Which Muffler is best???

[Z mann R2]

I want a low tone, low drone nice grumble.....I also think I'm just gonna do a direct replacement of the stock muffler, no duals, no bigger pipe just straight swap and leave the resonator on. Which exhaust should I go with?

I could always load my mufflers with some cheese though...I hear cheddar give off a great sound

[bob1340]

I want a low tone, low drone nice grumble.....I also think I'm just gonna do a direct replacement of the stock muffler, no duals, no bigger pipe just straight swap and leave the resonator on. Which exhaust should I go with?

I could always load my mufflers with some cheese though...I hear cheddar give off a great sound

People here will knock Flowmaster to no end. I have used them for decades and have had zero issues ever with them. A 40 or 50 series on a Hemi sounds good. I had a 3 chamber on my old Ram which was a 4.7 engine. It sounded perfect. IMHO it was the nicest sounding Ram around. Many will say if you don't spend at least $250.00 on installing a muffler you will have junk. I say anyone who spends $250.00 on a muffler is nuts. My son went with a 2 chamber and dumps it at the muffler on his '07 Hemi. Sounds terrible. Don't do that.

Okay, now all the anti-Flowmaster folks can start flaming.

[ccorbett86]

I have the 4.7 and did a direct replacement with a magnaflow muffler and it sounds great. I can barely hear it at 60 but sounds loud and deep like any flowmaster on acceleration and low cruising speeds. Hope that helps! Oh by the way there is a guy on here looking to buy a hemi stock muffler, his user name is Krs

[TheBarAndGrill]

Borla all the way! I will tell you it is NOT loud, just has a really deep mellow rumble and growls with power when you gas it. I have nothing but compliments on the sound of my 09. Flowmasters are full of constant road rumble when you don't want it, that is why flows are knocked to no end.

[wyat72]

I have a magnaflow 5x11x22. It sounds like you are describing. You can hardly hear it at 65. But if you get on it you can, sounds fricking sweet at 3000RPM. But I have mine dumbed under the box with no resonator. I think my setup makes it sound louder then it actually is. You may want a 5x6x24 if you want the resonators on.

Borla is also very good. It was very pricy when I compaired it too magnaflow, could be different now.

Side story: This weekend the wife and I were on a road trip to a wedding in Columbus NE. We got stuck behind a JackASS pulling a gooseneck trailer 45mph on a 60mph 2 lane road. Not a huge deal, except it was hilly and the dumb$hit was hogging the center lane. All in all I couldnt see around him to pass, and when I could I was in a no passing zone. So finally we get to a part in the road when the slower lane had a 3rd lane to go into, so I follow the guy for about a half mile cursing him thinking he will change lanes at some point, he knew I was back there. Well, he doesnt get over, so finally I just hammer it and pass him in the lane the slow traffic is suppose to be in. When I got on it the RPMs jumped to about 3000 (it sounded f-ing AWESOME)and my truck firmly planted us in our seats. When I got done with the pass my wife looked at me and said, "That made me a little wet. That was the coolest thing I've seen and heard your truck do." That was the best thing my wife has ever said about my truck, and when we got to Colombus she proved it. ;)

[plumcrazy73]

wyat guessing you are going to be doing that more often then.

[wyat72]

everytime we ride in it now. :D

[hounddogg]

I just had a Magnaflow 22 or 24 installed.Think he said a 24.I just did a quick semi measurment with my hand etc.There XL series.Pipes exit behind both rear wheels.Not all that crazy about it.Too loud.On the highway its ok but lower speeds at least to me its LOUD.Don't think I'll live with it too long.The shop that did it specializes in restro autos/trucks and does really nice work.I'm going to talk to him in the next few days for another suggestion.Could not imagine using a 14 or 18 inch on a Hemi.Can hear MDS cut n and out and every downshift and such.

[DAYTONA81]

magnaflow is badazz

[Doc Fluty]

i had a flowmaster super 44 on my f150 and it was deeeeeeeep

i was mad because it was supposed to be the baddest loudest and it wasnt much louder than stock.. but it growled...

youtube it... it might be your style

[05RamtoughHEMI]

get yourself a Borla Pro XS #40349, single in/dual out, ran out the back, you will not regret it.

[TRXMudder]

Id suggest a Flowmaster 50 SUV. In my experience it has MUCH less drone than comparable Magnaflows and still has a very nice rumble to it.

[Mattones]

I plan on adding a new system to my truck. Glad you started this thread :)

[mongongo]

I sure have enjoyed my VORTEX by Cherry Bomb.

I get compliments and asked all the time what kind of muffler i have.

3 years ago I put it on and was told on this forum they were junk and they would not last. Well.............. Its still kicking and I still love the sound.

[h20man]

I just had the Borla Proxs installed this morning and though I only put 10 miles on it I like it so far. Its not loud at all but you can hear it when you step on it. I have the single out so maybe its a little quieter than duals.

[hounddogg]

Did you reuse the resonator?

[h20man]

Did you reuse the resonator?

Yes the resonator is still there. Just had the guy weld in the new muffler in place of the stock one. After a trip out tonight I am very pleased with the sound of the muffler. I was looking for a nice low end growl and didn't want the Flowmaster sound. Well I think the Borla does this perfectly, nice deep rumble at start up and when you hit the throttle. I only get a little drone when the MDS kicks in but not bad at all. Overall I am very pleased. Now on to intake and if only Mopar would release theirs.

[hounddogg]

Using the resonator I'm sure changes the tone of any muffler.Wonder what you'd think of Borla with out the factory resonator.

[Doc Fluty]

i have the borla on my duals and looooove it

[Heminut]

ANYONE: heard what the SS 14" magnaflow # 11219 3" in/out sounds like sans resonator ? They sell for $77...seems like a good choice ? Any site where i can klisten to one ? Thanks

[fatboi906]

i have a flowmaster 40 series on mine with no resonators (duals) and absolutely love it. it's loud but in a muscle car way, very throaty and deep...and when the gas is smashed people will look. When MDS kicks in... you can't tell, well i can't. we were just at the chrysler nationals in carlisle and while on the dyno ALOT of people were commenting on it

[plumcrazy73]

what kind of numbers did you post on the dyno

[mojoman]

Well, are you confuse yet on which muffler? I will tell you that I had the Flowmaster which was good and now I have Magnaflow which I like a little better but thats me. I got the one that have the built in X pipe and I do like how it sound.

[Heminut]

Go to the frig..load up on several kinds of cheeze,go to Flowmasters site and when ya click onto each muffler to hear them,stuff some cheeze(or cheese) in yer ear and then with some ham.....I remember putting limburger cheese on an wedding couple s 47 Hudson uner the seat heater...and my easy going Dad kickin my ass for what seemed like 3 days !

[Blackin]

I had Borla on my last Hemi and really loved the sound. But I'm going Magnaflow this round. Soon as my knee and such recoup from the wreck, and I'm able to actually drive my new truck... that'll be one of the first stops my truck makes. :)

[Adidas_kn]

I want to mod a Gibson Super Truck side exit exhaust to fit on mine. It's the style that exits in front of the rear tire with retangular tips.

[Heminut]

After talking to the engineer at flowmaster,I see the advantages that the new 50HD has .Anyone know of a sound clip that I can hear 3"in/out single would be great. Thanks

[hounddogg]

What were the advantages?

[Heminut]

the scavenge effect and that its an 4" internal muffler. It is strange that only flowmaster uses no packing or perforated internal pipe.

[Blackin]

Finally got to drive my new baby long enough to goto the local muffler shop. We discussed chopping the Y-pipe and going true-dual, but I had some muscle-relaxers and Hydrocodone in me, and he was mumbling something about warranty and catalytic converters and such and we basically just decided upon a straight muffler swap instead.

He strapped a Part#12288 SI/DO Magnaflow in there in place of the factory muffler. God what a night and day difference!! It's not obnoxious and wake the neighbors loud, but definately sounds mean now. In my opinion, that's what it SHOULD have sounded like from the factory with a 390hp Hemi and factory dual exhaust.

I'll get a sound clip or two later when I recouperate a little more.

If you're wanting to set off car alarms, piss off your neighbors, or turn every head in a half-mile radius, it's not the right muffler. If your wanting to have a deep rumble at idle, nice deep growl under normal acceleration and sound like a pissed-off cougar at WOT, then this is the way to go. :)

I'll get back to you on drone and highway speeds. Thusfar, I only got to hear it up to about 55mph for a few seconds here in town.

[hounddogg]

You left the resonators on it didn't you? You bought a 18 inch.I have a 24 inch Magnaflow with no resonators and its close to being obnoxious.

[Heminut]

sounmds like it is a nice setup. Awaiting the "sound clip" thanks.

[Blackin]

Yep, entire factory dual exhaust intact. Just cut the factory muffler off, inserted about a foot of stainless pipe and the Magnaflow.
Nothing fancy. Just now sounds like it was supposed to. :)

[Adidas_kn]

Had a used 3" I/O Flowmaster 50 HD welded in with a turndown and I must say it sounds awesome. Cost me $110 total, $60 for the muffler locally on craigslist and $50 for install. Not a bad investment. Sounds like a "Truckers Truck" now. Still going to find a nice angled dual stainless tip and have it routed out in front of the rear tire.

[cassbongard]

I've got a flowmaster 44 that dumps down about 3" after the muffler and its near obnoxious the way I like it. Its not quite scaring old ladies loud which i would love to have but ehhh I can live with it.

[Heminut]

Could you tell if MPG improved at all ? With gas coming close to $3 a gallon now,must consider ever aspect. Thanks.

[Adidas_kn]

I know my Mileage will suck this tank since I'm going to want to hear this muffler do it's job by gunning it every change I get. Gotta see if it made a HP difference. Thats just the way it goes. After that I'll check for improvements.

[Dodge4L1fe]

Magnaflow... :tup: Love my 5x11x22 #14589 SS muffler ;D

[Blackin]

Never ceases to amuse me seeing people buying full-size, v8 trucks talking like they're concerned about the price of gas. :)
You didn't go shopping for a Prius and they slipped that big ole truck in on your while you weren't looking did they?

[plumcrazy73]

no it is not that it is just that why burn more gas = spend more money when you don't have to.

[Doc Fluty]

yeha.. i dont really care all that much... but if i could find something that could save me 5 gallons or so on a full tank.. id jump on it.. that would be almost $40 a month... whatever the product it would pay for itself quick

[Blackin]

Again, if folks are at all concerned with gas, they're looking at the wrong kinds of vehicles. That's all I'm saying.

[Dodge4L1fe]

Again, if folks are at all concerned with gas, they're looking at the wrong kinds of vehicles. That's all I'm saying.

Agree... but it is nice to get increases in MPG with mods :tup:

[Blackin]

Can't argue with that. If something I upgrade helps save a buck or two along the way somehow, I'll take it without complaint. :)

[hounddogg]

I could have bought any truck I wanted price wise.I didn't. I am concerned about fuel mileage and cost of gas.At least this truck gets 5 plus mpg better then the 1998 318 in my signature.I have to make 140 mile round trip drives into Atlanta every few weeks.I don't drive my trucks.I also have a 06 Mercury Gran Marquis 4.6. It can and does get about 10mpg better then then the 09 Dodge.Thats what I drive on those trips.

[Willie0506]

I have a magnaflow 5x11x22. It sounds like you are describing. You can hardly hear it at 65. But if you get on it you can, sounds fricking sweet at 3000RPM. But I have mine dumbed under the box with no resonator. I think my setup makes it sound louder then it actually is. You may want a 5x6x24 if you want the resonators on.

Borla is also very good. It was very pricy when I compaired it too magnaflow, could be different now.

Side story: This weekend the wife and I were on a road trip to a wedding in Columbus NE. We got stuck behind a JackASS pulling a gooseneck trailer 45mph on a 60mph 2 lane road. Not a huge deal, except it was hilly and the dumb$hit was hogging the center lane. All in all I couldnt see around him to pass, and when I could I was in a no passing zone. So finally we get to a part in the road when the slower lane had a 3rd lane to go into, so I follow the guy for about a half mile cursing him thinking he will change lanes at some point, he knew I was back there. Well, he doesnt get over, so finally I just hammer it and pass him in the lane the slow traffic is suppose to be in. When I got on it the RPMs jumped to about 3000 (it sounded f-ing AWESOME)and my truck firmly planted us in our seats. When I got done with the pass my wife looked at me and said, "That made me a little wet. That was the coolest thing I've seen and heard your truck do." That was the best thing my wife has ever said about my truck, and when we got to Colombus she proved it. ;)

Best compliment I have heard about the Rams. There is a thread, I don't know if you hit that one up yet, definately one that needs to be there.

As for mufflers, I have true dual set up starting at my Magnaflow perf cats ==> E-cutouts ===> dual pipes ===> Cherry Bomb Extreme 2.5" si/so ===> 3" tips.

With the stock cats it was loud as hell. I could be literally heard from a mile away. With the Mag cats it is now a very deep very nice rumble. As soon as I can get my e-cutouts fixed/stop leaking I can post a video my set up. At the moment it doesn't sound as good as it should.

When I first got my truck I put Flowmasters on it. Sounded decent, but it wasn't quite what I was expecting or wanting. In retrospect I wish I had bought Magnaflow instead. A buddy of mine has an 07/08 Ram with a single Magnaflow on his truck. Very nice, probably closer to what you want for a quick and cheap swap.

[Heminut]

Up here in the mountains,gasoline is now $289 and rising. I knew it wasnt an mileage maker,but,it still dont hurt to try to be a bit frugal.

[Heminut]

WOW...an 50 HD flowmaster on craigslist fer $60 ? Best price I can find is around $140 and most want $177 + Was it an used unit ? Thanks.

[Adidas_kn]

Yup it was used and came from another Ram owner who thought it was too loud. Only had about 800miles on it.

[Heminut]

Any idea what mileage gains were realized ? Gas is close to $3 a gal here now..RATZ !

[hounddogg]

Don't know about any one else but I saw NO mileage gain with muffler swap.If anything it might have hurt it.I keep my foot in it a lot more because of the noise.LOL

[topgun]

Don't know about any one else but I saw NO mileage gain with muffler swap.If anything it might have hurt it.I keep my foot in it a lot more because of the noise.LOL

I agree. Installed a Mufflex Magnaflow on my 09, no MPG gain. Didn't really expect any though as the Cat Back I installed on my 05 Hemi actually lost MPGs.

[Heminut]

Yeah...I have tried to live with ERF(evil right foot) for over 55 years of driving + the great response of the Hemi is hard to leave alone.....kinda like having a hotpants girl out and tring to take her home early. LOL

[Doc Fluty]

lol @ hotpants girl

thats classic!

[Heminut]

Did you notice any mileage gain ? I did a search ..."mileage increases with flowqmaster 50 HD and over half reponded well. I am leaning that way,but,price is my biggest hurddle right now.When you make lots of $ ,then retire...its pretty hard to have to wait just because of this .

[hounddogg]

I have monitored my mileage on a 100 mile round trip numerous times.Have tried 87/89/91 octane fuel and the muffler swap.It seems to have increased a very slight amount and I think its due to miles/break in more then anything.On my 03 Diesel.I did a Banks four inch exhaust swap from turbo outlet back and saw a INSTANT 1 plus mpg gain.No so with a muffler swap to a 24 inch Magnaflow XL two out muffler.I'll stay say my truck is LOUD.No resonators.Now a exhaust swap including headers and such I bet there would be a noticeable gain.My 1998 1500(just sold it last night) with 318 I did headers,muffler,modified throttle body/Harlan Sharp roller rockers(more cam lift)and a Super Chips performance download and it went from 15 TOPS or there abouts to barely 17 driving it easy.

[soapy]

I put MBRP on my Challenger and love the sound. If they make a system for the new ram I will go with them. The MBRP sound on the 6.1 is very deep and you do not get the drone at 75 like many muffl.ers produce. Magnaflows on my SRT10 have a drone at 75

[hounddogg]

I have noticed no drone.Have tried cruising a different speeds and drone is not a issue.Its low speeds.Its somewhat loud.Haven't towed with it yet.

[Heminut]

I too,thought that with the computer,any decision to use other than reg gasoline was foolish,but, 3 times I went back to reg and the MPG dropped to 14,so I do use 89 octane. If the cost went back to around $2 a gallon,I wouldnt care so much,but its close to $3 and that does make a difference when on fixed income.I have been so spoiled for so long when working and never even checked mileage and am kinda reluctant to even mention it.Thanks for the info.Have fun !

[Heminut]

Love yer attitude Doc ! I always tell anyone who asks,"what is the best advice you have oldtimer" ? I say,"On the last day,when brushing yer teeth,if you didnt do things you wanted,the person responsible is looking at ya "!

[oldpianos]

I just had an excelerator VX series muffler installed today. It's just about exactly the sound I was looking for. www.apexhaust.com

[Skiman94]

When I had my 2003 Dakota, I had an Aeroturbine muffler installed. I took it to Maxwell Dodge in 2006 for a meet and put it on the dyno. When they revved it up, Dodge techs came running out of nowhere asking me if I had put a Hemi in there because it sounded so good. I'm gonna change my profile soon, I've got an '09 silver Hemi 2WD 4DR and when I get the money I'll put my Aeroturbine in.

[hounddogg]

4dr? Quad or Crew?

[Doc Fluty]

Love yer attitude Doc ! I always tell anyone who asks,"what is the best advice you have oldtimer" ? I say,"On the last day,when brushing yer teeth,if you didnt do things you wanted,the person responsible is looking at ya "!

that about sums it up

[Heminut]

My 02 Dakota with the 4.7 sounded real good too. I built my own flowmaster after looking at their diagrams using an piece of 4" aluminized pipe,placing 4 "vanes of 3/4" angle welded in the front and rear simular to what flowmasters looked like. It was well recivced and When asked if it was an "flowmaster",I would reply,"No...its a Blowmaster because my last name is Blow. Good for lots of laughs + 2 MPG and it snarled when ya laid into it ! Maybe,I should just do my own again? Somehow,I think flowmasters engineers,having talked to them,put some serious time into the scavange effect,so I am going with the 50 HD as it was the best MPG gains of all of my inquiries online.

[hemipowerv8]

ok - I have a 2007 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi Sport 4x4 that I have been running a Flo-Pro muffler on for 2 years and want more "Flowmaster" tone - going to just swap the muffler - have dual 2.5" out the back with black powdercoated tips that stay...

looking at the 50 series HD as it was made for the Hemi but I feel this is a bit quiet and will be almost the same as what I have...I don't want it to sound muddy and overly loud...the Flo-pro is pretty tame and smooth and honestly sounds pretty good - but I have had Flowmasters on ALL of my trucks until this one so wanting to turn it up some...
I think I want to go with a Super 40 so it has enough backpressure for the Hemi to still make torque and still DEEP tone and flowmaster note separation that no other exhaust seems to match/beat.
I think Super 44 would be a BIT too open/loud and 40 original I had on my 05 and prefered the super 40 I had on my 04.

Anyone out there have Super 40 on 06 or newer Dodge Ram Hemi and have a soundclip or comments?

[Heminut]

HemipowerV8 : I was torn between the super 40 and the 50HD until I read all of the MPG gains on about 6 or 8 sites.I have tons of power with the 3.92's and just want a bit more mileage.I have gotten 19 on cruise on flat interstate,but,here in north Penna.,the land of old farts who drive 40 and have 3-6 cars behind so close,you just can not pass.The Hemi dont like 40 mph and the mileage drops off anything under 60....close down to around 50,but at anything under that,it drops from 1-2 MPG.I have an K&N flat direct replacement which helped about 1 mpg.I couldnt see going a full tube to a cone type as no way to "seal" and underhood heat would defeat the purpose.Power,as I said,wasnt a problem. I wacked the resonator off and welded in a straight pipe of aluminized steel and that sounds a little better.I thought about cutting the end off the stock muffler,cutting out baffels etc,but,as Flowmaster has been on the last 8-10 vehicles Ive had with good results and the fact that even tho others may sound good,most are simply an glasspack with different shaped cases.I plan on keeping this truck for at least 10 years,assuming we still have a country(hate obama)and can get gas.I am 68 and probally only have around 10 years anyhow,but,plan on leaving my younger wife a dependable vehicle. She too,loves the power and after 22 years with me dragging her to all sorts of car shows,NHRA,and every other car/truck event from Calif.to Fla. to Penna.,she wont have an stock puny vehicle as my sons will see to that.I am going to go with the 50 HD...good luck !

[CumminsCowboy97]

Go with the cherry bomb extreme its a single chamber design they give a nice rumble down low and when you lay into real hard you'll get a little bit of a cackle(not anywhere as loud as a straight pipe cackle) i've ran these before and they do not resonate too bad in the cab, i had them on a 92 bronco and a few of my friends have them on their 4.7's and on their hemi's and they sound pretty good

[Willie0506]

I absolutely love my Cherry Bomb Extremes. Just my couple of cents.

[Heminut]

You guys get any mileage gains ? Any place I can go to hear them like youtube ? Thanks

[ranjr]

HemipowerV8 : I was torn between the super 40 and the 50HD until I read all of the MPG gains on about 6 or 8 sites.I have tons of power with the 3.92's and just want a bit more mileage.I have gotten 19 on cruise on flat interstate,but,here in north Penna.,the land of old farts who drive 40 and have 3-6 cars behind so close,you just can not pass.The Hemi dont like 40 mph and the mileage drops off anything under 60....close down to around 50,but at anything under that,it drops from 1-2 MPG.I have an K&N flat direct replacement which helped about 1 mpg.I couldnt see going a full tube to a cone type as no way to "seal" and underhood heat would defeat the purpose.Power,as I said,wasnt a problem. I wacked the resonator off and welded in a straight pipe of aluminized steel and that sounds a little better.I thought about cutting the end off the stock muffler,cutting out baffels etc,but,as Flowmaster has been on the last 8-10 vehicles Ive had with good results and the fact that even tho others may sound good,most are simply an glasspack with different shaped cases.I plan on keeping this truck for at least 10 years,assuming we still have a country(hate obama)and can get gas.I am 68 and probally only have around 10 years anyhow,but,plan on leaving my younger wife a dependable vehicle. She too,loves the power and after 22 years with me dragging her to all sorts of car shows,NHRA,and every other car/truck event from Calif.to Fla. to Penna.,she wont have an stock puny vehicle as my sons will see to that.I am going to go with the 50 HD...good luck !

Wow, I feel like I just read your autobiography.

[Heminut]

Never mind...I found them..not impressed and still going to go flowmaster 50 HD.Thanks for the replies.

[krs]

I have the 4.7 and did a direct replacement with a magnaflow muffler and it sounds great. I can barely hear it at 60 but sounds loud and deep like any flowmaster on acceleration and low cruising speeds. Hope that helps! Oh by the way there is a guy on here looking to buy a hemi stock muffler, his user name is Krs

Thats me, still looking for one..Thanks

[Heminut]

krs: I will have one shortly..off my 09 Ram .What is it worth to you ? I usually just give something like that to my friend where i do the exhaust work as he treats me so good,but,I am open to offers.

[krs]

pm sent

[Heminut]

My bad..I was asking about if a clubcab and just hadn't looked at the photo of your 4 door truck.Sorry...just gettin old I guess.

[Heminut]

I returned your PM about 10:30 Pm EST and guess you went to diner ?

[krs]

Sorry about that, pm replied back.

[Heminut]

Can we please comunicate via my reg. email from now on ? My firewalls dont like that PM forum for some reason .Thanks PS..found the 4.7 article and just printed it for ya.

[cwoposey]

I have the 14" Magnaflow. It is makes the Hemi sound like it has 390hp. I love it.

[Dodge4L1fe]

I have the 14" Magnaflow. It is makes the Hemi sound like it has 390hp. I love it.

How's the drone with that muffler?

[cwoposey]

Not bad. At first it was worse before the muffler "broke-in",
or maybe I've gotten used to it!

[Z mann R2]

HemipowerV8 : I was torn between the super 40 and the 50HD until I read all of the MPG gains on about 6 or 8 sites.I have tons of power with the 3.92's and just want a bit more mileage.I have gotten 19 on cruise on flat interstate,but,here in north Penna.,the land of old farts who drive 40 and have 3-6 cars behind so close,you just can not pass.The Hemi dont like 40 mph and the mileage drops off anything under 60....close down to around 50,but at anything under that,it drops from 1-2 MPG.I have an K&N flat direct replacement which helped about 1 mpg.I couldnt see going a full tube to a cone type as no way to "seal" and underhood heat would defeat the purpose.Power,as I said,wasnt a problem. I wacked the resonator off and welded in a straight pipe of aluminized steel and that sounds a little better.I thought about cutting the end off the stock muffler,cutting out baffels etc,but,as Flowmaster has been on the last 8-10 vehicles Ive had with good results and the fact that even tho others may sound good,most are simply an glasspack with different shaped cases.I plan on keeping this truck for at least 10 years,assuming we still have a country(hate obama)and can get gas.I am 68 and probally only have around 10 years anyhow,but,plan on leaving my younger wife a dependable vehicle. She too,loves the power and after 22 years with me dragging her to all sorts of car shows,NHRA,and every other car/truck event from Calif.to Fla. to Penna.,she wont have an stock puny vehicle as my sons will see to that.I am going to go with the 50 HD...good luck !


Will you report on how it sounds when you get it....I want the flowmaster sound but I want the quietest one they have......Is the 50HD one of their quietest?

[Z mann R2]

I think I want the 70 Series Big Block II Flowmaster....3 chamber

or the 50HD but I just don't want ANY drone inside the cab....

[Heminut]

50 HD is real quiet on internal resonance...look at the muffler chart where it shows the super 44 loudest and goes down to the 70 or 80 series. I didnt get to install mine today as my guy has an terrible jaw ache and was on his way to the dentist. I will let ya know soon.

[Z mann R2]

Awesome thx....is our trucks 3" inlet/outlet?

[joePA]

Just had the Borla Pro XS #40349 installed today. First impression is WOW. Think I'm gonna like it. It is louder than I expected. I had the Borla cat-back on the Tona Ram (factory). This is much louder, but I do believe I will like it in the long run.

Took a 10 mile drive and stopped at Lowes. Thought my truck was on fire. The smell was killer and smoke pouring out of the pipes. LOL So I went for about another 40 mile cruise to burn it out. Still smell it in my sinuses......

Wouldn't want to tow with it - I don't think. In a couple of weeks I should know for sure.

The tips could have a better finish on them. Should have gotten the Borla tips also. Guess I'll get some jewelers rouge and see if I can improve them. Anyone know a better method of polishing them (stainless)?

[Heminut]

Make sure...the techs at flowmaster told me that the 50 HD was designed for the Hemi and that Dodge has done a fantastic job on the stock muffler.Prices run allover and autoanything is by far the cheapest.

[Z mann R2]

OK I ordered the 70 Series big block II.....just want a mellow sound.....I'll report on it next week

[hounddogg]

Why not the ONE DESIGNED for the Hemi?

[Z mann R2]

cuz it's LOUD....reviews I read say it's got a bit of drone inside

[hounddogg]

Gotcha.The Magnaflow 24 inch XL I used is LOUD also.

[Heminut]

Some of these critics may just be narrowminded because if you differ with what they have,your wrong.I have no problem with guys liking duals,Magnaflows or Mufflex etc,+ this muffler is just like in the early days when everyone used "glasspacks' which to me were tinny and loud.Enter the "steelpack" around 1956 and the mellow sound was perfect..mostly because it made any motor sound deep and really powerful.It also warded off the cops who used to be deadly on any sound...if ya soft pedalled it out of town,then let her roll,that wonderful deep sound evolved.I had an 48 Chevie Convert with an 6 stovebolt with an vette head with dual carbs and split manifold home built headers...glasspacks were very loud,just like any less amount of cylinders make more pulses per hoursepower like some snarly little 4 bangers do.I hope that 70 series is good for you,for me after driving y'all nutz,I feel very good. I changed those chevie splits to steelies and the cops left me alone..most of the time. Have fun !

[joePA]

Some of these critics may just be narrowminded because if you differ with what they have,your wrong.I have no problem with guys liking duals,Magnaflows or Mufflex etc,+ this muffler is just like in the early days when everyone used "glasspacks' which to me were tinny and loud.Enter the "steelpack" around 1956 and the mellow sound was perfect..mostly because it made any motor sound deep and really powerful.It also warded off the cops who used to be deadly on any sound...if ya soft pedalled it out of town,then let her roll,that wonderful deep sound evolved.I had an 48 Chevie Convert with an 6 stovebolt with an vette head with dual carbs and split manifold home built headers...glasspacks were very loud,just like any less amount of cylinders make more pulses per hoursepower like some snarly little 4 bangers do.I hope that 70 series is good for you,for me after driving y'all nutz,I feel very good. I changed those chevie splits to steelies and the cops left me alone..most of the time. Have fun !

Dude, don't ya know you can't talk about Bowties on here.........Your rules.....LOL.

Hope your new pipes work for ya. I love the new Borla. So does the wife and the neighbors. Sounds like a real V8, not a shit box with a fart can muffler. Hell, some of the junk around here sound like a LawnBoy with a burnt spark plug...........;)

[mojoman]

I guess that it's whatever a person like. Everything don't work for everybody so if you like it just enjoy and be happy. If you not happy well then life is meaningness

[joePA]

I guess that it's whatever a person like. Everything don't work for everybody so if you like it just enjoy and be happy. If you not happy well then life is meaningness
You are absolutely correct. The problem with folks listening to sound clips is that it is totally different than "living" with the product.

I have installed some products and later remove cuz it was not what I thought it would be. I guess we have all done that, though.

[mojoman]

You are absolutely correct. The problem with folks listening to sound clips is that it is totally different than "living" with the product.

I have installed some products and later remove cuz it was not what I thought it would be. I guess we have all done that, though.

Yes I know I have it was so that when I was getting my header for my 06 ram I ask a question and got some good info but my head was going around and around I didn't know what to go with. I went and did some more search and found what I wanted to go with and did it. I find out that you can get the best but you will find out that it's not really the best good maybe but not the best.

I love what I have it's not the best but I like it just the same. Now if I had to do over again which not too soon I hope. I would do a little differ but I like it.

[Heminut]

Know what ya mean Joe. There is an burnt valve chevie that has the worst sound I ever heard,he runs it wide open and it spits,fartz,coughs,misses,catches,runs a few feet,then .....its is nutz.I saw the kid at the postoffice one day. I said,why dont ya stop over and let me do a check or 2 for ya and maybe we can getya fixed up. He looks at me like Im green and says,"My uncle tunes it up and he was a real racer"! Ijust walked away.......his truck still misses ... even more now ? I had Borlas on one motorcycle,but,it was back 30 or 65 years ago....if ya know what I mean. Dang...hate being old ! Have fun.

[joePA]

I love what I have it's not the best but I like it just the same. Now if I had to do over again which not too soon I hope. I would do a little differ but I like it.
We all have those "OOPS" moments. I just had the muffler/tails installed. Bought the tailpipes sight unseen. Not the best. Wish I had something else, but the are welded in so I'll live with them for now. Perhaps change someday - but spent enough for now..........Life goes on, but the truck sounds good.

[Heminut]

Ya got me Joe.LOL I never meant to be such an old tightass...just have listened to so much crap and its about everything and everywheres. Have you ever heard of anyone having the cops ,local or staties ,stopping folks for loud exhaust around yer neck o the woods ? I just heard that a local hiilbillie went to Philly and was just gettin on the xway and a cop,already giving a ticket,ripped out and nailed him for "Non-standard exhaust" a term I have never heard of in my 68+ years? Dang,sure hope Penna. dont go back to the caveman days where anything other than stock was illegal. We all have to keep each other informed....I have a crippled cousin who is an artist.He cant hardly move anymore so,I go to either Buffalo or Pittsburgh and get these big sheets of stuff for him. Have fun !

[joePA]

Ya got me Joe.LOL I never meant to be such an old tightass...just have listened to so much crap and its about everything and everywheres. Have you ever heard of anyone having the cops ,local or staties ,stopping folks for loud exhaust around yer neck o the woods ? I just heard that a local hiilbillie went to Philly and was just gettin on the xway and a cop,already giving a ticket,ripped out and nailed him for "Non-standard exhaust" a term I have never heard of in my 68+ years? Dang,sure hope Penna. dont go back to the caveman days where anything other than stock was illegal. We all have to keep each other informed....I have a crippled cousin who is an artist.He cant hardly move anymore so,I go to either Buffalo or Pittsburgh and get these big sheets of stuff for him. Have fun !
I think they are supposed to do a DB test, however, PoPo can pretty much do what ever they want; then you have to fight it.

I figure as long as I don't get caught street racing and don't slam the skinny pedal everytime I pull out I should be OK. BUT - depends on the local PD's. I also have 20% front tint. Not legal in PA - but WTF - did my military time, 60 years old, pay my taxes; so they can kiss my ass. I can afford the fine.....;)

ALSO - my Bro-in-law is a local and sez I'm not legal - but he don't care. I don't rob banks or sell drugs..........

[Heminut]

thank you for your service. I am like you.I did my time,got extended for the danged cuba missle crisis,then was havin to teach first aide in Philly while my reg training was for electronics tech..I got caught so many times for street racin( my girlfriend had 5 brothers,all south philly cops...but,the judge told the Navy to do something...they asked me what I wanted...I said,to go back to Potter county...next day,I was discharged ! Havin to softpedal it is old news to us guys from the backward state. Still cant buy beer in a grocery store ! Anyhow,thanks for the update....if ya ever come up to Potter,watch it around Coudersport,the county seat,the staties are thicker that czars at the whitehouse !

[SnowDogs]

I think they are supposed to do a DB test, however, PoPo can pretty much do what ever they want; then you have to fight it.

I figure as long as I don't get caught street racing and don't slam the skinny pedal everytime I pull out I should be OK. BUT - depends on the local PD's. I also have 20% front tint. Not legal in PA - but WTF - did my military time, 60 years old, pay my taxes; so they can kiss my ass. I can afford the fine.....;)

ALSO - my Bro-in-law is a local and sez I'm not legal - but he don't care. I don't rob banks or sell drugs..........

I have a friend that used to live in Blairsville and the local police knew him and his brother very well. He had a terribly loud Ford pickup and did get a ticket for the noise, faught the ticket and before his date at the magistrate changed back to the stock system. He showed the magistrate and got out of it, went back home and put the loud pipes right back on. I think his 'mufflers' were hollowed out glasspacks it is so loud. I would think as long as you weren't doing anything stupid and you had a nice sounding truck you wouldn't have a problem. I had a 75 Trans Am in the 80's with 10.75/1 compression, headers, dual exhaust with no cat, turbo mufflers and never had a problem. I did have one statie turn around when i was driving home from Keystone drag strip with open headers. Had to make a quick trip to the garage and turn the lights out really quick while he was turning around.

Give a shout if you get down around Pittsburgh way Heminut.

[Heminut]

thanks for the invite...I do go to Pittsburgh for my cousin every once in a while.I like yer story about the lights out and the statie....back in late 65 with the A990 car(65 Coronet with acid dipped body,426 Hemi,no back seat,about 14 stickers saying "NOT LEGAL FOR STREET USE...RACING ONLY" and while still on pump gas with the 8 Algon injectors sticking up thru the hood,a 2lb fiberglass chromed bumper,4lb alum fenders and total weight of 2800 lbs,we took her out onto Rt 155..no lights(they were painted on)and open headers,we "made a pass"...just as we get to the end of the 1/4...he comes a trooper right at us...kill the engine and he was going about 75+ and didnt even see us until right after he passed us...he whipped into a driveway,backing up hitting his lights and whaler siren and gives chase,we meanwhile make an 180 too and hit the switch and going right back at him about 160 with the front wheels just touching...we pass him and he was so intent and probally hitting around 100+,but,that second stop was way too much fer his brakes and they locked up and slid him into a ditch...we,still no lights rip back into our drive and into the shop and not a whimper of a light,kill the motor and wait....backup arrives and now the first cop gets his unit outta the ditch and they are screamin up and down the road with their spotlights waving...meanwhile we are trying to get the HOT hemi to stop the "crackin" as it cools down...finally,the cops leave and at 4:30 am,I fire up my 67 GTX and cruise back up 155 towards Eldred.The moment I hit town,the local clown is on me close...I am kool and maintain the speed limit acting dumb which is a gift of mine.He radios the troopers,they pull me over and want to know where,why,who etc....I say..I worked over and am just headed home...to Coudy,which is another 30 miles and I actually live in Rochester NY,but,i kept my Penna lic plate for 7 years, and used to run the 130 miles to work on the Racer many nights.....finally,after they call waking Mom..and having her catch on quickly,saying"Thank God,I thought you were saying he was in an accident....We never pulled that again,but, a friend from Kane, Pa. (the copshop the troopers were from)said those troopers thought it was everything but what it was..Jags,BMW,Ferrairis,...have any of those ever sounded like an injected Elephant ?I carried 5-7 licences for over 45 years.Each time in a state working,I found a way to get em,then using the neighbors address,kept them for 6-8 years...everyone said the computers would get me...never did...I lost my licence quite a bit...not dropped...suspended. What fun we used to have.

[Z mann R2]

So Heminut you put in the 50HD yet?

My 70 series will be here tomorrow, maybe if I have time I can stop by the muffler shop that same day......I think I'm gonna do a direct swap and leave the stock tailpipe w/resonator in place. I have a feeling MDS mode will sound like shit without it

[Heminut]

As you are aware of,I had removed my resanator beforeI put the muffler on....today,at very low RPM,still in drive,I noticed a slight burble,so I simply downshifted via the autostick 2 gears and the deep mellow sound comes right back.My wife even asked,"What was that ?"...I said,if ya dont like it,do as I did.She says,no it wasnt unpleaseant,just different. She has driven most everything Ive owned for the past 22 years including some leaky catchboxes from header motors and even a couple of homebuilt flowmasters..I called em Blowmasters as that my last name....Large dia. tube with some 4" vanes welded in at various angles...not too bad of a sound,but,once when flowing an old lady,I hooked the 02 Dakota into low and as i ripped by her,she looked terrified because this setup was really loud.Now,for the better news as after getting 20.4MPG that first day and 18.8-19 stady,I got that day of 16.8-17.4 er so ?? Today,I drove very effectively for me,keeping it on cruise at 62-65 and it went back up to a steady 18.5-19.6...so it looks like I am now getting about2MPG increase.The last 50 miles home,I wacked it a few time using 4th and passing cars at almost wideopen throttle+ climber an 3000+ hill going back...it dropped,but,only to 17.9 and then steady climb back up to 18.8.It definately helped.Good luck.

[Heminut]

Hi CCorbett: I was going to sell my new Hemi stock muffler to KRS and we discussed as he wants it for his 4.7 in Calif....I am unable to find a way to get to the PMs where we were discussing it.Can you contact him..or show me how I get to the PM's ? .By the way,the price on this muffler is $300 at Dodge and I told him $90...if I dont hear from him soon,I will see if anyone here want it or ebay it. Thanks.

[Z mann R2]

I replaced my factory muffler with a Flowmaster 70 Series Big Block II. It's one of the quietest mufflers they make.....which is perfect for me because I wanted no interior drone. It sounds AWESOME!! Nice and deep and throaty when you give it throttle and you can REALLY hear the Hemi working good......and cuts away to a nice dull rumble as your cruising that you can barely hear inside. Love it! Finished it off with a stainless 3.5 inch tip coming out the same angle that the stock one was

http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/admin/shelter/uploads_prod_cat/family_of_mufflers.png

[hounddogg]

Did you use the reasonator?

[Z mann R2]

yes stock resonator is still on....

I couldn't be happier. Any louder and I would last maybe a few months before I replaced it. I just really wanted something mellow. I've had the loud crap for years and I'm done with that.

When MDS kicks in, it doesn't sound bad when your cruising. Accelerating though while in MDS is when you start to hear it. Not a bad sound like heminut said, just a lower tone and louder gurgle. But goes away once you stop accelerating. It's amazing that turning cylinders off will increase the sound.

Thanks for the replies guys! I didn't go with the top choice in the poll though and I'm sorry but maybe sometime down the road if I wanna change her up a lil I'll make a switch a few years from now

[Heminut]

KOOL... glad yer happy.Thats what really counts.

[hounddogg]

The stock resonator makes all these mufflers sound different then without.A lot quieter I would think.Not sure if thats a good assisment of a muffler or not as you are changing noise level and flow of its design.

[Heminut]

NOT SO AMAZING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT...a single exhaust is a bit quieter than duals as is a 4 cyl because of the sound pulses coming slower at a given RPM/gear.Myself,I cant tell,nor can any other riders or drivers, when MDS kicks in.Must have something to do with young ears ?

[Z mann R2]

wait....you can't hear a difference when MDS kicks in on your 50HD?

[Heminut]

ZmanR2...no sir..I can not,nor,as I said can my wife or even my granddaughter (11) hear it so far. I did tell y'all about the "burble" if the RPMs get real low while still in Drive,but,a couple quick wacks left on the shifter to drop it a gear er 2 and it sounds normal. I have tried very hard to "hear" that MDS sound y'all hear...nope.

[hounddogg]

I sure hear MDS with my Magnaflow and no resonator's.

[Z mann R2]

ZmanR2...no sir..I can not,nor,as I said can my wife or even my granddaughter (11) hear it so far. I did tell y'all about the "burble" if the RPMs get real low while still in Drive,but,a couple quick wacks left on the shifter to drop it a gear er 2 and it sounds normal. I have tried very hard to "hear" that MDS sound y'all hear...nope.

hmmmmm very interesting......Man I wish I could hear the difference between yours and mine in person....I posted a sound clip of mine....how bout you do the same?

[Heminut]

Sounds good(pun intended) as soon as we get our digital camera fixed. My wife dropped it off at an technician and should be back soon.

[Z mann R2]

K cuz now I'm slowly wanting something more outta mine....lol!! shit

[Heminut]

Hey ZmanR2: Ya live in our favorite towm in Texas and your wife looks a lot like mine did when I met her except,she gave me the black eye ! How,where,do I find that sound clip ? Member,iam an old fart and not too swift on these here newfanggled gadgets...walk me to my prison...no wait...to the sound clip. Heminut

[joePA]

K cuz now I'm slowly wanting something more outta mine....lol!! shit

Haven't we all been down that road? OK - apples to oranges here but the Borla is super sweet on the trucks with the duals. And I thank Doc Flutey for his input/insight on this.

To me the word "drone" describes a noise level that is irritating in the cab. With mine, it has a nice somewhat loud, deep throaty level. However, when driving it is acceptable. When on the gas softly (like on the highway) it isn't noticeable at all. Only when punched for passing does it kick in.

I usually drive with the moon roof opened at the rear, the rear slider opened (or half opened) and the front and rear windows cracked to the ends of the air shields (about one inch).

Thus I hear the stereo without much wind noise, can carry on a conversation, and only hear the exhaust when on the gas - not bothersome at all.

Stock res remained, only Borla installed with some pipe due to size length difference, and longer tips put on (for show).

How would that affect a SI/SO - beats me...........

However, I have always been a fan of Borla - I like the sound.

Unfortunately sound clips via the net don't mean crap because all media and recording devices are not on the "same page" so to speak.

A Bro of mine went with Flows and no res and after 2 months went back to stock cuz of the MDS drone. Mine is SWEET! No MDS noise.

Good luck Bro.

[Z mann R2]

I have no drone whatsoever in MDS or not with this 70 Series Big Block II....I just notice a deeper tone when it kicks in....it actually sounds really good.....I'm simply saying that I think I might want my truck to be a bit louder now.....it actually sounds great IMO

here's my sound clip heminut.....I like it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ycUl8VgcWw

[hounddogg]

Did you use the reasonator?

[Z mann R2]

Did you use the reasonator?

ya....you can see it right there in the video

[hounddogg]

Wonder what it sounds like without it.

[Z mann R2]

Wonder what it sounds like without it.

me too

[Willie0506]

My truck with the new cats and no cutouts (sealed off untill the both motors are repaired)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A1O6lzDCF4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJefkQjvccY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whPOJjrD59I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5bjQ69j950

[hounddogg]

Sounds like a old 60s something with a glass pack. YUK. Sorry.

[hemiwicked]

I have scheduled for monday nov 23 to have flowmaster 50 series(dual) installed on my 09, can't wait

[hemisphere2]

I still love my 24'' muflex magnaflow!

[Rambo2u]

I still love my 24'' muflex magnaflow!

Hey Hemisphere2...did you get the retrofit muflex DOD 24 and leave the resonators on? I'm looking for that deep rumble as well without being too loud. Decisions...decisions...Borla or Magnaflow, this is fun!

[myoung84]

I have the Magnaflow 18", same muffler used in the Mufflex, but I bought the muffler only and had it welded on. For me it's not loud enough with the resonators still in place. I am wishing I went with the 14". I may remove the resonators before long. I had this same muffler on my old 4.7L Ram and it was much louder. The 18" is just a little louder than stock, but does sound very good.

[fastmopar]

Hemiwicked

Did you get the 50 series HD flowmaster installed yet? How do you like it? Did you keep the resonators or remove them?

[Heminut]

Yer gonna like them ! I have just the single exhaust because we live in north country where a single pipe will "dry out" and duals wont .I love the sound and so does the wife + all my neighbors. ENJOY !

[hemisphere2]

Hey Hemisphere2...did you get the retrofit muflex DOD 24 and leave the resonators on? I'm looking for that deep rumble as well without being too loud. Decisions...decisions...Borla or Magnaflow, this is fun!

Yes and yes, I left the resonators on.....pull the stock muffler off and slide the new magnaflow on......easiest install I've ever done for an exhaust! The 24'' is not much louder than stock, but I notice it getting louder by getting some miles on it. But it does have a deeper growl than the stock can. I've had magnaflow cherry bomb and flowmaster, and I like the magnaflow the best for that deep throaty sound. :D

[HEMIOUTLAW]

just bought an Aero 3030 will have it installed on Dec 28th, getting it turned out in front of rear tire with single walled tip , same set up that i had on my 06and loved it. I had aero 3030, then flowmaster 44, then cherry bomb extreme , and went back to the aero, loudest of all three in my opinion I vote Aero 3030 and my buddy in jersey who will do the install will 2nd it, but he is Found On Road Dead alot tho.

[Rambo2u]

Thanks Hemisphere2...this "sounds" like exactly what I'm looking for! Did you order it, if so, from whom?

[hemisphere2]

I ordered mine through BSM Exhaust Works.

[Rambo2u]

I ordered mine through BSM Exhaust Works.

Perfect....I have this muffler bookmarked from their website! Ordering soon! Thanks again!

[Z mann R2]

Just an update.....I LOVE my Flowmaster 70 series big block II....I used to want a louder one but now I just think this one is friggin perfect!! Smooth, deep, and a low rumble that isn't too loud

[mydak]

I have the mufflex 14" and LOVE it.

[chad103]

bout to order the whole maganaflow cat back system for 09 ram 1500 5.7 HEMI. Its 5X 11 X 22 muffler, the part number is 16869 if any one wants to look it up. Im looking for a deep smooth tone nothing to loud. Had flowmaster and cherry bomb in the past but both were turn downs. Have CAI, throttle body, and bully dogg GT tunner already now got to get some air out. Any thoughts might help ill be ordering soon.

[vudaddy]

Flowmaster 40 Series Dual turn downs....Only the best sound ever lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmg1lZOj_4

[bob1340]

Flowmaster 40 Series Dual turn downs....Only the best sound ever lol



That's nice.

Can you be more specific on what you have?
Is it the single inlet/dual outlet 40?
Did you remove the resonators?

I have always liked the sound and price of the Flowmasters. I've used them for 30 years on my junk and have never had any issues with them.

[vudaddy]

That's nice.

Can you be more specific on what you have?
Is it the single inlet/dual outlet 40?
Did you remove the resonators?

I have always liked the sound and price of the Flowmasters. I've used them for 30 years on my junk and have never had any issues with them.

sorry about that...yes they are single in/dual out 40s turndowns and i removed the resonators... didnt think about keeping them untill i heard the MDS kick in, but not enough to bother me they still sound great!!!:D
ps. got them for 135 installed cant beat that price:cheerl:

[Heminut]

Mighty purty Vudaddy....why isnt your decal like mine? Mine says TRX 4 ?Isnt your Ram 4x4 ? I dont remember seeing just TRX before? Purty sounds tho !

[vudaddy]

Mighty purty Vudaddy....why isnt your decal like mine? Mine says TRX 4 ?Isnt your Ram 4x4 ? I dont remember seeing just TRX before? Purty sounds tho !

:bawl: nope its not a 4x4 its a long story...lets just say i tore my last 4x4 up and needed to trade it in quick as possible and my credit union only approved me for the amount that i got my TRX for it came with the flares,upgraded shocks,tow hooks etc...if i could i would go back and get another 4x4 big mistake on my part...but still im happy that I got a RAM:D

[Rambo2u]

I ordered mine through BSM Exhaust Works.

Ordered mine from BSM and got an email from Jason yesterday that it's on the way. I'm so ready. Thanks again for your input!

[Analog Man]

Have you ever heard of anyone having the cops, local or staties, stopping folks for loud exhaust around yer neck o the woods?Well ... yeah. As a smartass teenager running dual Thrush "tin cans" with side exits I actually heard of it "in writing" on more than one occasion.

But your point is really pretty accurate - most of the time it's a result of them wanting to stop you for whatever reason and not being able to come up with anything else to write you up for, or else something to use to pile on with one or two other minor violations.

[Rambo2u]

I received the Magaflow Mufflex 24" retrofit muffler from BSM Exhaust Works today...took right at an hour to change it out...WOW! It is just what I wanted! A deep growl at start-up with a low rumble at idle...you gotta love it! Thanks Jason for your excellent customer service...I am a happy customer!

[hemiwicked]

I get my Borla duals installed next Friday, whoo-hooo!

[BSM Exhaust]

Thanks for the plug David, Im glad you like it. Thanks for the support.

[SRT2Sport]

I received the Magaflow Mufflex 24" retrofit muffler from BSM Exhaust Works today...took right at an hour to change it out...WOW! It is just what I wanted! A deep growl at start-up with a low rumble at idle...you gotta love it! Thanks Jason for your excellent customer service...I am a happy customer!

How does it sound when MDS kicks in? I just ordered the 18" based on rave reviews from most on here. I hope that I dont wish I would have got the 24" instead.

[Rambo2u]

I haven't noticed any drone but that may be from not letting it kick in....can't keep my foot out of it! I bought one of the early 09's which doesn't have the evic display for when MDS activates. For me it's probably a mental thing...but it seems much more responsive with the new can. The 24" is just a little louder than the oem but the deeper tone makes the difference. If you're looking for more rumble then the 18" is for you. Jason at BSM Exhaust Works can hook you right up!

[SRT2Sport]

I haven't noticed any drone but that may be from not letting it kick in....can't keep my foot out of it! I bought one of the early 09's which doesn't have the evic display for when MDS activates. For me it's probably a mental thing...but it seems much more responsive with the new can. The 24" is just a little louder than the oem but the deeper tone makes the difference. If you're looking for more rumble then the 18" is for you. Jason at BSM Exhaust Works can hook you right up!

Thanks for the info. I already ordered the 18" from BSM Exhaust yesterday!!!

[BSM Exhaust]

You should have it today or Monday. Thanks again for the support..

[hemipowerv8]

I installed a Flowmaster super 40 in place of the FloPro I had. SI/DO duals straight out the back still. It is a GREAT sound and about 20% louder and deeper. I am VERY happy with it.
Resonates some on the hwy and on the rare occasion that it kicks in and out of MDS but the good outweighs the bad...by far. Glad I did it.

[vudaddy]

great choice!!!:D

[SRT2Sport]

You should have it today or Monday. Thanks again for the support..

PM Sent.

[shortrod]

I installed the flowmaster 40 stayed with the 3" pipe dropped the res. and ran it to a dual tip sounds sweet.When the ms kicks in it goes quite.NO drone the last thing and the worst thing you can do is put in glass packs sounds crappy and lots of drone.

[Heminut]

Ram is the key word....my neighbor just got his brand new 09 silverado and after just 1860 miles....no brakes! He was out there screaming at the guys that picked it up to return to the dealers.Whats really wild is,the guys wife had talked him into trading his 06 Ram and he was on his cellphone yelling at her..."You had better hope my Ram is still at the chevie dealers cause I want it back !"......That was Tuesday....last night,I found out that they had sold his Ram and he is really on his wifes rear now ! Why do guys let their wives do this ? My wife goes along and we discuss,but,she knows what I want and if I get a few things she wants,we make the deal.....course,I have a super wife anyhow,great lookin,super cook and is so tolerant of me and my wild deals....and now,I got the bug to get another scooter as 11 years ago,I had 6 of em and gradually sold them off including my "Giant killer" 84 700 Nighthawk S which was real pristine.Going for comfort this time...probally an VTX 1300 C.Hope y'all have fun and get to still be a kid at 69 like I am ! LOL

[SmokinMirror]

Many might like the FM sound but they offer the worse performance...

[Heminut]

Smokeinmirror: What do you base that on ? I have always had great luck using Flowmasters and the engineering staff is quick to point out what dyno and how they arrive at the upgrades? I will admit,some other mufflers may get rave reviews,but,after more than 20 years and experance on many vehicles,mine and friends,I still think they improve performance and MPG.

[SmokinMirror]

I have sold trucks for 6 years, some customers with a 4.7 or 5.7 Rams that have switched out to FM have told me they think they lost power.. a few have dynod them and confirmed before and after that the FM muffler on the trucks lost HorsePower and Torque. These are real world people that I have personally met, not TV show BS tests. I have never owned a FM and never will, I also dont have any ties to any other muffler shop, if you want them and are happy with them by all means more power to you. But if you really want to know the truth take them to the Dyno and compare them to any other muffler.

Another sh*t product is K&N AirFIlters.. and Accessories, anyway happy motoring. :D

[Heminut]

Wow....I would like to have an before & after dyno test results to send to the boys at Santa Rosa....can you get me one ? Im sure they will react as I do have their "ear" and am always talking to them.If you did it,I gotta believe ya.Let me know and we shall see what they say.OK ?

[SmokinMirror]

Wow....I would like to have an before & after dyno test results to send to the boys at Santa Rosa....can you get me one ? Im sure they will react as I do have their "ear" and am always talking to them.If you did it,I gotta believe ya.Let me know and we shall see what they say.OK ?

Cant man, I didnt make my customers show me the paper, but when you keep hearing the same things over a long period of time, the trend is obvious. But whatever you have doesnt matter as long as your happy. ;)

[tekm4]

So far I like the factory exhaust The magna and flow sound nice but can't deal with it daily. I am thinking about removing the resongnator.

[SmokinMirror]

So far I like the factory exhaust The magna and flow sound nice but can't deal with it daily. I am thinking about removing the resongnator.

dont, remove the muffler and leave the reso.. Its still quiet until WOT

[dakotaking]

does anyone know what the model # is for the 14" mufflex muffler?

[Heminut]

I have been ridiculed and heard that clear up to this AM when it was again posted on Autoweek forum.The very same thing is true on the other side when idiots like Howie Long preach about Chevies and dont have a clue...especially about the MPG which they have "pumped" up to an unbelieveable factor. I only stated what Ive learned over the past 30 years when being around many forms of racing,building cars/trucks/dune buggies/motorcycles/ and even statioany power plants.I must lump all of these ,along with the newest one(Hundyi makes the best MPG cars in America)ad I saw today. I also have a hard time with the common belief that the GTO wa the first muscle car....it wasnt and it is documented.Chrysler had this concept years prior.GM did market it very well.Another is the falsehood,Chevy made the first engine one HP per one cube(57 283/283)...again wrong as the 56 Chrysler 300B with an 354 " Hemi made 355 HP.Im sure there are many more and not limited to the automoblie field.Im happy and hope y'all are too.

[Mopar2010]

I would like to offer a little input on this one. I like the sound of a Flowmaster muffler. I have a couple of the original style 40 series Flows on my toy (70 Vette, 496 ci with a lumpy cam). But, I do realize that from a design standpoint a chambered muffler such as those 40's do have their limitations. Every engine is different, and some may like a little back pressure for exhaust gas scavenging, but other may need less restriction in order make the most power. (In my case I know that those 40's are too restrictive and I am giving up some performance in order to have the sound that I like.)

That being said if you want to try and get a true apples to apples comparsion from one muffler to the next the only true measure is to know what CFM they flow. Some companies will post these numbers, others will not. Most of the flow results indicate that chambered mufflers lag behind the rest of the pack. It is hard to outflow a "straight through" design like many Magnaflows, Borlas and others have. Which is basically just a perforated section of pipe surrounded by stainless steel wool or fiberglass packing material.

Now that being said I know that Flowmaster has a whole slew of new mufflers out there and I can't vouch for all of them. But until someone proves to me that a Flowmaster chambered muffler will out flow a straight through design like a Magnaflow (based on CFM not dyno results) then I will always follow these general guidelines.

1. If sound is my main priority, then I will go with a Flowmaster.

2. If maximum flow is my main priority, then I will go with a straight through muffler. (Magnaflow, Borla, Pypes.....etc, etc.)

[chad103]

Well ive owned cherry bomb, flowmaster, and now magnaflow, and heres my thoughts on each. cherry bomb and my v-6 made it sound like a v-8 and everyone else agreed with me (turndowns), very deep and great low end sound. Flowmaster was more loud than deep, (duel out back, then turn downs), set off plenty of car alarms on V-8, now I have magnaflow on a dodge V-8, and its deep mellow all the way through. Just put the magnaflow on today but Ive heard the sound only gets better.

[shortrod]

Has anyone tryed the Pypes brand?

[BSM Exhaust]

DOD14M is the part# for the 14" Mufflex.

[dakotaking]

thanks but i meant the muffler its self

[mattlang]

I went with the 18" magnaflow from mufflex and left the resonators on... Heck, it was $50 cheaper then mienike wanted and they had NO clue as to what size to order... (made me nervous) However, It was not polished stainless like I was expecting but I am WAY happy with the results.... I was worried about drone.. but no problem... I date alot and the girls love the sound of the truck now too. However, I love the sound so much .. i am hotroding the truck more often then not.. Wait till you see the monster of a muffer you are going to pull off... wow just the weight savings is a performance booster... but wasn't expecting the huge performance gain from installing this staright through muffer... I believe I have probably gained 10-15 hp ... seat of pants is all that "I" can go by though.. I hope this helps...

[dakotaking]

someone on here posted dyno results on a 09 ram with the 14" kit and got 17hp and 7tq very good for a muffler

[EL DELA RAM]

Hey Guy's I'm A Newbie Here But I Have Posted Several Comment's In Here I Have To Comment On This I Just Swapped My Stock For A Flowmaster 50: And It Does Sound Great I Wasnt Really Sure About The Mufflex Cause All Ive Used Is Flowmaster But It's A Really Good Muffler And And It's Not Obnousiues Like Other Mufflers I've Heard Regarding The Hp I Did Feel A More Pick On My Ride / I Currently Have An 09 Quad 4.7

[Ram Fourpoint7]

I just ordered a Mufflex 24" single out from BSM. I think I spent more time making this decision than deciding to get married. Hopefully this won't be a mistake too. :-)

[dakotaking]

ouch! lol

[SmokinMirror]

No nuts of glory here...

[Scotrod65]

I just ordered a Mufflex 24" single out from BSM. I think I spent more time making this decision than deciding to get married. Hopefully this won't be a mistake too. :-)

Very interested in your results. (With the 24" Mufflex!!! :D ) PM sent.

[Ram Fourpoint7]

Not here yet but I'll let you know.

[Ram Fourpoint7]

I added my Mufflex 24" So yesterday. So far I like it

- I've had two women offer to sleep with me after hearing it.
- 0-60 time dropped by 4 seconds
- Added at least 200 RWHP
- Mileage is up by 10 MPG

Just kidding.

[Heminut]

than smoke it....I was believeing ya till that 10 MPG increase.LOL

[jkdeuce]

Have a flowmaster on my 03 hemi and love it. Just put a magnaflow on my 09 hemi and it is nice but it lacks that rumble that the flowmaster has and is a little to quiet.

[hounddogg]

Which Flowmaster? Which Magnaflow? Did you reuse resonators ?

[jkdeuce]

Flowmaster 40 series. Its the super 44 now. The magnaflow is a 14" single in dual out. I left everything as it was just cut the fact. muffler out and put in the magnaflow. I wonder if it would change any if I took the resonaters out?

[chad103]

U take those res. out and the noise will def increase but you may have some drone issues, from what ive heard those act as silencers and help when your mds switches to keep the ride quiet. Im surprised that 14 inch isnt loud enough thats a pretty small muffler. But i agree with you ive have flow masters too and the noise is no comparison. I have a 18 inch mufflex and its deep def louder than stock but no drone.

[dakotaking]

i just installed a 14" magnaflow,and i dont know who rated it a 9 out of 10 but its more like a 4-5 out of 10.glad i didn't spend $300

[Ram Fourpoint7]

The 14" would be way too loud for me. Must be getting old...

[dakotaking]

well i hope it breaks in a lot more but if it dosn't i'm going flowmaster

[chad103]

Mine has gotten a bit louder since I installed it a couple weeks ago, but I cant believe that 14 isnt loud enough. I was debating between the 24 and the 18 inch mufflex and im sure glad i got the 18, the 24 wouldnt have been close to loud enough.

[Scotrod65]

I hear ya Craig, and I agree with 'must be getting old', because I'm right there with ya!

I just put a mufflex 24" SISO on my '09, (THANKS JASON!) left the resonator on, and it's just a bit louder than oem now,,,,

Got rid of the 'raspy' "hollow can/tractor" sound of the OEM muff and gave it a ever so slightly pronounced, yet 'mellow' tone.

I haven't got too many miles on it yet, but there is no noticable drone, and no 'fart can' sound when in MDS,,,

GOOD DEAL!!!!!!!! :rck:

I've had 'chamber' mufflers, and 'short' mufflers before,,,

You know,,, the 'Set the car alarm off' types,,,

Nowadays, I'm perfectly content to just cruuuuuuuuuuise on by!

[Scotrod65]

Hey dakota,,, did you remove the tailpipe resonator?

If not, that might help in you quest for more sound, although I don't know if a Magnaflow will ever have the sound output level of a chamber muffler,,,

And if the resonator(s) keep the MDS 'tone' down,,,, ya might just be all around happier with the resonator and a FM

[dakotaking]

yes i left it on after a 5 min ride with the stock muffler with out the tailpipe,the drone was bad