can the charger r/t take it??

[Albert1500]

could the charger r/t stand up to a ford lightning with 495 hp???

[blackarmy]

Im guessing probably not. But would a Charger R/T (or even SRT8) with the same amount of money thrown at it be faster? You bet you black ass it would :-)

[Albert1500]

so get this, my friend she has a lightning with 495HP and will eventually get it up to 660HP, she thinks the charger r/t with the same amount of money into it or even the SRT-8 modded out will not take her lightning. silly girl huh?

[blackarmy]

so get this, my friend she has a lightning with 495HP and will eventually get it up to 660HP, she thinks the charger r/t with the same amount of money into it or even the SRT-8 modded out will not take her lightning. silly girl huh?

Very silly. See thats why they say women drivers suck :D j/k to the ladies out there. Just show her the gsm website with all hp increases you get with the blower.

[Albert1500]

whats a blower anyway

[blackarmy]

a supercharger.

[ltpyro]

You know i see alot of talk about superchargers and stuff for the charger, but why not make a turbo kit for it. Turbo's are much more efficient and can therefore produce more HP and are better with gas and engine wear and tear. Just my opinion though. I think i'm going to mod a turbo kit to fit on the charger.

Anyone know what HP gains you get from a blower???? and at what PSI of boost???

[n-gin]

That is true, but you have to also look at turbo lag. A turbo doesnt work as soon as you hit the gas. It takes a while for it to spool up. Another thing is oil temp goes up with a turbo. Also Astock exhaust can yeild a turbo.
A supercharger on the other hand is instant throttle response, more power, and is a sealed unit with its own oil not tied into you engine oil.
I would go with a supercharger :rck:

[ltpyro]

Ok first the oil temp, turbos can be added with their own oil pumps and coolers to keep their temp down. as far as the oil temp of the motor, it woul dbe the same with a turbo or a super charger. boost = HP = energy = heat. As for the lag a turbo has, not true all the time. the only reason the turbos you may know have lag is cause they were set to bring on the boost at a cetain RPM. You can have boost come on with a turbo at any RPM. It all depends on the size of the housing. Now i think you ment to say a stock exhaust "can't" handle a turbo??? not true as well. any exhaust can handle a turbo. like i said before it all depends on the size, smaller motors will require smaller turbos, but if it flows it can turn a turbo therefore creating boost. Now for the price of a super charger you can do a very nice turbo system that pushes more boost. Don't know the exact numbers but a typical supercharger runs at what??? between 6 - 8 psi??? i know it depends on the gearing. but i beleive that is typical. (correct me if i'm wrong) now a turbo with the same money can go to about 12 - 15 psi (if the motor can handle it stock, that will depend on the motor and how much compression it has) But there are ways arounf the compression makes heat problem. For example if you add an intercooler to the system to take the charged air temp down. cooler = less heat = more capable boost. now you can get crazy with it and add nitros to it and really supercool the charge and pull some serious HP but that gets expensive and not street legal. (well here anyways)

So my point all in all is that if you are really into working for it and want better performance and turbo is the way to go. Superchargers are easier to get your hands on and are already made for certain vehicals. Me personnally i would turbo charge mine and kill and of your supercharged ones, cause i like to do the crazy stuff like adding the nitros. hehehehe

one more thing i would like to know, what is the ratio of HP to boost out of a super charger??? at the tire of course none of this "it makes 60% more HP" cause thats on the engins and it uses some of its own HP just to turn itself.

[n-gin]

On the exhaust I ment, one that the back presure wont allow the turbo to spool up to its maximum potential. As to where a free flowing exhaust will. Two is there einough room to mod the exhaust for inlet of turbo. Certain turbos come in three diferent sizes. Please correct me if I am wrong. There is a turbo for low, mid, and high rpm. Each one is specific to its own rpm range. I mean If you get a low range turbo you vertually have no lag but the low range turbo wont creat the same amount of power in the upper rpm range as would the highr one. :o

[ltpyro]

Well there are more then three different sizes to turbos.

[n-gin]

I just found this and it help me understand tubos better.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/engine/113_0312_turbo/index.html

[RAM MAN]

no offense = please don't take this personally, but I keep reading posts about 2 TOTALLY different kinda of vehicles in a race .. and who would win . . .

If you want a Super fast truck - don't buy a Ram with a 4.7 and add this and that = BUY a SRT 10 - if you want it faster - blow it

then RACE IT against some other brands TRUCK line

Same with a car = if you want a super fast MOPAR - hands down, buy a VIPER

Want it faster ? Supercharger it ... (Ask Sunra)

then go blow the doors off other CARS

Most legit races have one class of vehicle pitted against another one ... How about this - lets race the Charger R/T against a Mustang GT or a Pontiac GTO...

sorry for the rant ...

I'll set down from my soap box now ...:soapbox:

[slammedram98]

i hear ya on the srt 10 and viper and what not. but take the rice burners for example say u get a 2.0 or something smaller whatever but my point is if you mod those things right you can get 350 maybe 400 horses out of em. thats with an engine that probably weighs around 250 300 lbs wet right. so u get that horsepower out of a very light engine you have a good power to weight ratio if u beef up a small engine. so i dont think theres anything wrong w buyin a 4.7 and adding this and that to it. im a dodge man all the way but i seen a 5.4 lightning smoke an srt10 by just adding this and that

[RAM MAN]

ok I see your point

for smaller cars with larger motors, lets check out the Neon SRT-4, at one time it was the 2nd fastest Mopar made, after the Viper :D

As far as the trucks go, lets realize:

the Ford Lightning gets part of its power from being Superchargered from the factory

The SRT10 is all about pure cubic inches ...

Cubic Inches Vs. Forced Induction

lets Supercharge the SRT10 !!!!

SunRa has a supercharged Viper and some other mechanical upgrades and I think he is shooting for 1000HP


http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75829

[slammedram98]

i know its supercharged but like u said the srt10 is pure cubic inches hence more weight. and hell yeah if u supercharged an srt10 it would smoke damn near anything. have any of u guys heard of the bugatti veyron it has a W16 motor not a v16 but W it pushes out 1001 hp i believe it has a top speed of around 400 mph

[slammedram98]

im sorry ram man this is my last one i promise i just want to comment one last time on the subject when u said before if u want a fast truck dont buy a 4.7 and add stuff to it but and than race it but a 5.4 is a small engine compared to the V10 and add stuff to that small engine sayyyyyyyyy a supercharger and maybe a couple other minor things and u got some balls enough to blow the piss out of that v10 ok thats all i just love gettin big block numbers out of small blocks o and by the way your truck is ****in bad

[RAM MAN]

point taken

thanks for the kudos on my old truck

[n-gin]

I think it all depends on what you buy.
I have a 4.7 in my durango 2002. The only other op. is the 360RT. I did not want the 360 nor the $ that goes with it. Not to mension insurance. So I got the 4.7 with 3.92 trac loc, infinity sound, I like doing this and that to a truck because it keeps me out of trouble and for the simple fact I like to wrench.
I think you will get more respect building something then just buying it. :rck:

[RAM MAN]

no offense

I guess what I should say is - IMO - if you want to buy a vehicle mainly for performance reasons - I would recommend buying a vehicle with the largest amount of cubic inches to start with

you can always add a turbo or a supercharger // then smile while you view the competition in your rear view mirror

fair enough ?

[n-gin]

Cheers

[slammedram98]

understood ram man what are u drivin now

[ltpyro]

I agree. It goes back to the old saying "there is no replacement for displacement". Sure you can get a small motor and deck it out but if your looking for the sky, you gotta start as high as you can get. As for the smaller motors and their HP to weight ratio, that all comes down to egine design. So instead of just going for straight cubic inches look for the biggest with the best ration combination. But if you just want cheap HP, just add nitros. Its prolly the best HP to $ you can get.

[6stringer]

could the charger r/t stand up to a ford lightning with 495 hp???

Only if the guy behind the wheel of the lightning just got his license.