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Steering Box - Standard Rotation or Reverse Rotation?

well, i got a new steering box for my truck... not thinking anything of it.... put it on... start turning left, and im going right.... so, take it back and its a standard rotation (or suppose to have been)...

does my truck need a reverse rotation?

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anyone?

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Yes you need reverse rotation. The great Gods of Engneering designed it this way. Was the part packaged incorrectly? You should be sent to bed without your supper for not researching this before you leaped.
Here's a pic that I modified for us Mopar fans.
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So do the 2WD's and 4WD's use the same box, just 2WD's are 'standard' rotation and the 4WD are 'reverse'?

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ya... please explain what the standard is even used for chump if we need the reverse?

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So do the 2WD's and 4WD's use the same box, just 2WD's are 'standard' rotation and the 4WD are 'reverse'?
well, after doing some more research... that's the only conclusion i can make.

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well... to anyone needing a reverse rotation steering box, i found a guy sitting on some for a great price!

Napa gets them for about 215... and kragens website has them for around 170, but they are out of stock... this site can get them to you for under 140 shipped... and it is the same cardone product.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...002146900&rd=1

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well, after doing some more research... that's the only conclusion i can make.
Yeah, I'd like to find out for sure .... What I want to do, is get rid of my PS altogether and put in a manual box... I just don't know what to get...

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Yeah, I'd like to find out for sure .... What I want to do, is get rid of my PS altogether and put in a manual box... I just don't know what to get...
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Why would you take the power steering off a 4wd used in the dirt?
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Eh, I've just never liked PS.... In fact, every Mopar I've ever owned, if there was an option, I took it out

Less junk under the hood... I'm kinda' a fan of 'engine and nuthin' else'

Would allow me to run dual belts on my alt.

Dirt roads aren't really a prob (Some might say that manual steering lets you 'feel' the road better) ... I'm not running any Baja 500's or anything, just going up some seldom used fire/logging roads to where the elk are at

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With Man. steering you'll have a slower ratio,harder to turn at low speed,and you'll surely have more road feel,drop one wheel off in a rut and the steering wheel will tear your thumbs off.Don't ask how I know this.
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With Man. steering you'll have a slower ratio,harder to turn at low speed,and you'll surely have more road feel,drop one wheel off in a rut and the steering wheel will tear your thumbs off.Don't ask how I know this.
Heh heh heh .... I know you're trying real hard to talk me out of it..

But I'm an old guy set in my ways..

Besides, who really needs thumbs?

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iam with u on this one ,power steering wears tires far quicker than manual,bin driven dodge 50 6600kgs gross getting three yrs from them yoko tires by the way when u swap to a manuel steering beherder send them old power bits my way
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iam with u on this one ,power steering wears tires far quicker than manual,bin driven dodge 50 6600kgs gross getting three yrs from them yoko tires by the way when u swap to a manuel steering beherder send them old power bits my way
I'm kinda' hoping I can sneak the PS unit back in the box for my core charge with nobody noticing...

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I am SO confused now. 1st of all, Bherder is NOT that OLD and are the boxes for the 2 wh and 4 wh drives different !!
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I am SO confused now. 1st of all, Bherder is NOT that OLD

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and are the boxes for the 2 wh and 4 wh drives different !!

That's what I wanna know!

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Here are some part numbers from Lares Corp which is a large rebuilder of steering boxes.
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the 2wd boxes and 4wd boxes mount differently...

4wd = reverse rotation...
2wd = standard rotation...

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you will need to develop the ams of a gorilla with manual steering; at road speed not a problem but parallel parking will cause a sweat to appear on your forehead
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you will need to develop the ams of a gorilla with manual steering; at road speed not a problem but parallel parking will cause a sweat to appear on your forehead
I haven't had to parallel park in ... Oh 30 years, and my wife at times accuses me of being some sort of primate ... So I guess I'm good to go!

Hey, you can look at it this way.. If your wife or doctors says 'you need to get some more exercise' you just go drive your truck for an hour!

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