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01_OffRoad
 
  Tuff Country arms - Posted: 05-11-2006, 12:39 AM
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Before you start flamming..... I'm not looking for the whole Tuff Country kit. I'm only CONSIDERING thier control arms. Do the control arms have the same reputation as the rest of thier kits do? And why does everyone hate Tuff Country on our trucks anyway?
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 Posted: 05-11-2006, 12:07 PM
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I've never heard anyone have major conplaints about tuffcountry suspensions for our trucks. The only really bad thing about them is the 5" spacer and 5"block. I thought about using there control arms but bought some skyjacker's used for a good price. They would be fine for you. Afew people on PS.COM are using them without issue.
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 Posted: 05-11-2006, 04:11 PM
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I think it was primarily the Dakota and Durrango crowd that was complaining about the poor quality of the Tuff Country IFS kits.
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ENGINE / DRIVETRAIN MODS:
5.9L V8 | Pure Evil" Transmission by Dr. Evil Performance Transmissions | Hughes Engine Plenum Gasket reinforcement kit | Air Hog Drop in filter | No Muffler | 180 Thermostat | Dana 60 front, 5.38's | GM 14 bolt rear, disk brakes, 5.38's, Detroit Locker | Dakota Digital SGI-5 converter box

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13" of total lift | Thuren Trac Bar | Rough Country 5" X-Series Lift Kit (removed)| 3" Top Gun Customz coil spring spacer | 3" Body Lift | Rough Country Hydro 8000 shocks | 41x14.50R17 Super Swamper Radial IROK | 17X9 Moto's |Top Gun Customz Dual Shock kit | 7" SkyJacker coils | Custom (very) long arms | Shackle flip + factory block in the rear

OTHER GOODIES / MODS:
Optima Red Top | Pioneer 6x9's and 5 1/4's | HD Radio / CD player| "C5 Corvette" style seats | 4 point harness system | 136 Amp Alternator | Thuren Cross Over Steering Conversion | Rock Lights
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 Posted: 05-11-2006, 04:48 PM
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Yeah, I have heard that. I think the 94-01 ram suspensions are considered pretty good for a daily driven truck.
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 Posted: 05-11-2006, 04:54 PM
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I have a daily drivien trail rig but would not even consider a 5" spacer. all it is is tire clearance nothing more nothing less. it will not have any better flex than stock at all. so its just for the tires you dont need flex muddin but when it comes to rock crawlin. no flex expect to flop! but thats my .02
other than that for a mall crawler... y not? its cheap and it will look good.
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 Posted: 05-11-2006, 05:58 PM
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I have a daily drivien trail rig but would not even consider a 5" spacer. all it is is tire clearance nothing more nothing less. it will not have any better flex than stock at all. so its just for the tires you dont need flex muddin but when it comes to rock crawlin. no flex expect to flop! but thats my .02
other than that for a mall crawler... y not? its cheap and it will look good.
Maybe you missread, or I mis-spoke somewhere... I'm not looking at the spacers.... 3" is the limit for me on the spacers (I may even wind up putting in 5" coils before too long). What I am looking at is the control arms.

There's not a tremendous amount of flex in our trucks, just by design. That being said, I think poly at both ends of the control arms will suffice for about 90% of what I'm going to be running into on the trails.

On the flip side of that, there's this: I run with Jeeps. They're already smaller, more agile, and more flexible than what I am. I'm not into body damage, so half the trails they go on, I won't even consider. What I don't have in flex, I can usually make up for in sheer power or ground clearance. A little extra flex would be nice, but it's not mandatory.
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ENGINE / DRIVETRAIN MODS:
5.9L V8 | Pure Evil" Transmission by Dr. Evil Performance Transmissions | Hughes Engine Plenum Gasket reinforcement kit | Air Hog Drop in filter | No Muffler | 180 Thermostat | Dana 60 front, 5.38's | GM 14 bolt rear, disk brakes, 5.38's, Detroit Locker | Dakota Digital SGI-5 converter box

SUSPENSION MODS:
13" of total lift | Thuren Trac Bar | Rough Country 5" X-Series Lift Kit (removed)| 3" Top Gun Customz coil spring spacer | 3" Body Lift | Rough Country Hydro 8000 shocks | 41x14.50R17 Super Swamper Radial IROK | 17X9 Moto's |Top Gun Customz Dual Shock kit | 7" SkyJacker coils | Custom (very) long arms | Shackle flip + factory block in the rear

OTHER GOODIES / MODS:
Optima Red Top | Pioneer 6x9's and 5 1/4's | HD Radio / CD player| "C5 Corvette" style seats | 4 point harness system | 136 Amp Alternator | Thuren Cross Over Steering Conversion | Rock Lights
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 Posted: 05-12-2006, 06:53 PM
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Here's the latest. Tuff Country arms are $250 + shipping. Here's a few pics of some custom units that a guy I wheel with can custom make me for about $80 each (that's about $320 for the set). With these custom units, the guy can custom cut any design I want to into the control arm.... What'cha think?




The second one is (obviously) my PhotoChop work, but you should get the idea. He also mentioned that he will be using poly at both ends on my arms (these arm's were ment for a Jeep TJ). The Tuff Country units have poly at both ends too.

I'm leaning towards the custom units, even if he doesn't do a flex joint at one end. Powder coat them white, or red, and call it good. Thoughts on the color (truck's white, brake parts are red, black wheels)?
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ENGINE / DRIVETRAIN MODS:
5.9L V8 | Pure Evil" Transmission by Dr. Evil Performance Transmissions | Hughes Engine Plenum Gasket reinforcement kit | Air Hog Drop in filter | No Muffler | 180 Thermostat | Dana 60 front, 5.38's | GM 14 bolt rear, disk brakes, 5.38's, Detroit Locker | Dakota Digital SGI-5 converter box

SUSPENSION MODS:
13" of total lift | Thuren Trac Bar | Rough Country 5" X-Series Lift Kit (removed)| 3" Top Gun Customz coil spring spacer | 3" Body Lift | Rough Country Hydro 8000 shocks | 41x14.50R17 Super Swamper Radial IROK | 17X9 Moto's |Top Gun Customz Dual Shock kit | 7" SkyJacker coils | Custom (very) long arms | Shackle flip + factory block in the rear

OTHER GOODIES / MODS:
Optima Red Top | Pioneer 6x9's and 5 1/4's | HD Radio / CD player| "C5 Corvette" style seats | 4 point harness system | 136 Amp Alternator | Thuren Cross Over Steering Conversion | Rock Lights
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 Posted: 05-19-2006, 06:40 PM
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So today at school my teacher said i can have enough steel so i can build some arms for my ram. so I have the off-road ram with the 2 inch space. so what kinda lift would that be 4 inchs? so i need arms for a 4 inch lift casue i am gonna try and get some specs and see if i can start fabbing them up...
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 Posted: 05-20-2006, 06:29 AM
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So today at school my teacher said i can have enough steel so i can build some arms for my ram. so I have the off-road ram with the 2 inch space. so what kinda lift would that be 4 inchs? so i need arms for a 4 inch lift casue i am gonna try and get some specs and see if i can start fabbing them up...
How many miles are on your truck? I'm sure your springs are pretty tired. I know mine are. I've got 114,000(ish). I was under the impression that our springs were 2" taller than the 'stock' rams. But I'm really scratching my head here.... I've got a 3" spacer on top of my springs, plus a 3" body lift - I thought I would have room for 38's.... and my 37's are rubbing.

With all that said, most of the aftermarket company's that make lifts for our trucks say that "trucks with the "Off Road" package will receive approx 1" less lift with the use of this kit." That either means that the company's kits are taller than advertised, or our springs are about 1" +/- over 'stock.'
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ENGINE / DRIVETRAIN MODS:
5.9L V8 | Pure Evil" Transmission by Dr. Evil Performance Transmissions | Hughes Engine Plenum Gasket reinforcement kit | Air Hog Drop in filter | No Muffler | 180 Thermostat | Dana 60 front, 5.38's | GM 14 bolt rear, disk brakes, 5.38's, Detroit Locker | Dakota Digital SGI-5 converter box

SUSPENSION MODS:
13" of total lift | Thuren Trac Bar | Rough Country 5" X-Series Lift Kit (removed)| 3" Top Gun Customz coil spring spacer | 3" Body Lift | Rough Country Hydro 8000 shocks | 41x14.50R17 Super Swamper Radial IROK | 17X9 Moto's |Top Gun Customz Dual Shock kit | 7" SkyJacker coils | Custom (very) long arms | Shackle flip + factory block in the rear

OTHER GOODIES / MODS:
Optima Red Top | Pioneer 6x9's and 5 1/4's | HD Radio / CD player| "C5 Corvette" style seats | 4 point harness system | 136 Amp Alternator | Thuren Cross Over Steering Conversion | Rock Lights
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 Posted: 05-20-2006, 08:14 AM
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well i only got 50K on my ram so i dont think my springs are sagging yet. So i dunno maybe ill try and get some spec for a 4.5 inch kit. I mean i can always get new 3 inch spacers if i need to. so i think ill email somep eople and see what i can come up with.
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