what are your thoughts on the new charger?

[690hp]

to me, i think its a disgrace of the charger, its growing on me, but i think its a poor excuse for what its supposed to be.

[TR4Petty]

If there's no 2-door coupe version, then there's no room in my garage for it!

[vipergts2]

I agree with the first post, it's not the charger I have been waiting for since 99'. the four doors does not bother me but I was hoping for something more than a Magnum sedan. the pics we've seen does'nt even have any scalops in the door.

[E8502]

Over at Allpar (Dave will know what I'm talking about), I "flame" newbie's who come to our Charger thread and say exactly what you just said 690hp. I'm just sick of trying to tell people to get over the 1999 Concept (which by the way, looks so outdated by 2005, and doesn't fit any current design flow), it was good at the time, but the 2006 Charger looks much more retro, and more in touch with the Charger of the past. You seriously do not know how many times I've attempted to understand your points of view, but every time, no matter how I look at it, I fail. It seems to be that it's ones who are somewhat ignorant and uneducated about the entire Charger project (and I will humbly say that I feel pretty darn knowledgeable about every aspect of the Charger program - something more people should become so they make false and ignorant remarks about this car) say stuff like, "DCX messed up the Charger, Dodge sucks, I'm buying a Mustang..." Well, go buy your Mustang folks, us Mopar people truly don't care. Most of us can see the new Charger will be a hit, and take it in that Dodge is doing well as far as sales and products. If you're (not anyone in particular) on a Dodge or Mopar forum, don't post your hate for the new Charger in every thread, it's just so amazingly tiring for myself and a few other “Charger Veterans” (mainly those who are posters in Allpar’s 400 + page, almost 400,000 views, 8,240 reply at the time of this posting, Charger thread).

[Blackcomb]

I personally think people are messing up the Magnum Sedan and the Charger...

[gouge93]

I "flame" newbie's who come to our Charger thread....

It seems to be that it's ones who are somewhat ignorant and uneducated about the entire Charger project (and I will humbly say that I feel pretty darn knowledgeable about every aspect of the Charger program - something more people should become so they make false and ignorant remarks about this car) say stuff like, "DCX messed up the Charger....

First, I think it's wrong to just start "flaming" someone because they don't like the charger. EVeryone has their opinion, and just because someone doesn't like it does not mean they are ignorant. Because honestly, I'm among the people who dislike the new charger, but in no way does that mean I am ignorant. Yes, I like the 99 concept, and I do agree it would be outdated by 05, but IMO they shoulda kept that design and just updated it some more. Will I go buy a mustang? NO CHANCE IN HELL! Mopar or no car for me, but I'll just stick to another model is all. But then again, I have yet to see this thing in person, so who knows, maybe it will grow on me.

[E8502]

First, I think it's wrong to just start "flaming" someone because they don't like the charger. EVeryone has their opinion, and just because someone doesn't like it does not mean they are ignorant. Because honestly, I'm among the people who dislike the new charger, but in no way does that mean I am ignorant. Yes, I like the 99 concept, and I do agree it would be outdated by 05, but IMO they shoulda kept that design and just updated it some more. Will I go buy a mustang? NO CHANCE IN HELL! Mopar or no car for me, but I'll just stick to another model is all. But then again, I have yet to see this thing in person, so who knows, maybe it will grow on me.I don't mean to "flame," but rather, it comes off that way...

At least you're not going to buy a Stang... That's a good sigm. :crazy:

[690hp]

i know the 99 concept is old news, and i agree with it'll be outdated by '05. yet, i hate ford with a passion, i hate chevy because of their bullshit desicions(I.E making the impala FWD, killing the F-bodies) so i wont be going anywhere besides mopar. and besides, it's my opinion, i dont care about what people say about my thoughts, call me gay, call me retarded, ban me even! i wont care. :P but i must say, if i ever got hold of one of these new chargers, i wouldnt car if it was a station wagon, a coupe, or sedan, i'd love it. hell, i'd even love a PT cruiser if i got one. :P
i've been around dodges my whole life, and it might as well stay that way.

[E8502]

i know the 99 concept is old news, and i agree with it'll be outdated by '05. yet, i hate ford with a passion, i hate chevy because of their bullshit desicions(I.E making the impala FWD, killing the F-bodies) so i wont be going anywhere besides mopar. and besides, it's my opinion, i dont care about what people say about my thoughts, call me gay, call me retarded, ban me even! i wont care. :P but i must say, if i ever got hold of one of these new chargers, i wouldnt car if it was a station wagon, a coupe, or sedan, i'd love it. hell, i'd even love a PT cruiser if i got one. :P
i've been around dodges my whole life, and it might as well stay that way.At least you didn't take my post personal, which so many have taken my posts so harshly over at Allpar...

Personally, I love the new Charger (and the other LX cars, can ya tell?).

[FreeLantz]

The Allpar Charger thread is but one of several reasons why I have all but given up on that website.... I too am sick and tired of hearing the same things said over and over again by people who just want to get a reaction from those of us who do like the new Charger. HOWEVER, I do understand where some of those feelings come from... if it had been up to me, the car would have been called something else (what was wrong with Intrepid?) and the Charger name would have been reserved for a two-door Hemi version! Frankly I dont even want a car with a V6 to be called Charger but WHO AM I TO SAY what Chrysler should call the car? I do not work for Chrysler, I do not own stock in Chrysler, I merely buy their trucks and have no intention of buying a four-door sedan anyway! So my opinion on the matter is actually USELESS and so is anyone else's who falls into the same category as me!

How's that for some tough talk! :D

Now, as a Mopar enthusiast I am very excited that Dodge will have a RWD Hemi-powered car producing as much as 440 horsepower by some accounts, that is not a station wagon! To me that is so great I can accept the fact that it will have four doors.

It is also worth noting that DCX is planning to build a two-door version of the Charger..... it probably will not be called Charger.... but it will be a two-door, RWD "Mustang fighter" and I hope to God it kills everything else on the road so everyone who is whining about this sedan will finally shut up!!


/end rant


Whew! Chris, see what you started?? :stk:

[sofast785]

Hey, did anyone happen to catch the race yesterday? I read an earlier post that there might be a Richard Petty Charger commerical during the race. I didn't see any. Did you guys?

[E8502]

I know Dave... We miss you over there... Ya should come in and check by. :P

About the NASCAR Ad, if it was shown, it would be on Allpar, it's not. :(

[FreeLantz]

Chris, until Dave Z does something about the anti-Mopar friends of his who are ruining the forums (ie, Gerald and company), I probably will not be back. He had the nerve to give me a "hostility warning" for telling Gerald he does not contribute anything positive to the site. Well, it's true as everyone knows, but Gerald says all kinds of inflamatory things and routinely bashes Chrysler just to get a reaction from people, but he gets no warning because of his friendship with Dave Z. Allpar is for Mopar fans in name only. I'm very sorry I gave them a donation a few months ago.

I sure would like to see DodgeTalk or another site build up a News and Rumors forum the way Allpar's was growing a few months ago. Now that Allpar is so hostile and unfriendly to anyone who supports DCX, I dont know where (if anywhere) most of those insiders will post.

[gouge93]

Wasn't sure if you were talkin to me or if there was another chris. My main problem is with the name on the car like you said Freelantz. But from now on I'm done saying anything about it. It's starting to become like politics or something.

[FreeLantz]

Haha, sorry about that, I was talking to E8502 who's name is also Chris, and I think we should keep talking about the Charger but keep it cordial and not blow things out of proportion. What gets me, is when people use crazy language and say its "disgraceful" or an "abomination" or some other word that they would probably never use otherwise, to talk about a car! I understand the feeling of wishing the Charger would be reborn as a two-door, but as early as 1998 when Chrysler Corp was developing the LH-based Charger concept, they knew the market just wouldnt support it. I know this car is going to be a hit. And I am sure the two-door Hemi will be out in a couple years and then people will be able to let go of their Charger grudges. lol

[StreetRacer]

I agree with Freelantz
I read a thread where some bloke compared the bloke responsible for the 06 with Hitler. :huh: :stupid:
People please think about the affect your thoughtless crap might have and whether it is constructive to achieving your true goals. :IDEA:
If you really think trying to kill the 06 Charger is a good idea even if you dont like it maybee your playing for the wrong team. Maybee you are a closet Chev in denial.
Like it or not this is the new Charger. Kill it and you may never get another.
Praise its good points (Hemi muscle car, the best MOPAR sedan we have seen in over 20 years) constructively criticise it's bad points (would look better with lower waist, rear end needs improvement, more agressive roof line, some styling cues from PHR concept might be better) and we just might get the Charger we want with the next model.
It is certainly not perfect but neither was the first Charger in my opinon, it took untill 69 to get it right. However this is definately a step in the right direction so sign me up for one.
I'm just stoked that DCX might finally bring out a new MOPAR capable of scaring the opposition back into hiding. :greenchai

By the way if any one from DCX is reading this A MUSCLE CAR IS A LIGHT WIEGHT ROLLING SHELL SEDAN WITH A POWERFULL MOTOR DROPPED IN FRONT DRIVEN BY THE REAR WHEELS AND SOME SEATS ADDED BUILT SOLELY FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE APPLICATIONS so please leave the weight adding luxuries for luxury vehicles and collectors that like ticking option boxes, and give us the charger we love and remember a budget race car with number plates.

[FreeLantz]

Good post StreetRacer! I should cut and paste it into about 10 other discussions about this car so more people read it. :)

[E8502]

I agree with Freelantz
I read a thread where some bloke compared the bloke responsible for the 06 with Hitler. :huh: :stupid:
People please think about the affect your thoughtless crap might have and whether it is constructive to achieving your true goals. :IDEA:
If you really think trying to kill the 06 Charger is a good idea even if you dont like it maybee your playing for the wrong team. Maybee you are a closet Chev in denial.
Like it or not this is the new Charger. Kill it and you may never get another.
Praise its good points (Hemi muscle car, the best MOPAR sedan we have seen in over 20 years) constructively criticise it's bad points (would look better with lower waist, rear end needs improvement, more agressive roof line, some styling cues from PHR concept might be better) and we just might get the Charger we want with the next model.
It is certainly not perfect but neither was the first Charger in my opinon, it took untill 69 to get it right. However this is definately a step in the right direction so sign me up for one.
I'm just stoked that DCX might finally bring out a new MOPAR capable of scaring the opposition back into hiding. :greenchai

By the way if any one from DCX is reading this A MUSCLE CAR IS A LIGHT WIEGHT ROLLING SHELL SEDAN WITH A POWERFULL MOTOR DROPPED IN FRONT DRIVEN BY THE REAR WHEELS AND SOME SEATS ADDED BUILT SOLELY FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE APPLICATIONS so please leave the weight adding luxuries for luxury vehicles and collectors that like ticking option boxes, and give us the charger we love and remember a budget race car with number plates. You win the best newbie's post award for the year. :rck: << LMAO at that smilie.

[dhageremtp]

I like the car myself. And now that I am a family man, a four door is what I need. The wife said no to a two door car. I think part of the thinking is to appeal to those baby boomers who are family people now, or hauling grandkids. They want a car to connect them to yesteryear, but yet be new and sporty. Just my thought!

[faterotong]

Kinda like RX-8 to the RX-7? lol. I love ths design of this charger and I find it looks damn mean like Viper over at Allpar said. I love that quote.

"If the Neon's quote was "Hi!", the Charger's could be _____ OFF!" lol!

Too bad it's called charger but it still looks nice!

[turbopilot]

""""but the 2006 Charger looks much more retro, and more in touch with the Charger of the past."""""

Absurd.

Where does anyone see the retro? Retro is the Coke bottle shape. There is absolutly no coke bottle shape. The front looks like a 05 Dakota. The back seems to look like an Intrepid. The poor attempt at a Cuda quarter panel is not only out of place on a Dodge, but shaped completly wrong. The shape of the c piller looking like a 66 is a waste of time and again, not done correctly. With the 68-70 being the glory years, why go 66? If the 99 concept was "outdated"....then the 68-70 must really be outdated, so maybe thats why Dodge didnt go with the style of the 99. <sarcasm>. Why do people compare it to the new Mustang? Do a side by side, angle by angle, interior to interior comparison of the 68 and 05 Mustang. As much as some blockhead Mopar die hards hate Mustangs, you would have to be blind to miss the awesome tribute to the Mustangs greatest years. The new Charger is a tribute only to a name, with truck like "style." I feel bad that some of you guys feel the need to become self proclaimed "experts" on the new Charger design. Saying the 06 is more retro then the 99 is ludicrous. Expert or not, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I am a Mopar guy and this is my opinion. Am I less....or more(!).....of a Mopar guy for voicing this? Forums are for opinions, one way or the other. No one should be chastised for having an opinion either way no matter what the forum geeks say. I have owned 23 Mopars, will not buy this one, and in my humble opinion as a lifelong Mopar guy, this car is a complete miss. Nuff said.

PS My "paint" modification of how I believe a retro Charger should look on a 300 platform took 2 minutes. Yeah its rough but look at the lines and how easy it could be a real Charger.

[FreeLantz]

Kinda like RX-8 to the RX-7? lol. I love ths design of this charger and I find it looks damn mean like Viper over at Allpar said. I love that quote.

"If the Neon's quote was "Hi!", the Charger's could be _____ OFF!" lol!

Too bad it's called charger but it still looks nice!
Haha, I saw that quote in longlivechrysler's signature over at Allpar. Now I know who said the famous words. :D

[faterotong]

Turbo, I do not intend this post as a flame in any way so please keep that in mind while reading my reply.

Sure, the Charger is not a real tribute to the old one, but times have changed. I for one would not buy the Mustang because it's just too impractical. Sure, looks cool and all, but it would not suit my lifestyle. The Charger fits the bill perfectly and Dodge just needs to release a stripped version with a huge engine in it. :P

[TradedBenz4Hemi]

It should be called Monaco, because thats what it looks like. A Doge Monaco 4 door from the 60's early 70's.
I have A 68 Charger R/T and would hate to park that 4 door next ot it and tell it
" Look, your brother from the future".

[mopartodd]

This whole Charger thing is to have the name in NASCAR I believe. Hopefully DC will come out with a 2-dr version more worthy of the name. JMO