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Opinons Needed
- Posted: 10-31-2009, 08:37 PM
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I'm thinking of switching to Duralast products, for the convenience and ease of warranty returns. I replaced my entire front end with Moog parts in May of 07. Since then I replace both lower ball joint (torn boots), left inner tie rod and the right outer tie rod. Today I did my pre-winter inspection, which showed I need to replace the idler arm and the right inner tie rod. All of the parts are Moog, is their quality going down? I don't go offroading, although some consider driving through NY potholes is like going offroading. The Moog parts were ordered through Rockauto and come with a lifetime warranty. All parts have or will be replaced. Which means the truck would down until the parts arrive and are installed. I have some spare parts which will keep me on the road, but 2yrs on Moog parts I might as well use Duralast. I can change them every 2yrs if need be and if they last longer it would be a plus. I do my own work, so labor charges don't apply. If you were me, what would you do?
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1998 Durango 5.2/318 44RE-Ft 4x4 9.25/3.92 Open Differential Chilipepper 77,450 miles Mods/Repairs Borla Stainless Steel catback exhaust, Bilsteins, TPS to .76, Plenum cover(Hughes engine), 180 thermostat (becool stat), Upper/lower ball joints(moog), Front painted brush bar(manik), Rear painted bumper guard(waag), Ram tail light covers (painted), Front corner light covers(Painted), Ventvisors, Roof racks removed, Grill/bumper inserts(grille-tech black), installed overhead console, signal mirrors w/brake module(muth), K&N GenII FIPK, Oil pan drain valve (summit), Ebc Slotted/Dimpled rotors, Performance Friction pads, Shorty antenna, MSD 6A w/harness, MSD ignition coil, MSD noise capacitor #8830, MSD 8.5mm wires, MSD tach adapter (summit), Replaced both oxygen sensors(Bosch), 50mm Tb(fastman), GTS aerowing(Autocustomizers.com), Royal purple oil, Royal purple differential fluid, Converted to lighted interior sun visors, Upgraded tires from 31x10.50x15 to 275/70/16 Goodyear fortera, PPH Headers w/Y-pipe, Optima yellow top(D31A), Super duty calipers(EGR), Stainless steel brake lines(EGR), 165 amp alternator(Load Boss), Viper electric fan conversion, Pcm(B&G custom flash), Valvoline atf+4, Pitman arm, idler arm, inner/outer tie rods(all replaced using moog parts), Hotchkis front and rear sway bars, 6000k Hid Bixenon headlights and 6000k fog lights Future Mods Martin saine trannsmission(fastman), Hughes engine stage I intake. bman: |
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Posted: 11-01-2009, 01:14 PM
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I had all 4 ball joints changed with Moogs almost exactly 2 years ago, and maybe 15k miles. While changing my shocks this weekend, I found on one of the lowers the bottom of the boot has come completely off the joint and the other one is torn...... not happy. My front end is very loose and wanders all over. I have replaced the steering column, intermediate shaft, rebuilt rack, and Moog outer rod ends. I was beginning to suspect control arm bushings next, and do have polyurethanes to put in eventually, but I'm wondering if its not ball joints failing again.......
I had my Moogs installed by my local Dodge dealer. If Moog products have a lifetime warranty, how would I go about getting them replaced??
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Posted: 11-01-2009, 02:03 PM
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I was debating on buying some Moog parts when my OE's wore out again. I don't think Chrysler would cover a warranty for the third time, but it might be the charm. If Moog only last a couple years, I'm almost better off buying no name brand at the parts counter. OE ball joints last me an average of four years or 50K for the uppers and lowers I'm still on the first set.
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2000 5.9 R/T - Platinum 106,812m (172,000kms) Amsoil in the diffs, transfer case and engine - Hughes Plenum - Fastman 52mm TB - K&N FIPK - Superchips (91 octane, performance) - Taylor wires My 2000 R/T |
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Posted: 11-01-2009, 02:53 PM
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Moog lower ball joint boots are weak and wear out quick. They don't replace boots, they replace the whole ball joint. It would be good if they made boots that last or just send replacement boots. It's less work to just replace the boot, you don't need a ball joint press. Their lifetime warranty is good, they'll replace them as long as you need them. Brad, the Idler arm boot was completely missing and it had so much play it was ridiculous.
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1998 Durango 5.2/318 44RE-Ft 4x4 9.25/3.92 Open Differential Chilipepper 77,450 miles Mods/Repairs Borla Stainless Steel catback exhaust, Bilsteins, TPS to .76, Plenum cover(Hughes engine), 180 thermostat (becool stat), Upper/lower ball joints(moog), Front painted brush bar(manik), Rear painted bumper guard(waag), Ram tail light covers (painted), Front corner light covers(Painted), Ventvisors, Roof racks removed, Grill/bumper inserts(grille-tech black), installed overhead console, signal mirrors w/brake module(muth), K&N GenII FIPK, Oil pan drain valve (summit), Ebc Slotted/Dimpled rotors, Performance Friction pads, Shorty antenna, MSD 6A w/harness, MSD ignition coil, MSD noise capacitor #8830, MSD 8.5mm wires, MSD tach adapter (summit), Replaced both oxygen sensors(Bosch), 50mm Tb(fastman), GTS aerowing(Autocustomizers.com), Royal purple oil, Royal purple differential fluid, Converted to lighted interior sun visors, Upgraded tires from 31x10.50x15 to 275/70/16 Goodyear fortera, PPH Headers w/Y-pipe, Optima yellow top(D31A), Super duty calipers(EGR), Stainless steel brake lines(EGR), 165 amp alternator(Load Boss), Viper electric fan conversion, Pcm(B&G custom flash), Valvoline atf+4, Pitman arm, idler arm, inner/outer tie rods(all replaced using moog parts), Hotchkis front and rear sway bars, 6000k Hid Bixenon headlights and 6000k fog lights Future Mods Martin saine trannsmission(fastman), Hughes engine stage I intake. bman: |
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Posted: 11-04-2009, 06:45 PM
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So do I call Moog directly then and they'll send me replacements? I really don't want to go back to the dealer......
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Posted: 11-04-2009, 07:13 PM
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Yes, I would give them a call. When I called them about the boots, they said send them back to the place of purchase for warranty replacement. Did you purchase them yourself or did the dealer provide and install them. For Moog to replace them you may have to remove them and send them in. I brought mine from rock auto, so I just purchased a new pair and when I sent the old ones back I received my money back. That way my truck wouldn't be down while waiting for replacements. I hope you still have the receipt, let me now how it goes. If you have to purchase a new pair, send me a private message first.
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1998 Durango 5.2/318 44RE-Ft 4x4 9.25/3.92 Open Differential Chilipepper 77,450 miles Mods/Repairs Borla Stainless Steel catback exhaust, Bilsteins, TPS to .76, Plenum cover(Hughes engine), 180 thermostat (becool stat), Upper/lower ball joints(moog), Front painted brush bar(manik), Rear painted bumper guard(waag), Ram tail light covers (painted), Front corner light covers(Painted), Ventvisors, Roof racks removed, Grill/bumper inserts(grille-tech black), installed overhead console, signal mirrors w/brake module(muth), K&N GenII FIPK, Oil pan drain valve (summit), Ebc Slotted/Dimpled rotors, Performance Friction pads, Shorty antenna, MSD 6A w/harness, MSD ignition coil, MSD noise capacitor #8830, MSD 8.5mm wires, MSD tach adapter (summit), Replaced both oxygen sensors(Bosch), 50mm Tb(fastman), GTS aerowing(Autocustomizers.com), Royal purple oil, Royal purple differential fluid, Converted to lighted interior sun visors, Upgraded tires from 31x10.50x15 to 275/70/16 Goodyear fortera, PPH Headers w/Y-pipe, Optima yellow top(D31A), Super duty calipers(EGR), Stainless steel brake lines(EGR), 165 amp alternator(Load Boss), Viper electric fan conversion, Pcm(B&G custom flash), Valvoline atf+4, Pitman arm, idler arm, inner/outer tie rods(all replaced using moog parts), Hotchkis front and rear sway bars, 6000k Hid Bixenon headlights and 6000k fog lights Future Mods Martin saine trannsmission(fastman), Hughes engine stage I intake. bman: |
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Posted: 11-15-2009, 06:30 PM
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Well the Moog replacement parts arrived from Rockauto and I installed them today. The front end is nice n tight, I'll get the wheels aligned tomorrow.
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1998 Durango 5.2/318 44RE-Ft 4x4 9.25/3.92 Open Differential Chilipepper 77,450 miles Mods/Repairs Borla Stainless Steel catback exhaust, Bilsteins, TPS to .76, Plenum cover(Hughes engine), 180 thermostat (becool stat), Upper/lower ball joints(moog), Front painted brush bar(manik), Rear painted bumper guard(waag), Ram tail light covers (painted), Front corner light covers(Painted), Ventvisors, Roof racks removed, Grill/bumper inserts(grille-tech black), installed overhead console, signal mirrors w/brake module(muth), K&N GenII FIPK, Oil pan drain valve (summit), Ebc Slotted/Dimpled rotors, Performance Friction pads, Shorty antenna, MSD 6A w/harness, MSD ignition coil, MSD noise capacitor #8830, MSD 8.5mm wires, MSD tach adapter (summit), Replaced both oxygen sensors(Bosch), 50mm Tb(fastman), GTS aerowing(Autocustomizers.com), Royal purple oil, Royal purple differential fluid, Converted to lighted interior sun visors, Upgraded tires from 31x10.50x15 to 275/70/16 Goodyear fortera, PPH Headers w/Y-pipe, Optima yellow top(D31A), Super duty calipers(EGR), Stainless steel brake lines(EGR), 165 amp alternator(Load Boss), Viper electric fan conversion, Pcm(B&G custom flash), Valvoline atf+4, Pitman arm, idler arm, inner/outer tie rods(all replaced using moog parts), Hotchkis front and rear sway bars, 6000k Hid Bixenon headlights and 6000k fog lights Future Mods Martin saine trannsmission(fastman), Hughes engine stage I intake. bman: |
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