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#1 Old 06-22-2010, 07:53 AM
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Need helps with codes P0420 and P0430

P0420 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 1)

P0430 - Catalyst System Efficiency Below Threshold (Bank 2)

The catalytic converter has an oxygen sensor in front and behind it. When the vehicle is warm and running in closed loop mode, the upstream oxygen sensor waveform reading should fluctuate. The downstream O2 sensor reading should be fairly steady. Typically the P0420 code triggers the Check Engine Light if the readings of the two sensors are similar. This is indicative of (among other things) a converter that is not working as efficiently as it should be (according to specs). It is part of the vehicle emissions system.

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So I guess both rear O2's are bad but its weird both go off at the same time. I have cleared the codes and even reset the PCM but they come back.

I have no cats and the CEL for the rear O2's is disabled through custom tuning.

http://dodgeram.info/tsb/2007/18-016-07.htm

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#2 Old 06-22-2010, 11:04 PM
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Try putting in new front sensors and see what happens? Or just buy one and add it in, see if it goes away.

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#3 Old 06-23-2010, 09:38 AM
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Yeah i thought about that but wasnt looking to swap out parts to see what I get and that might not resolve it. But then again, with the truck being an 04 and 73k on it, it might be time to replace all of the O2's anyway.

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Check this out. It's pretty well detailed and it saved me alot of money.

http://www.p0420.com/
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THX man, as soon as I get back to my office I will read over it.

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This is when the non fouler method comes into play when you have no cats. You may have already done that though so maybe more steel wool.

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I had those CELs disabled through custom tuning.

But are those the codes guys get when they have no non-foulers and are not custom tuned?

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Yeah the non fouler method was mostly due to bypass those two codes for highflows or catlass setups. Dont know if that is your reason though since you had it removed via tuner.

This is from 06 when there was no 02 delete option yet.

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