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  Why do the hemi's have 2 spark plugs per cylinder - Posted: 06-23-2007, 09:56 PM
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Why do the hemi's have 2 spark plugs per cylinder?

we bought bosch platinum 4


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only one plug fires on compresion stroke, on the other side of motor at the same time a plug is fireing on the exhuast stroke for beter emisions, totaly useless. when i have the money iam going with the 6.1 coil pack so both plugs fire on compresion stroke at the same time.
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Why do the hemi's have 2 spark plugs per cylinder?

we bought bosch platinum 4


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It's the only way they could get the Hemis to pass emisions, and they just barely pass at that.

Also I've never been a big fan of the +4 plugs. All those electrodes kinda hide the spark and in many vehicles there is actually a loss in HP when you use them. In my VW they ran so bad they'd throw codes and cause the engine to stumble and hesitate. You should try to get some feed back on how they run in these trucks before you drop them in.
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Return the Bosch plugs and get some NGK's.Bosch made my 4.7L run like shizz.NGK's just idle nicer and the truck feels alot better.
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Return the Bosch plugs and get some NGK's.Bosch made my 4.7L run like shizz.NGK's just idle nicer and the truck feels alot better.
Agreed My NGKs are still doing good after 30k miles
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I don't understand the split fire and +4 plugs. Your only gonna get one spark, it will take the path of least resistance.
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only one plug fires on compresion stroke, on the other side of motor at the same time a plug is fireing on the exhuast stroke for beter emisions, totaly useless. when i have the money iam going with the 6.1 coil pack so both plugs fire on compresion stroke at the same time.
I always wondered what that was all about, kinda sucks.... thought it seemed odd the way to was wired but didn't think about emissions...

Anything else have to be replaced to use the 6.1 coil pack other then the wires? Seems like a good thing to do...
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The shorty wires are cheaper!
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search threads,, says shorty wiers adds stress to stock coil and can loose a couple of horse's... go with coil pack upgrade for best performance gain.
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Why would it add stress to the coil? It is firing two at the same time all the time, so where is the stress if both plugs are in the same cylinder?
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I like NGK's. ill keep them in mind next time. I use them in my dirt bike.


As far as the Bosch goes, i am happy so far. I think it runs better and it gets 1-2 mpg better..... even towing. we towed a big trencher around yesterday and it got 11.4 mpg compard to stock plugs at 10.2 mpg.
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when the spark plug's fire under exstream presure, they actully losse some of there power, thats why race cars and 1000hp dragsters use such exstream ignition and coil set ups. the stock coils just dont have enough umph to give the hotest spark, thats why the 6.1 and the crate motors have a biger coil pack. the more compresion and fuel, the more spark power is needed. like i said, shorty wire loose power, granted its not much lose but its a lose. unless your going to run nitrues then the lose is a good thing.
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only one plug fires on compresion stroke, on the other side of motor at the same time a plug is fireing on the exhuast stroke for beter emisions, totaly useless. when i have the money iam going with the 6.1 coil pack so both plugs fire on compresion stroke at the same time.

Idk man im not sure thats true at all im looking at the part numbers for a 5.7 coil pack and there the same as the 6.1 coil packs. im gonna look into it more but idk i dont think its true i wanna say the 6.1 also fires in the exhaust.
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i think its the magnums or charger that have the coil pack, not sure which car it is, all i know is ive been into drag racing since the big daddy don garlits days, biger coil=more spark=more power.
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i think its the magnums or charger that have the coil pack, not sure which car it is, all i know is ive been into drag racing since the big daddy don garlits days, biger coil=more spark=more power.
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the magnum 300 and charger. are all Lx cars thay all use the same coils wether 6.1 or 5.7 thay have the same part numbers as well thay also share the same coils with the 06 and up rams and jeep grand cherokees. this is what i am getting from the diamler chrysler website for us techs.
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Hemiwoods from Virtual.Dodge has the 6.1 coils on his truck. Some pics as he installed, tied them in and then wrapped them.

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what year was his truck the only reason i can see doing this is if you got the older hemi ware u have the plug wires aslo. cuz i know from 06 and up its the same coils for all. i got no plus wires on mine and i got the saem part numbers as the 6.1
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04 I think. I believe its more to do with the fact that he was running nitrous. You need to have oem wires, Taylor or other long wires or coil packs to properly run nitrous. The shorty wires cause problems with nitrous, they blow the wires right off.

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for 1 my hemi passes the sniffer(barely) with no cats so they don't just barely pass emissions from the factory.

Edit: see next post for 6.1 coil info
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