (in this case, Parada Spec X 275/55/20) really want to follow the crown of the road. If you actually get the truck on something perfectly flat (which is rare) it will go straight.

I think that alignment shops rely too heavily on the new optical equipment. I suggest you make the alignment guy DRIVE the truck with you in it (so he can't argue his way out of adjusting more on the truck) and then tell him to intentionally put more caster in the left front to get the truck to drive straight.
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 Posted: 03-18-2011, 06:02 PM
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There is a tool needed to align 3G rams and most shops dont have it. Took mine to the dealer, paid less and it rolls straight now. I went though the same stuff you are and finally got tired of it. This is the only thing I can say my dealer has done well.....
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Most techs won't even bother to set caster/camber on the ram's because they can be a pita. I have done a couple myself and has taken me almost 2hrs to do a front end alignment. Toe is simple, but i guarantee your caster is way off. Get a tape measure and with the wheel straight measure from the centercap of your front rim to the centercap of the rear rim . Do it on the other side and you will see your problem. I don't know the specs off hand but i can try and find them... Do you have a printout of your alignment?
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http://www.streetfire.net/video/6500...ift_740132.htm
My 6500rpm superchip shift 0 to 60mph video

Knock retard limitations by the pcm on a stock tune, it can pull:
15.0 degrees at low RPM's
5.0 degrees at 6000 RPM
9.0 degrees at 4800 RPM's.
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 Posted: 03-19-2011, 07:49 PM
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Here's the specs for your truck.

VEHICLE 1500 4X2
WHEEL BASE 120.5 in
CASTER (4.0 Min, +.75 Max)
4.0
CAMBER ( .50)
.0
TOTAL TOE-IN ( .10)
.10
MAX RT/LT DIFFERENCE 4X2 1500
CASTER
.40
CAMBER
.50
TOTAL TOE-IN
0.06

THRUST ANGLE 0
0.4


Tires, brakes, alignment. Sounds like you've done it. If the shops are maxing out the adjustments to get it into spec, maybe bushings or something is bent.
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 Posted: 03-23-2011, 04:31 AM
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It blows my mind that alignment shops have suck a hard time aligning these trucks...I aligned my Ram with a tape measure and a angle finder...could drive it 85mph 2 inches off the ground and I'd drive straight as an arrow. If they say it can't be aligned...their lazy!!
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It blows my mind that alignment shops have suck a hard time aligning these trucks...I aligned my Ram with a tape measure and a angle finder...could drive it 85mph 2 inches off the ground and I'd drive straight as an arrow. If they say it can't be aligned...their lazy!!
I agree. I get so many trucks in from local alignment shops that people say its been aligned and still doesn't drive straight, yet the previous techs (using the term loosely) never set caster. Lazy
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 Posted: 08-20-2011, 05:12 PM
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I am having this problem now on a 2007 2wd with 80k miles, I've had it aligned twice since replacing the tires less than 10k miles, Second time being earlier today and at this point both shops cant get rid of the pulling. second shop basically saying im crazy and thats the best its going to get. I plan on taking it to the dealer Monday. I hope it can get fixed, really frustrated at how its driving now.
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 Posted: 08-20-2011, 07:04 PM
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I'm an alignment tech and the first 3rd gens with the upper slotted arms suck, but it's not that bad, they're way better than the old rams and Dakota, although the 06 and newer is s much easier to align. Did any of these shops give you an alignment print out of what the before and after was? Many places it's green=go, they don't understand how to read pulls in camber and caster. I know my truck has a caster pull left built into the spec to make the truck drive straight, put it on the rack at work and the camber caster pulls were dead center and the truck still pulls like crazy to the right. I'm pretty sure it's my tires as it came with SRAs and they're all different depths and worn poorly from the previous owner.
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