Does anyone know if the All Wheel Drive option will be available with the new 6 speed manual transmission?
dodge_R/T13
08-08-2004, 04:36 PM
Does anyone know if the All Wheel Drive option will be available with the new 6 speed manual transmission?
The NV244HD (Full-Time) transfer case will NOT be avaible with the manual transmission, also it will only be avaible on SLT and Laramie models with the V8 and automatic transmission.
hemidakota
08-20-2004, 09:13 AM
It is on hold for now, along with the 4.7 engine (Dated 5-Aug)
MG42pillbox
08-25-2004, 12:04 AM
the Getrag 6 speed will be an excellent addition, the only bull sh*t thing is that it will only be optional for the regular 4.7, not the 4.7HO.
Modain47
08-25-2004, 07:42 PM
I'm not sure the Getrag six speed is all that much to salivate over. Its 1st, 2nd, & 3rd gears are somewhat close to the NV3500's ratios. But its 5th gear is direct, as the NV3500's 4th is. Between our 3rd and 4th gear set it sandwiches in another (not much different) gear. And only one overdrive (6th). To make the six speed an improvement over my present NV3500 I'd rather have another overdrive gear, not another gear between my 3rd and 4th gears.
The NV3500's 1st gear is usually not very necessary with standard tire sizes. I hardly ever use it unless starting on hills, towing, carrying heavy loads, etc. The 4.23 ratio is even more "useless" for my needs. The one overdrive is not as low as the NV3500's.
There's always things to counter improvements, however, improvements they are! How much? Like everything, it remains to be seen. But, at least we know DC's listening.
Astral :SPIN:
dodgehemi2003
09-01-2004, 08:20 AM
Used to have a Dakota, now have a Ram, but I know my 2002 Dakota had a stick, and I would have liked to have had an extra high overdrive. My Ram has the HEMI w/ 5spd manual tranny, and I wish it was a 6 spd with 5th and 6th both being overdrive gears. It would dramatically help gas mileage if I could get the RPM's to drop a little at 65 mph.
MG42pillbox
09-12-2004, 12:58 AM
If you get a higher gear ratio, It will be as if you had 2 ODs 3.55s as opposed to 3.92........
dodgehemi2003
09-13-2004, 02:45 PM
actually I have 4.10s...
JamesJ2525
11-12-2004, 12:29 AM
I like driving the 6 spds. For those who cant drive a manual well the lowerish 1st gear helps with takeoffs.
viper3
11-13-2004, 06:25 PM
Is the 6 speed available now? I tried to build one on the Dodge website but I didn't see an option for the 6 speed with the 3.7 or 4.7
dodge_R/T13
11-14-2004, 10:56 AM
Is the 6 speed available now? I tried to build one on the Dodge website but I didn't see an option for the 6 speed with the 3.7 or 4.7
(DEJ) 6-speed manual trans has a Job #1 of 12/6/04
b1llyw
11-22-2004, 10:08 AM
(DEJ) 6-speed manual trans has a Job #1 of 12/6/04
Where do you get your info from? That's really helpful. :rck:
rossn2
02-23-2005, 09:07 AM
It's not a GETRAG 6spd. It's a DC built aluminum transmission with a G56 code. You might want to do some research.
b1llyw
02-23-2005, 09:19 AM
4.7 Dakotas and Rams are going to get a 6-speed Getrag. The 6-speed going in the 2500 Ram and 3500 Rams with the hemi or diesel is the G56.
rossn2
02-23-2005, 09:35 AM
My bust:
THE CVD G56 on 2500-3500, Powerwagon: http://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123593&page=1&pp=15
Lancer/Caliber SRT are going with the 6-speed Getrag tranny
dodgefan360
04-28-2005, 06:52 PM
Used to have a Dakota, now have a Ram, but I know my 2002 Dakota had a stick, and I would have liked to have had an extra high overdrive. My Ram has the HEMI w/ 5spd manual tranny, and I wish it was a 6 spd with 5th and 6th both being overdrive gears. It would dramatically help gas mileage if I could get the RPM's to drop a little at 65 mph.
Perhaps DC will partner up with the (dare I say it) Chevrolet division and steal the corvette's 6 speed. Top gear is 0.57! It'd be a great tranny, especially for the 1500 HEMI, providing you don't tow. It can handle 400hp and 400lb. ft.! With the .57 6th gear you'll probably get at least V6 mileage, if not better on the highway! Even with 3.92's! The vette, with a final drive of 3.42 with the 6 speed, is 1500rpm!
Does anyone know if the T56 Viper/Ram SRT-10 tranny will fit to the 5.7 Hemi engine?
KreweRoux
05-12-2005, 08:02 PM
Has anybody driven or own a Dak with the new getrag??
BruceC
06-06-2005, 11:00 AM
My Canadian spec Quad Cab STplus in 2wd was built to my spec in early May with the following options
V8
6spd Getrag
3.55 rear end ratio
Limited slip rear end
Power group (opt in Canada only)
Console
Rear defrost
SLT mags (opt in Canada only)
Mineral Grey Metallic
The 6 speed is Sweet! whoever is considering one - Just do it! I have 1000 km on it now and the engine/tranny/rear end are bedding in real nicely - no slop and humming great. Shifting a manual V8 is a little different as the flywheel effect is fairly present as the engine revs go up and down more slowly than small 4's or 6's. The first day I wasnt too smooth but after I learned to time my shifts (pause a little) the next gear was selected really smoothly. The clutch is nice and progressive and starts off early in the peddle travel. The gates are well defined and snick nicely and better as time progresses. Only hang up was 5th to 6th I occassionally slipped into 4th cuz I am still getting use to it. It requires a little bit of concentration but not much! Reverse is to the far right of 6th and requires a good push - you will not select it without wanting to. Driving it now, I tend to blip the throttle on downshifts to match revs and it feels good. The 3.55 posi and v8 (5350 pounds towing limit) are a nice match - 1st is low for yanking by 3500 pound trailer. Unloaded - you can start in 2nd with tiniest bit of slipping, from there you can skip a gear if you pause long enough to sync revs and gears.
Love this setup. By the way the console is a must for 6 speed, puts your arm perfectly where it needs to be.
Would not get a wussamatic if someone paid me
BruceC
KreweRoux
06-23-2005, 09:10 AM
Bruce, just got my 05 Dak w/ the 6 speed and am happy with it but I have a few questions for you. Does your shift knob jerk in your hand every time you hit a bump? It seems to me that I can feel every imperfection in the road as it is channeled through the stick to my wrist. I also have had my hand thrown of the knob when I have hit a sizeable bump in the road, a big problem here in New Orleans as our roads are attrocious. How's your engine at idle, mine is roughter than I expected, I can feel vibrations, it's not as smooth as I thought it would be. Do you think I should take it into the dealer?
BruceC
06-27-2005, 11:42 AM
Krewe,
The 6 speed with the long shift knob definetly does jerk around when you hit bumps and the such. Best to keep hands away after shifting on bumpy terrain. As for the vibration, I felt the same thing at idle and have actually driven many 4.7's with the 5 speed automatic and never recall such vibration at idle. I opened up the hood and was convinced that my fan was out of whack and was causing it (fan seemed to be offset moving back and forth at idle). I did take the truck in (also because I thought I heard stange engine noises when accelerating from 2000 rpm in 2nd or 3rd - thought it was piston slap)
Dealer found nothing wrong - said engine noise normal and vibration too, take a look at your fan at idle (assume you have v8) let me know if it looks odd.
Bruce
Incidentally, now that she is broke in it peels out really nice in 1st and leaves 2 very even black strips on the pavement - Love this set up. Engine feels much better now and revs out nice. My break in was pretty conservative and gradual over 2000 miles.
hjelc
07-06-2005, 09:08 AM
After 6 months I finally received my Dakota 4 X 4 with the 6 spd. Getrag.
I like the transmission but have issues with the engine control generated by inputs from the transmission. Dodge says this is all normal! There is no engine braking below 2500Rpm. Above 2500RPM after throttle is let off then 5 seconds later the throttle closes and deceleration occurs but if the throttle is just touched then you have to wait another 5 seconds! If you decelerate to under 2500RPM and then just need a little speed and just touch the throttle the RPM comes up and will not close the throttle-- it maintains the current rpm, if you're going down even the slightest incline vehicle will accelerate. The engine is actually not pulling and will not take you up an incline, it's just that the vehicle behaves like an automatic with overdrive. If the transmission is shifted into neutral while traveling the rpm stays the same! Then, if the clutch is still out and you begin to ease it to a gear, the appropriate switch is made prior to gear mesh and the engine rpm will either go up or down depending on the gear it thinks you're shifting too. Since at 60mph the rpm is around 2000RPM there is no engine braking--- therefore, across the rolling hills of the Midwest the vehicle will accelerate up to 10mph coming down most of the hills (with cruise on or off!). Stop and go traffic in the city is no fun either because of the lack of engine braking. I drove my old '98 5spd. for 239,000 miles and it behaved like a manual is supposed too. I expected this new vehicle to act like a manual transmission always has. If here had been a 6spd to test drive and if in fact it is normal I'd never ordered one! When vehicle is stopped throttle/rpm acts normally so nothing is sticking. Have you experienced this also, or is it just mine? Thanks
BruceC
07-06-2005, 03:09 PM
Take a look at my earlier post regarding the way it shifted, ie taking time to shift and 'flywheel effect'. I think you have explained why I felt the engine was slow to rev down after clutching and getting off the gas - the tach needle just seems to hang there and then falls off gradually after that. In fact, if I shift quickly - its as if you are slipping the clutch (higher engine speeds between shifts will result in wearing out the clutch sooner no doubt). I prefer to blip the throttle myself - wish the computer didn't try to do it for me! Don't know but I think they may have done this to help people shift smoother- ie less jerky. I am with you though, I noticed the lack of engine braking and then strangley the way it kicks in after a few seconds. I wonder if this 'feature' improves fuel economy at all? It may as the lack of engine braking allows the vehicle to roll farther. Anyway, maybe there is a way to disable this feature that I don't care for.
B
hjelc
07-06-2005, 10:44 PM
I doubt if it helps gas mileage since it takes fuel to keep the RPM up!
My Chrysler dealer techs. didn't like the way it behaved either-- they called Chrsyler's "star line" and talked to the transmission folks and they said it's all normal and the driveability folks said it's normal; for smoother shifting and emission control. I doubt that waiting 5 seconds to close the throttle does much for emissions! I could see it might help if they shut off the fuel and let in more oxygen-- maybe. If they did that, it should let the RPM drop like we're used to. It seems to me they are just trying to justify the vehicles behavior. The really irritating thing about it is: all they need to do is just adjust the ECM paramaters to let the engine operate by driver inputs and not the transmission inputs-- it's a real irritant! I no longer get a response from the Dodge customer service E-mail. I guess they're just ignoring me now!
Modain47
07-07-2005, 12:14 PM
Maybe Superchips will engineer a fix this in a new 3715L tuner? After all, it's just a matter of reprogramming the computer. <g>
Maybe DCX will be kind enough to bend to the customer's wishes and offer a PCM flash that will let the engine/tranny operate as a manual should? There's alway hoping...
krunch
07-07-2005, 01:52 PM
Anyone have a problem with the 6 speed manual retaining high RPM's when clutch is pushed in? It is almost as if the RPM's are tied to speed. The RPM's go up when clutch is in. All of the other Manuals I have had when you push in the clutch the RPM's go to idle speed. Is it possible the control chip is for an automatic? Are manuals and automatic chips different?
stickshiftsrule
07-08-2005, 12:16 AM
Thought I'd chime in here......
Everything you guys are describing is the way it is for the rams with the getrag as well. I do miss the engine breaking at speeds over 25 mph, but otherwise I'm very happy with it!
I'm surprized that no one mentioned about breakin' em' loose in 3rd yet....
fun-fun-fun!!clik!! (http://www.zabeard.com/rf/roadclip-2.MOV)
Modain47
07-08-2005, 12:13 PM
Andy, I like you avatar tag-line. Pretty funny.
stickshiftsrule
07-08-2005, 12:47 PM
Andy, I like you avatar tag-line. Pretty funny.
........did you watch the vid??? :D
Modain47
07-08-2005, 01:54 PM
Pretty cool video. I like the 3rd gear scratch. I can get mine (sometimes) to do that when I shift 2-3 at 5500 RPM. It's fun getting on the freeway like that!
