Haven't gotten around to any modifications yet but I think I am finally going to do my first one. I want to start off with getting the Crystal Clear Diamond Cut headlights.
My question being, exactly what bulbs do I need to get in order to replace the whole unit with EuroDezign Super White Bulbs???
Headlight
Parking Light
Turn Signal
I still need to shop around to find where I can get the headlights the cheapest, but at the same time I want to order all the bulbs so i need to know what I have to use. :help:
rockadaous
06-02-2004, 05:48 PM
3157's for parking lights/turn signals 9007 for headlight & 194 for sidemarker
http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/data/503/8342diamond_cut_headlight_005-med.jpg
Use eBay, that is the BEST way to get the bulbs for the cheapest amount possible.
Do a search for the Model # bulbs and youll find what you need like:
"9007 bulbs" and search the auction descriptions as well.
Also, make sure to check out SHIPPING prices before finalizing. Some bulbs may be 99 cents but the sellers charge $10 for shipping whiping out that one beign a good price.
Ripped
06-02-2004, 10:42 PM
I wish I could find a place that sold just the headlights cheap...
I bought the clear corners, but I wouldda been better off buying the whole package with the clear corners and crystal headlights together. It's a better deal as a package.
I like your headlights rockadaous, I was thinking of a way to put led's or something into the far outside corner beside the headlights just to trick things up a little, anyway yours look great
HotCtyPlaya
06-02-2004, 10:53 PM
Looks like yer running some illegal colors there rock....
rockadaous
06-03-2004, 12:38 PM
Looks like yer running some illegal colors there rock.... probably, but haven't been pulled yet for em. there white when on:D
ripped, I was gonna do the same thing, but use 194's instead
durangocrruzer
06-03-2004, 01:56 PM
i think it looks nice! I finally got our truck back from the shop and they installed the Altezza Tailights and Clear Corner lights for me, BUT didn't put the Hyper White parking bulbs on them. How can I go about in doing it myself...is it easy?
rockadaous
06-03-2004, 03:43 PM
you might be able to reach them through the wheel well or find the torx screw in the corner and remove it, then pull. it's easy enough, but make sure you have a torx screw driver set first.
kingstretch
06-17-2004, 03:59 PM
Is it possible to use the stock headlight assembly with a "crystal clear/hyper white/etc." bulb, or would the light still look dingy? I'd rather keep my corners and parking lights the way they are but get a nicer looking bulb for the headlights.
rockadaous
06-17-2004, 05:10 PM
it would look ok. I think it would cut down on the blue tint a bit, but I think it would still look good. You also wouldn't be able to see the blue tint when the lights are off.
kingstretch
06-18-2004, 10:48 AM
I think I might try it out and see how it looks. The blue tint when the lights are off is one of the reasons I wanted to keep my stock assembly anyway, so that's a bonus. If I don't like it, it looks like I could probably discount them a bit and e-Bay them anyway so there's no harm in trying. I might post a pic just in case anyone else is interested.
TheRango
06-26-2004, 03:51 PM
I'd like to see how that looks, so try and post a pic if you do it
coachholland
06-26-2004, 04:55 PM
The blue tint is there when the lights are off with the stock headlight assembly, but it is there and noticable. At night, the lights won't be nearly as yellow as the stock bulbs. It is a very nice white light with just a hair of blue to it.
I'll try to get a pic here later.
kingstretch
07-08-2004, 10:36 AM
coachholland, what brand of bulbs did you use? I'm still trying to decide which ones I want to try. Sounds like yours are exactly what I'm looking for.
Oh, and did you replace the corners too?
coachholland
07-13-2004, 04:17 AM
Yep, I replaced the corners on my D with the clear corners. Don't get the diamond types which won't match up (looks wise) with your regular D headlamp assembly.
We ended up having crappy weather after I said I would post a pic and I ended up forgetting about this thread. It's supposed to be nice today, so I will actually get the pic done and uploadedif the weather holds.
The bulbs I got are Blue6K Xenon headlights from Eurodezigns. I picked them up for a great price off ebay. They give a much cleaner light than the stocks.
The username on ebay for the guy is equipsales003.
rockadaous
07-13-2004, 05:04 AM
http://www.procarparts.com/store-detail.asp?sku=DG97DK%2D3534SLX&dbname=onlinestoreDB has some good deals . they came out with the yellow reflector to meet D.O.T standards. makes sense, but doesn't look as good. if your cars parked on a dark street with lights off people will still be able to see it a good way off.
coachholland
07-13-2004, 07:46 AM
That's a good deal on those. They even throw in the bulbs on that deal.
Before it is asked, you don't need to splice those extra wires shown in the pic. Your D should already have that wired already, so you can just change out the bulbs.
Additionally, the amber bulbs that come with that set will look kind of iffy with your clear corners, especially in the daytime. You have the option of using clear parking/turn signal lights (which I personally prefer and I believe are legal) or you can pic up a pack of lights which glow amber, but are clear in color with the lights off. I saw those at Advance Auto Parts for $20.
Sunny outside, so off to take that pic.
coachholland
07-13-2004, 07:58 AM
Here's the pic. I also added it to my gallery. Pending approval at the moment.
It definitely has a bit more blue to it to the naked eye. The camera didn't pick up the blue as much as it actually has. Possibly the sun drowned it out.
kingstretch
07-13-2004, 12:22 PM
I appreciate all the help, somehow I figured I wasn't the only one that wanted to do this. I ordered some on the in-channel vent visors this week so I'll order the bulbs when I get the visors and put them on. I'll post a picture when that happens in case anyone is curious.
rockadaous
07-15-2004, 06:22 PM
I believe there's a group buy going on right now. don't know the prices but here's the link
http://www.dakota-durango.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2470
MaceDew
07-17-2004, 12:01 AM
If you want the all clear look why don't you just use LEDS in the all the lights besides the headlights. I am doing this on my wifes Grand Am once I get the LOAD EQUALIZERS. I have to pull out the Ohm meter and see which size load equalizer I will need for the D once I get the clear lens I just ordered. Ill post pics once I get things straightened out.
HotCtyPlaya
07-17-2004, 12:12 AM
here is a pic with the LEDs in the euro clear diamond cut....
http://teamkronix.com/_images/_media/rudy/1.JPG
http://teamkronix.com/_images/_media/rudy/3.JPG
Two diff angles....
B1G BLEU
07-21-2004, 04:46 PM
Hey, Coach, my '01 harness has a slotted bulb harness that hold the corner bulbs, not the cross that the new lenses use. I had to cut.
coachholland
07-24-2004, 01:22 AM
Yeah, I just noticed that when you pointed it out on yours regarding the lens that rockadaous linked to.
The ones I got off ebay were from a different maker I assume, thus no mods and splicing were needed. I used all stock wiring. These are the ones I bought.
I bought the entire new headlight setup and that is what i would reccomend with the euro style...otherwise your headlights look off shade and just not right......its the small things that matter...
kingstretch
08-20-2004, 11:20 AM
I bought the EuroDesignz 9007 Blue headlights last week and put them in. First of all the installation was simple. The hardest part was getting my hands into the access hole on the passenger side (intake box was in the way). I moved it around a little bit and managed to squeeze in though.
Anyway, I hate to say it but I'm fairly dissappointed with the way the lights turned out. Unless I'm the only car on the road, it's pretty difficult to even see the lights projected onto the road. They're aimed the exact same now as they were with the stock headlights, so I don't think that's it. Either the EuroDesignz bulbs are inherintly dimmer than the other bulbs I see on the road, or having the stock headlight assembly opposed to the "Diamond Cut" headlight assembly REALLY makes a difference. :grum:
coachholland
08-20-2004, 10:17 PM
Yeah, the designer of the headlight assembly must have been a five year old with really small arms and hands. They're a pain in the butt to get to.
Regarding the brightness, that kind of surprises me. How clean is your housing? The diamond headlight assembly will definitely show brighter. Just a tip I forgot to mention though, I did end up aiming them higher and they were a large improvement over the stock bulbs.
I bought the entire new headlight setup and that is what i would reccomend with the euro style...otherwise your headlights look off shade and just not right......its the small things that matter...
Simple fix for that one. Removal of the stock assembly and give them a good soaking with hot water, oxyclean and a good cleaner. Spotless dish washing detergent works surprisingly good for this. Plug the holes, give them a good shake and let them sit a while to break up any dirt and grime and shake some more after a bit of time. Then *very* thorougly rinse them out... the oxyclean will leave a light coating if it's not all out. Stock assembly looks good as new after getting out all the water, using an air gun to remove excess and then drying out the rest of the way in the sun. Make sure they're completely dry before putting the bulbs back in to avoid condensation.
coachholland
08-24-2004, 11:06 AM
Just to update on this...
This topic got my curiosity aroused a bit about lighting in general when it comes to autos. I started doing some research and found some interesting info.
First off to preface anything said here, the bulbs I recommended I still like. I compared them to a D that had Silverstars in them (that cost much more than the EuroDesignz 9007's I pointed out) and they have the same light output, however I like the look of the EuroDesignz 9007's much more. Considering how much I've seen Silverstars recommended here and at other places I've looked, I thought that those Phillips bulbs were about as top of the line as you get... especially considering their price.
Turns out that Silverstars that are made for the US and Canada are actually not all that they could be. There is an auto light maker in Germany that originally made the Silverstars and they were bought out by Phillips. The original Silverstars in Europe are still awesome bulbs, however the ones made for our markets are inferior to them.
Additionally, different people view blue bulbs differently. Apparently for many people, blue light is not quite as visible as white. Now, from my viewpoint, the EuroDesignz 9007's produce a much whiter light than the dingy output of stock bulbs and are a bit brighter. However, some people may not see this light as well due to the blue tint of the bulbs.
My EuroDesignz bulbs are as much of a quality product to me as any blue bulbs I've seen out there, however for a much better price. Additionally, they are comparable to the Silverstars, which many people like. The kicker is though that blue bulbs may not be the best option for everyone due to the way that some people view blue light waves different than others.
rockadaous
08-24-2004, 11:56 AM
I think a lot of people won't try them because they look to ricerish. not euro but ricer. I for one will try new products just because.
kingstretch
08-25-2004, 11:18 AM
In my case I wasn't necesserily looking for a blue light - it's not the blue I was after. I was just looking for a light as "clean" as the newer cars I see on the road today - some of which happen to give off a blue tint. I think when I get a little bit of extra time I'm going to put one of the Silverstar's back in and just do a side-by-side comparison to see if it's my imagination or not.
One thing that COULD be the problem is that ever since I've had my Durango I've driven with both the headlights and the fog lights on. I have the Eurodesignz headlights now, so the fog lights don't match up and I've been leaving them off. This obviously causes a huge difference when talking about how bright they appear on the road.
I'll do the side-by-side comparison just out of curiosity then put some new fog lights in (I was going to do that anyway) and see if that helps.
Speaking of new fog lights, I've done some reading on here and I don't think I saw any definite replacement BULB (hyperwhite, etc.) for the stock assembly. I want to eventually get the Angel Eye "type" fog lights, but for now I'm opting for a simple bulb replacement. One person says a different model will work and another says the higher wattage will burn your wires or melt the lens. Any definitive advice on a new bulb?
rockadaous
08-25-2004, 12:45 PM
don't go higher wattage. it'll crack the plastic lenses. I'll send you pictures of mine. i ended up change'n them out. I would look for euro's fogs though. makes everything match.
coachholland
08-26-2004, 08:22 AM
Agreed. Same as with the headlight bulbs, if you go the wrong way you're going to melt your wires or crack your lens.
Like I mentioned, the Silverstars and the Eurodesignz give out the same output for me. The guy I bought them off of also has bulbs in stock that will work for your fogs as well. He emailed me with his suggestions on what ones I should get that will match up perfectly, however I'm not at that computer right now. Once I get that one hooked back up I'll dig up the email and find out what ones.
kingstretch
08-26-2004, 11:40 AM
Been looking around at fog lights a little bit today. Looking at the entire unit and just a bulb replacement trying to weigh the options.
Does anybody know if the Streetglow Superwhite 894 fog/driving light bulbs will match up reasonably well with the EuroDesignz 9007 headlight bulbs? If not, what about the Silverstar 893ST?
If neither of these work I'm thinking about maybe the Hella Optilux 2500's that Dodgeboy (I think?) has, or maybe the ________ one's that Rock has (still not positive what the name on them is).
Thanks for the help!
rockadaous
08-26-2004, 01:09 PM
mine are a total replacement. wally world has em. navigator makes em. perfect fit. you have to make a bracket, but easy to install.
kingstretch
09-13-2004, 09:41 AM
Quick update: I bought the Eurodezigns 893's for my fogs and they really helped out. Much happer with the brightness of the lights now. Still might look into cleaning out my headlights and seeing if that helps their brightness any.
AllThingsEnd
09-13-2004, 01:26 PM
anyone know what turn signal bulbs will match the eurodezign headlights
kingstretch
09-13-2004, 03:02 PM
don't the turn signals have to be amber? or some shade of yellow?
AllThingsEnd
09-13-2004, 06:28 PM
not here in texas. they can be any color between white and amber.
(c) Turn signal lamps:
(1) shall be mounted at the same level and spaced as
widely apart as practicable on the front and on the rear of the
vehicle; and
(2) may be included as a part of another lamp on the
vehicle.
(d) A turn signal lamp shall emit:
(1) a white or amber light, or a color between white
and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the front of the vehicle; or
(2) a red or amber light, or a color between red and
amber, if the lamp is mounted on the rear of the vehicle.
(e) A turn signal lamp must be visible in normal sunlight at
a distance of:
(1) at least 500 feet from the front and rear of the
vehicle if the vehicle is at least 80 inches wide; and
(2) at least 300 feet from the front and rear of the
vehicle if the vehicle is less than 80 inches wide.
i was kind of pissed when i found that out because i when i got my clear corners i put the amber bulbs in that came with it and threw away the white ones because i was under the assumption that they had to be amber.
kingstretch
09-14-2004, 10:52 AM
No kidding... learn something new every day. That sounds like it's going to be a pretty hard item to find. You can probably get the basic white replacement bulb (as if you still had an amber lens) - but it probably won't match up with the Eurodezigns bulbs.
I think I read somewhere that the 3157 bulbs were for Turn Signals, so "in theory" these should work fairly well (although from the looks of it you'll be able to see a blue bulb through your lens): https://www.eurodezigns.com/shop/detail.aspx?ID=67
AllThingsEnd
09-14-2004, 05:50 PM
well apparently on Fort Bliss you have to have amber turn signals so now im looking for a white bulb that when you hit the turn signal the bulb will show amber. i dont want to have to go to LEDs but if thats what it takes then i guess ill do it. i really want to find those white bulbs that glow amber though.
Neil F.
09-14-2004, 07:07 PM
Sylvania Silver Stars are blue and glow amber. They come in the 3197's but not the 194 side markers. Do a web search for Pilot chrome bulbs. They are chrome and glow amber. They are available for both.
