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Question Rear Brakes - Star wheel, self adjuster

It seems that the rear brake drum will NOT come off since the shoes are great in adjustment position.

Here's my question.

So, what direction do I need to turn the start wheel for brake drum removal via the slot in the drum backing plate from the backside?

Is it up or is it down?


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For our vans it is "down". The adjuster moves "up" to adjust the brakes.

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For our vans it is "down". The adjuster moves "up" to adjust the brakes.
So, if I move the tool down and the adjuster moves up, the brake pads will move closer to each other and i can finally get the drum off?

Is there any other tool needed to pull the drum off as well?


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So, if I move the tool down and the adjuster moves up, the brake pads will move closer to each other and i can finally get the drum off?

Is there any other tool needed to pull the drum off as well?
The inside of the star wheel (the differential side) has to move down. This holds true for either side. So in looking at the star wheel from the back bumper of the van, the driver's side turns clockwise to retract the brake shoes and the passenger side turns counterclockwise to retract the brake shoes.

The only other tool you will need is a long thin screwdriver to push the adjuster arm away from the star wheel. If you don't push the arm away it is very difficult to turn the star wheel in the loosening direction.
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Here's a drawing of the passenger side brake assembly. It should help you to visualize where the star wheel adjusting arm is.

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Interesting for my diagrams and my brakes on my van the adjuster turns up (from the drum side) to tighten the shoes. Wonder what year Dodge updated the system.

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Interesting for my diagrams and my brakes on my van the adjuster turns up (from the drum side) to tighten the shoes.
You just have to be different...don't you!

But seriously you are correct, I screwed up but mixing up Chrysler and GM drum brakes. So do the complete opposite of what I wrote above.

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Found this link to a 1999 Ram Van rear drum "How To" It seems easy enough.

http://www.freeautomechanic.com/brake-drum-brakes.html

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Well, the passenger side star wheel from the slot rotates upward to get loose. Just did that tonight.

I had a 3-lbs hand sledge hammer that took a while to break the drum free from the studs. The shoes were no help being tight either. When I got the drum off of the hub face, I could then stick in a flat crow bar and pry a little all around that inner hole that faces the wheel side.

The eHow was a great help on how to whack the drum to make it free.

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Well, the passenger side star wheel from the slot rotates upward to get loose.
The driver side will as well.

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The driver side will as well.
Well, I found a trick to get the latch off of the star wheel. All you do is punch it hard and away from the start wheel via the access slot. Now you can turn the wheel either way freely.

When you are ready to put things all back together, fix the latch to contact the star wheel again and then put the drum back on.

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