Okay so if I get the oem upgrade kit thing, I will need the lower section of the shaft regardless it I get the Borgenson 951 shaft? Or do I not need it if I am getting the shaft. It's still cheaper to get the oem box upgrade, steering shaft, and the lower shaft if I need it than the Psc. It's just nice they have it grouped together
Yes you will need the lower section, if you have the new gearbox, regardless if you have the complete 951 Borgeson shaft. The reason is---the new & improved gearbox has a much bigger shaft diameter, where the splines are, so you need a new end on the steering shaft to fit it.
If you get an new exact
replacement gearbox or have yours rebuilt by RedHead, you will not need the new lower section. But why would you do that ?
The crappy stock gearbox is the issue, or at least one of them, that contributes to the front end/steering issues that 03-09 2500/3500/Power Wagons get.
Yes, that is one of the reasons, probably, for their high price. It is a complete package. You KNOW that the pitman arm will fit & you KNOW that your 951 shaft will still work with the new gearbox because THEY give you the proper parts. PLUS, you don't have to deal with an idiot at the parts counter at the dealer. They can't do anything without the VIN # now. I can't imagine the nightmare of trying to order parts for a different truck without having a VIN #. They won't even sell me an oil filter without the VIN #, even though i can see it on the shelf & point to it & say "i need that one right there ! "
To me, not having that aggrivation alone is worth $$.
The reason they did just the lower part of the shaft is, that MANY people have already installed the 951 shaft BEFORE the new & improved gearbox came out. They did not want to alienate all the people who already bought & installed them---like me for example. So, they include it in the kit.
Maybe you can call them & talk to them & explain that you need the upper part as well. Maybe the will sell you just the upper part, seeing as how the lower part is included in the kit. IDK if they will or not, but it is worth a phone call anyways.
08' PowerWagon w/6-speed manual G-56. 05' 30' toyhauler camper.(10,500lbs)
Hellwig LoadPro 35 bolt on 4 leaf helper springs.
No honey, I'm NOT done buying shit for the truck yet !!!
PurpleCrainium Diff Guards
K&N air filter --- WeatherGuard 20" black bed toolbox.
winch TPC bypass
Dual battery set up w/2 Sears DieHard Platinums-Gp 65 under hood-Gp 31 Marine deep cycle in bed toolbox w/plug-n-play set up. Custom 2000/4000w inverter set up w/quick connect. Triple bike mounts above the bed- custom made by me.
Crapload of recovery gear-always subject to adding more.
Fab Four rear bumper. Soon to be- a BuckStop Baja front bumper.--Temporarily on hold, see reason below.
Installed: Borgeson #000951 steering shaft. PSC steering brace(notched for PW by Rusty-thanks bud). Carli HD CroMo adjustable track bar. Carli CroMo control arms. Carli HD upper & lower balljoints x 2 sets (replaced under warrenty) & triple sealed u-joints in front axle shafts & rear driveshaft. Moog HD tierod ends x 4. Running total is now $4800. Yup, now i'm broke !!!
What, you ask, is the difference between a Dodge Ram and a PowerWagon ?? PW frame part # 55398868AC---Reg 2500 #55398813AC
About 2" taller, 12,000lb winch w/mounting brace between framerails,electronic disconnecting swaybar(for awsome articulation),electronic locking axles front & rear(for true 4-wheel drive),tow pkg, fully skidplated,forged one piece Alcoa rims w/internal beadlock lips,larger diameter(one ton) axleshaft in rear,160 amp alt,HD battery,4.56 gears,low range electronic recalibration of gas pedal sensitivity,more but thinner leafs in rear spring pack(for better articulation), 33" BFG All-Terrain tires. 78.016:1 crawl ratio. All for $6100.00 more! Oh yeah, almost forgot-Bilstein shocks. Gear ratios: 1st 6.29:1 2nd 3.48:1 3rd 2.10:1 4th 1.38:1 5th 1.0:1 6th .79:1.. Rev 5.74:1.
Last edited by TwinStick; 04-16-2012 at 11:57 AM.