On the door post weight it says GVRW of 6,010 but I'm trying to find the curb weight of a B250 Van, its an 1986 Cargo. The whole point of this is to find aftermarket wheels and tires that will carry the weight. I believe this 6,010 weight is loaded Gross weight rating and not actual curb weight.
VanMoreSon
05-26-2009, 05:50 PM
3805 for a shorty and 4030 for the 127" WB.
GoHot229
05-26-2009, 08:52 PM
Thank you VanMoreSon great work......
GoHot229
06-06-2009, 08:31 AM
The point is, for those of us wanting to put on some nice wheels and tires, the GVW the tires can carry. Most fronts are around anywhere from 1,000 lbs. to 14-1,500 lbs' rating and typically 2 or 4 ply sidewall, 2 being more often than not on most performance tires. Looking at rims you will note, if say your looking at Centerlines, the warning (Not for trucks or vans) and while I'm sure they'v been used at some time, somewhere, they could get you a ticket or technical loss in insurance claim by using technecally substandard equiptment ie. wheels or tires rated for CARS. So far, I'v come up with Cragar SS's they look excelent on the Dodge Vans and are capable of the weights. Now for the tires. I'm looking at Hoosiers, simply because of looks and sizes available, but with their weight ratings I might fall through the cracks as far as their GVW capacity. And looking through the stuff in Jegs or Summit's, I fing very simmilar ratings in comperable sizes that interest me for the Van. The thing is, I want to use 12" wheels on the back, and mabe flares all around if they are needed, but would prefer not. The backspacing on the rears is most critical. It appears that you can increase backspacing by 2 to 2 1/2 " thus gaining 2- 2 1/2 " on the outside, thus coming to the edge of the body without a bunch of tire extending past the fenderwell, but still have some substantial 'meats' under it. As for the front a 7" or 8" with 2"-3" backspacing would be just about right, however would be 'out there' a tiny bit too far past the front fenderwell by an inch or two......I think? But again, here we go again trying to find a tire rated for the weight of the front of a van. At 4,030 lbs. you have to consider the front and rear bias in weight, probablt a 60/40. so the 60% weight on the front is what's tough to deal with when looking for tires with this rating. I'd like an 8" tread on the front and a 12.5" tread on the rear, but you start looking for 8"ers and the GVW ratings are seemingly too low. Well all there is to do, is keep looking and doing searches until I find the tires I'm wanting. The best I have come up with so far is 2,470 lb. for two fronts in the Hoosier tire. Thats a bit close and mabe under, when your useing the 60/40 formula ie. 60 for the front, and 40 for the rear.
VanMoreSon
06-06-2009, 11:07 AM
I think you would need to base your tire selection on the GVWR, not on the curb weight of the van. Unless you will never haul anything at all (including passengers)...
97B2500CCV
06-06-2009, 01:17 PM
On my van the GVWR is 6,400 pounds. Current van weight is about 5,600 pounds. I am running factory original mismatched rims with Good Year Wranglers that are rated at 2,039 pounds each.
I have now had them for 6k miles and they work fine for me.
GoHot229, Are the tires you looking at rated at 2,470 pounds each? If so than that would be more than enough for the GVWR of your van and should work fine.
VanMoreSon
06-06-2009, 03:57 PM
Some of the tires he's considering are car tires and have pretty low weight ratings. If the van is just for show, I guess that would be OK.
GoHot229
06-07-2009, 07:32 AM
Well, I typically run empty. I have a spare, a floor jack, and a folding seat/bed arangementin the back, it, (the bed/seat) all of about 80-100 lbs. and seldom have a passenger, but could have as many as 5-6 people riding with me, but very seldom more than two, usually just myself.
GoHot229
06-07-2009, 10:05 AM
Well it turns out that B F Goodrich T/A Radials will carry the loads with some to spare. The fronts in a 245 will carry over 2,100 lbs @ 35 psi each. Now were getting somewhere, and the rears 275's will carry in exess of 2,300 lbs at the same 35 psi. Mounted on 8" and 10" Keystone classics, I think I'v found the combo that will address the GVW on the B250. And I always liked the Keystone Classics on the Mopar stuff, particularily the Van. It all just takes a bit of searching to come up with something. For a while I was thinking of Stock Ralley Mopar wheels in an 8" configuration, but I could not find them in the 5" bolt circle. Then I was thinking Stock Steel's with Dog Dish hubcaps in the 5" bolt circle. Ideally my choice would be Stock Steel in a 15 x 7-8" with Dog Dish's So the jurys still debating. Anyone know of 15x8's with a 5 on 5" in a Rally, or were there ever such animals?
B-300
06-07-2009, 10:12 PM
I don't think Rallye rims were made in 5" bolt circle.
Also I thought 85-up went to 5 on 5-1/2" circle, except 1 ton.
B-300
06-08-2009, 12:18 AM
I looked up 245/60-15 BFG radial T/A's on at www.summitracing.com and they are rated at ~1750 lbs. This is the same as the Dunlops I run up front. (255/60 rear)
I have hauled over a ton without problems on a mountain road.
