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#1 Old 08-02-2010, 11:10 AM
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30K Mile "Tune Up"

SO. I went to get my oil changed the other day. I take it to the dealer b/c believe it or not they are the cheapest place around here for oil changes (when I dont have time to do it myself)

Anyway.. So the lady starts right in on me. You need the 30K mile tune up.

Whats that I ask?

Well its blah blah blah blah about $700. Plus you need new spark plugs (they have to be replaced at 30K on hemi's) thats about $250.

I told her, so you expect me to walk in here asking for a $29.95 oil change to just up and blow $1000 on a "tune up"

WTH. Just give me by dern oil change and let me go.



Anyway. Point of all this? How many of you actually let them do this, or have gone down the list and done it all yourself? How much of it is REALLY NEEDED at 30K miles?

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when i changed my plugs at 32k they were pretty burnt up an as soon as i did i felt a small difference while driving her but i only spent about $60 bucks with labor


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Ok thanks. You must have done them yourself?

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No a local shop did it for $40 and the mechanic who did was a chrysler tech for like 15yrs


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dude
change em yourself
changing a spark plug is as hard as filling up with gas
do your oil yourself
do the entire tune up yourself

all you need is a standard and metric socket set, and a spark plug socket
it's a cake walk, don't waste your money paying some schmuck to do it

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I never have, never will TRUST me.... I've put plugs & wires in all the other trucks I've owned, as well as all other maintenance (starters, alternators, plugs/wires, distributors, coils, u-joints, front end locking nuts on that stupid ford.. and the list goes on). That's not really what I'm asking.. What I'm asking is, how much of it is REALLY neccissary, that I should actually do @ 30K miles... The only reason I let them change my oil this time is b/c I was a little past due and needed it done and had Zero time this weekend to do it myself.

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30k miles is the life of tranny fluid and diff fluid typically
as well as plugs
i'd def change that out (you don't have to, over half the folks on the road don't for the life of their vehicle) but that's why it's called preventative maintenance. do it BEFORE it's a problem!

coolant is usually 50k miles

my rule of thumb, in 30k mile intervals, if there's a drain plug, pull it, if there's a pan, pull it
if there's a plug, or a valve, or anything easy enough to change, change it
you'll thank yourself in the long run

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SO. I went to get my oil changed the other day. I take it to the dealer b/c believe it or not they are the cheapest place around here for oil changes (when I dont have time to do it myself)

Anyway.. So the lady starts right in on me. You need the 30K mile tune up.

Whats that I ask?

Well its blah blah blah blah about $700. Plus you need new spark plugs (they have to be replaced at 30K on hemi's) thats about $250.

I told her, so you expect me to walk in here asking for a $29.95 oil change to just up and blow $1000 on a "tune up"

WTH. Just give me by dern oil change and let me go.



Anyway. Point of all this? How many of you actually let them do this, or have gone down the list and done it all yourself? How much of it is REALLY NEEDED at 30K miles?
At 30K on an 08, for the scheduled maintenance recommended by Chrysler/most dealers, you would be looking at...

Change oil & filter
Change air filter
Differential service
Transmission fluid and filter service( or a flush - actually it is about the same cost for both )
Transfer case service( 4WD )
Replace spark plugs( 5.7L )

* Chrysler actually says 60K for the trans service but most dealers recommend 30K so I am pretty sure that $700 included that. 30K is a pretty good idea on these trannies actually.

All of that can easily add up to $700 at a dealer for a 4WD vehicle BUT to then say an extra $250 to do the plugs is WAY too high. If she was saying it is $700 because the plug change runs $250 I would say that seems fair. In addition to however is way too expensive. There is just no way at 30K you need $700 worth of scheduled maintenance that does not include the cost of doing the plugs. If you have a 2WD it is even more ridiculous.

I actually have an 08 w/ 5.7L as well and mine is 4WD. At my dealer I would be looking at the following for a 30K service...

Change oil & filter = $21.95
Change air filter = $32.99
Differential service = $129.99( 4WD )
Transmission fluid and filter service( or a flush ) = $149.99( flush )
Transfer case service = $79.99
Replace spark plugs( 5.7L ) = $225.00

Total = $639.91

So as you can see a legit 30K service could run $700. $700 without the plug swap though is very unreasonable. Just not enough things that require scheduled maintenance at 30K for it to be that high. Even if they added a 4 wheel alignment( I have seen some places do that for the 30K )that is only $100 +/-.

I would like to see a list of exactly what they wanted you to do and the total cost.

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I didnt grab the list she had laying there, but if memory serves me correctly the $680 covered all fluids being drained/flushed and replaced. That was pretty much it. Spark plugs were not on that list. They were an additional $200+

It must just be something w/ these hemi's. Or dodges in general. I never replaced plugs until around 80K miles on my other trucks. Didnt do any of that other crap either, except for regular oil/filter changes and an occasional radiator fluid change. Put near 200K miles on both of them w/o any problems. Though, they were Fords.... I tell you, if I had known all this up front, I probably would not have bought this truck. At this rate, This means I'll be putting new plugs in my truck every 2 years or less. Thats rediculous.

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Well FWIW, I changed the plugs in my Mustang at 30K miles. They were still working, but they were far from ideal. I think you'll have the same result with your Ram. It's not that you're going to be getting misfires or anything at 30K. It's more an issue of getting peak performance and fuel economy by changing them. The make of the car has nothing to do with the life of the plugs. The plug has no idea what kind of car/truck it's in. It's a wearable part and needs to be maintained/replaced with use.

Also to answer your question. Really the things that NEED to be done. Technically nothing if it's not giving you a problem. What is the general recommendation? For me, I'd change the plugs, change the air filter (or clean it if you've got an aftermarket one that can be cleaned). Keep up on your regular maintenance with your oil, and tire rotation/inflation. The truck won't stop running if you don't do this stuff, but it will help to prevent problems in the future, and more importantly save you fuel every day you drive it.

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Thanks Shots. Thats more along the lines of what I was looking for. I keep up with basic maintenance, oil changes, tire rotations, air filter, etc... I guess I need to start finding some plugs then. what are they now, about $5 a plug or more? Been a few years since I've put plugs in anything other than my 4wheeler.

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Champion coppers for the HEMIs are cheap. I think like $2 a piece. You'll need 16.

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Cheap Price, decent quality product? Or Cheap all the way around?

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Plugs can often go 50K. When I changed the ones in my C at 49K, the gaps were in the 50 thousandths range. My Ram didn't get a plug change 'til 86K. They looked pretty bad.

NGK 5306s will run $1.80-$2 each.

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Honestly I don't remember what plugs I used last. It's been a while since I've done any. I guess my car and truck are probably both due now that you mention it. LOL

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