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  Difference between 1500 & 2500 - Posted: 09-11-2009, 07:24 PM
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Does anyone have a handy, concise list of the drivetrain and suspension differences between the 1500 and the 2500? I've got a 1500 Quadcab Longbed, and every time I talk to someone about towing, they all seem to think my little truck can't pull much trailer......I've noticed a sway bar under the axle of some 2500s, but there must be more than that.

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MUCH heavier frame, stiffer leafs in the back and stiffer coils in the front(especially on the diesels), much bigger axles, and all kinds of other random stuff i'm sure, they ain't too different though, as you can use the majority of the aftermarket suspension from the 2500's on the 1500's...

hope that helps...
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Interesting that they'd have a different frame...I figured the suspension was different, and maybe the axles/diff, and maybe even trans.
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yeah, trans too, forgot that......

engines of course are too, you can't get the V10 or diesel in the 1500's...
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Right. I have the 318, but figured when that went, I'd replace it with the 360, and the computer. Same for the tranny, when it goes it'll get replaced with a beefier unit so I can tow a toy hauler to the track for my sport bikes....
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the problem with the 1500 and towing is yes you can pull a bigger load the issue is stopping it the 1500 has smaller brakes than the 2500
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A 1500 is a light duty truck. If you plan on doing a lot of towing of something as heavy as a toyhauler, then a 2500 or better is really a better choice. Not only will it tow more easily, but things will last longer. The tranny on the 1500 is already suspect in normal driving and the Dana 44 is no match for the Dana 60/70 combo on my 2500. Not only does my 2500 have a beefier suspension, frame and drivetrain, but it has things like a high-output alternator, tranny cooler, a larger radiator and larger/better brakes...all things aimed at more trouble free towing. And the suspensions aren't the same, CJ. The 2500 rear springs are a 1/2" wider than the 1500 and are not interchangeable. The front coils on my truck are massive, as well, and when put on a 1500 will actually give almost 2" of lift to it.

I have lots of friends that tow toyhaulers with 1/2 ton trucks and many pay for it in reduced reliability, higher repair costs and the need to replace them sooner rather than later.
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good points there man.....

hell, it wouldn't be that hard to weld on the wider bracket on the rear axle if you really wanted a Carli or Thuren suspension on a 1500.....
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good points there man.....

hell, it wouldn't be that hard to weld on the wider bracket on the rear axle if you really wanted a Carli or Thuren suspension on a 1500.....
You'd still be stuck with those wimpy 1500 axles.
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You'd still be stuck with those wimpy 1500 axles.
true true, and, the wimpy gasser motors.....
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  This 1500 gets the job done! - Posted: 09-12-2009, 12:35 AM
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Still waiting for my wimpy gasser 1500 to die, so I can get a oil burner. Just took it from MN to FL in August to pickup my latest 6700lb resto project. (Yes, the trailer has brakes!) Works good for my weekend tow machine.
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NICE FARMALL!!!!!

if it's that heavy, i'm bettin it's a C right??? i towed my A w/ my truck a while back....

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all together maybe 3500 or so pounds.....
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Hmmmm.....I've got a heavy-duty. 136-amp alternator on it, have added a deep cycle battery & isolator, and was planning on replacing the axle and diff when they went with heavier-duty units as well....but I'm concerned now about the brakes and frame....

Dragged a 65 Corvair on a large car trailer over Ortega Hwy out here with my ex-wife's 1500, 360, with no other mods, and it didn't even act like it knew the load was there, but then that was only once.....Then again, I don't get to the track but about 3 or 4 times a year, if I'm lucky....

DON'T WANNA BUY ANOTHER TRUCK, I LIKE THIS ONE, DAMMMIT!!!!

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its not that you need to buy a new truck we just want you to be aware of the limits so you stay safe and ill be the first to admit i have overloaded my truck i have also overloaded 3/4 and 1 ton trucks as well
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thanks for that. I'm not too worried about the frame, but it sounds like I'll have to do some serious modding to bring the wee beastie up to spec. Good to know about the brakes, go is good, stop is better All the machanicals can be done, and will be done, as the original parts wear out and fail, but the brakes will have to be upgraded before I try towing anything heavier than a two-rail trailer. Good excuse to go see the nice folks over at Brembo.....

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well, if you can find a junked 01 or 02(four wheel disc brakes...), and, either swap the axles or just the brakes themselves onto your rig, you would be good, just be sure to put the hydroboost steering/braking system on your truck too.....
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Sounds like a plan. Might get the leafs that way, too, and I know a good suspension shop that can weld on the right bracketry for them.

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you'd have a 2000 series truck(kinda half way between 1500 and 2500) then...
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It's a basket case Farmall MV... Been looking for a while to find one! It will take a while to get it restored like this one (not mine)

Looks like you have a nice Farmall A there, I bet that diesel doesn't even know it's back there... Do you have any others?
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nope, this is my only one, it's un restored, just looks good cause it's been painted a few times, and used all its life, will crank up on the first crank(been converted to 12 volt system w/ an old chevy alt and starter, but, the starter decided to break on my after i bought it from my uncle...)

it's a damn good tractor, i used it at my grandparent's house after Hurricane Ike to remove debris and what not from their yard.....

my motor may not have felt the load, but, by god the rest of the truck did, it was all i could do to keep the truck trackin strait...
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