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#1 Old 02-15-2008, 10:20 PM
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governor pressure sensor?

I have a 2000 ram van 1500. recently it started to shift crazy. it wont shift from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd at normal acceleration unless i rev high and abruptly let off the gas. after that shifts fine. will shift fine every time at very slow acceleration. check engine light came on and when i had it checked out i was told it was a governor pressure sensor i think. pretty much gathered i need to 1) pay for rebuild or 2) buy barely used and pay to have installed. anyone have a suggestion? also would it be relatively safe to drive it for a while? if so is there a product i can use as a band-aid?
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#2 Old 02-15-2008, 11:41 PM
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Is it skipping 2nd gear, slipping if you accelerate but shifting from 1st ,skipping 2nd ,shifting to 3rd at low throttle? If this what is happening the kickdown strut has fallen out and will jam the internal linkage eventually so it doesn't go into park. Repairing this requires removal of the valvebody from the transmission.
Note: This should be posted in the B-series van sub-forum.

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The governor pressure sensor and solenoid are electric parts that a good shop should be able to change out for WAY less than a rebuild or used trans cost. I am going to put a shift kit in my trans soon and will replace them at the same time. I am definitely not a transmission mechanic, but I will do this job. Much more knowlegable folks than me will be along soon to talk more about this I am sure. If you search I bet you will find a thread with pics where someone walked someone else through this procedure.
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no gears are slipping. it shifts all gears. when it shifts from 3rd to 4th its fine every time but then it shifts to o/d right away. sometimes it wont shift down to 1st when i stop but it does shift all gears and never skips. i was told by the mechanic that the sensor is inside the trans. so it has to be cracked open to replace. theres not many places to go anymore where a mechanic will tell you the whole truth about whats going on unless you know them, at least not here in florida. anyways thanks for replying i appreciate everyones help!!!!
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Gps

Having the same problem with mine, same code and everything... Changed filter and ATF+4, code gone, no problem shifting anymore, also had to spray the heck out of the TV cable assembly on drivers side. Shifting like a champ now though... Dirty fluid can cause the same issue as it lowers the pressure to the sensor... Good luck eh?



Oh yea, a GPS sensor is $60, right from the dealer, $50 online. The ATF4 is almost as much...

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You wouldn't happen to have a pic of the bands with the little triangular things that move around would you???


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This is the 2nd gear... (???) Found this in the bottom of my tranny pan when doing trans service on it... I was wondering if you had the pic of the assembly for that whole set of bands...???

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Odd

have you ever seen one of those just fall out??? Would that be from the bands loosening up??? I was thinking about putting it back int, but then he told me about removing a rod with an E-clip on it and that it was a pain to get back in and doing it when in park was a pain sometimes... Sooooo, I decided to take it to the dealership. He did say it was kind of common, you see alot of these eh?



Also, when something like this happens, does it mean in actuality that the tranny is on it's last leg??? It seems to shift strong in all other gears...

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Yup! I think it is from the bands being adjusted too loose from the factory.

You don't have to remove an e clip,just drop the valve body. You remove the whole VB/park rod together,you just have to rotate the rear wheels for it to come out,and leave the wheels (driveshaft) in that same spot to put it back.
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hmmm

maybe I shall try it... Doesn't really look too too bad. I am concerned with tightening the bands though. Is 70in/lbs then back off 2 turns correct?? The park rod snap ring was what he was speaking of... That's what made me nervous about doing the job myself... I've rebuilt my manual Jeep tranny, but have never touched an auto... Hence why I'm super nervous about screwing it up... I could save about $300 doing it myself though.

what's that part called??

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I would back off 1 1/2 turns.

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Tighteners

On the 2nd gen trannys, are there 2 places to tighten bands??? Front and rear, or just the front one???

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so is 70inch/lbs correct? And is it the same for both front and rear band adjustments??? Dude, I really appreciate all these diagrams. I did a search and didn't come up with the pics I was looking for... The park rod one is better than the factory IPL he showed me... Thanks again for all your help eh? When I come to MO for training I'll buy you a brewski my brotha...

eh?

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Tighten to 72 in/lbs. on both
Front back off 1 1/2 turns,
Rear band back off 2 1/2 -3 turns.

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Oh and by the way,this 2nd accumulator piston and spring WILL fall out when you get the VB coming down. Grease it back up in place with some wheel bearing grease set the spring on the VB as you go up with it.



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Nice

That's probably the best illustration yet... Thanks a bunch dude. I assume to be VERY careful not to let any of the grease get into the pan with the tranny fluid or that'd be bad eh?


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