Please list any bolt on performance parts for the new 09' RAM. Ive tried searching for a K&N Intake or an aftermarket exhaust for my new 09' crew cab sport and no luck.
SmokinMirror
02-18-2009, 11:04 PM
K&N Sucks.
The 09 Ram doesn’t have a bad intake air filter setup. I would just cut the mufflers out and straight pipes. (you still wont notice much) The truck doesn’t need much more than a programmer.
We tested one with the ABS fuses pulled. It didn’t make a noticeable difference. We are trying to figure out how to delete ESP completely.
WVU Fan
02-19-2009, 12:37 AM
There are No ESP mods for the LX cars you can purchase for $50 and works by splicing into the factory wiring for the ESP switch. You push the factory button once to turn it to factory "ESP Off" which really isn't off (normal operation of the factory switch). Then you push the button again but hold it in for 5-10 seconds and it turns completely off.
On 07 and up LX cars you can do a trick by turning the ignition key to the "start" position while the vehicle is running and in motion (the starter is disengaged after the engine is running). You hold it in the start position and it disables ESP completely as well.
Of course I have no idea if either would work on the trucks. I'm sure somebody will try it out soon. I might try the ignition trick if I think about it in the next day or two.
STR8_From_Hell
02-19-2009, 04:54 AM
These trucks factory exhaust manifold, Y pipe and cat setup is complete garbage. Long tubes and 2.5" duals will most likely make an appreciable gain. Works great on the LX/LY cars and the trucks are no different in that respect. I agree on the intake........it's pretty wide open so an aftermarket one will just give you noise. Tuning is needed very badly. The torque management is terrible as usual. I am going to try the turn the key trick on my truck.........it doesn't work on my SRT as an example( supposedly some late 06's it does.....mines a June build and nada) just to try. I like killing the ESP with the Predator on my car.......it's really a dyno only mode but the torque management is gone completely when the rest of the ESP system is dead. I lose my first to second shift bog (when spinning) that even with my custom tune is still there regardless of button position on my particular car.
Headers, full exhaust and a tune are pretty much all I am interested in for this truck. Internals..........it's a pickup truck........I own my SRT for a reason.
Blackzilla
03-09-2009, 11:32 AM
heres a pic of the airaid for the 09.... think its $200+
Blackzilla
03-09-2009, 11:35 AM
part# 300-236
qtipextra
03-09-2009, 02:34 PM
What is this "ESP" you guys are talking about?
BSM Exhaust
03-09-2009, 02:43 PM
Mufflex bolt on MagnaFlow mufflers.
http://www.bsmexhaust.com/catalog/searchResults.php?cat_id=113
Doc Fluty
03-09-2009, 07:00 PM
Heres a few pics of my XDI intake.. i believe it make the truck more responsive to the peddle.
that thing looks nice, I wonder why the abrupt 90 degree bends though? ...must be for clearance if those are needed I guess.
chambers
03-10-2009, 08:21 PM
Never mind Doc, I'm assuming you're the same guy I asked on the other dodge forum so I have my answer already.
Doc Fluty
03-11-2009, 12:13 PM
oh hey chambers.. sorry i didnt see your question.
and yes i think you asked me elsewhere...
Blackzilla
03-11-2009, 01:51 PM
call airaid the complete system will be out in 30/45 days.........whats seen in pic i posted + the intake tube.
qtipextra
03-11-2009, 02:26 PM
What is this "ESP" you guys are talking about?
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chambers
03-11-2009, 06:21 PM
I think ESP is a traction control system which uses the brakes and cuts engine power to keep the vehicle under control.
WVU Fan
03-11-2009, 07:16 PM
ESP is Electronic Stability Program.
ivegotcows671
03-15-2009, 02:50 PM
90 degree bends arent efficent at all...i bet the xdi is more restrictive than the factory unit.
chambers
03-15-2009, 07:42 PM
Maybe but people have reported mpg gains with no power loss using them. If you get 1-2 mpg from it and better filtration with a permanent filter, isn't it worth the money?
Doc Fluty
03-15-2009, 09:42 PM
I got power gains and increased MPG from the xdi... so im happy with it
Bubba_Hemi
03-28-2009, 12:57 AM
Any more word on turning off the ESP with either method mentioned?
mellamoyimmy
03-28-2009, 12:51 PM
There's a button to turn it off... it might be a bad idea turning it off at the strip because without it on I noticed a lot more slip in the tires and I don't know how much control you'll have without it. To let you know how much of a difference it makes, when i turned mine off to experiment, I went from skidding a little on turns to doing a complete 180 degree turn-around. The roads were wet of course but it was definitely a noticeable difference.
v8440
03-28-2009, 01:56 PM
That is where driving comes in. When you feel the tires start to spin, you let partway off. The stock traction control logic is designed to keep dumbasses from running off into the ditch, not to provide the absolute best acceleration possible without blowing the tires away. You have to provide that. In other words, the traction control will err on the side of caution and either slow a good driver down or at best do no harm.
Take your truck and practice launching it until you have a good idea of what kind of launch it likes best and how much throttle pressure you can apply and how soon you can apply it before it spins the tires. This practice is what will make you a good driver vs someone who puts weight in the left side seat and pushes the pedals.
I know I may sound a bit like an ******* here, but what I'm trying to stress is that the stock electronics are no substitute for a skilled driver. If you rely on the electronics to get you down the track, you will never get as much performance as it can deliver.
seth505
03-28-2009, 04:34 PM
I know I may sound a bit like an ******* here, but what I'm trying to stress is that the stock electronics are no substitute for a skilled driver. If you rely on the electronics to get you down the track, you will never get as much performance as it can deliver.
agreed for sure
Bubba_Hemi
03-30-2009, 11:47 PM
I can understand the concept of it... and I agree that it's a dummy control for people that don't know how to do it properly. I know how to feather the pedal through a corner, let off if spinning off the line and to not get into it to much to prevent from spinning off the line.
But that doesn't mean that with a lot of power going to a set of tires without a lot of weight that I don't like to just hammer down and have some fun. Just hard to do with this whole ESP thing... :(
v8440
03-31-2009, 05:38 AM
That's true. At least, partially disabling it will allow a bunch of wheelspin.
allhemi
04-05-2009, 06:03 PM
Has anyone tryed the 'key trick' on the new ram yet? I know it works on my '09 challenger.
Bubba_Hemi
04-05-2009, 07:49 PM
I held the key forward for a few seconds the other day while driving and didn't notice it change anything.
WVU Fan
04-05-2009, 09:57 PM
Has anyone tryed the 'key trick' on the new ram yet? I know it works on my '09 challenger.
It doesn't work on the Rams. I had been meaning to try it ever since I bought the truck at the end of January and finally did the other day. I was moving around 20mph and held the key in the start position for about 15 seconds and it never did anything. I know it didn't work on my 06 Charger R/T either. I believe it was 07's and later for the LX cars that you could fully disable it with the key trick.
Bubba_Hemi
04-06-2009, 02:02 PM
Yup... tried it again last night and it didn't work. :(
v8440
04-06-2009, 02:57 PM
I believe I'm going to try disconnecting the front wheel speed sensors. I'm sure that will light the dashboard up like a Christmas tree, but if it doesn't go into a limp mode it ought to totally disable traction control.
v8440
04-06-2009, 04:01 PM
Ok, that works. You can disconnect them from under the hood, but it's a bitch to get to the connectors unless you have something beside the truck to stand on while you lean way over the fender. For the passenger side, just jerk the airbox off it's moorings and shove it out of the way. You don't need to take any hoses loose, just manhandle it around, being careful not to let the airhorn that presses against the fender tear up the a/c lines. You'll see the connector way down and near the back. It's one of those chinese puzzle deals where there's a little red clip you must pull back, and then you press down on the little black tab that was exposed by pulling the red clip back. Same thing on the driver's side, except you don't remove anything to get to it. If you have nothing to stand on, it helps greatly to turn the wheels towards whichever side you're working on so that you can stand on the tire.
Disconnecting these sensors will turn on your traction control light, your abs light, and if you have the evic, it'll display ESP BAS. Ignore all that and drive your truck-you now can do a burnout, and it should not pull the throttle back due to wheelspin at all. It should also not pull the throttle back due to having smaller drag radials on the back if you should happen to run them.
seth505
04-06-2009, 04:04 PM
Ok, that works. You can disconnect them from under the hood, but it's a bitch to get to the connectors unless you have something beside the truck to stand on while you lean way over the fender. For the passenger side, just jerk the airbox off it's moorings and shove it out of the way. You don't need to take any hoses loose, just manhandle it around, being careful not to let the airhorn that presses against the fender tear up the a/c lines. You'll see the connector way down and near the back. It's one of those chinese puzzle deals where there's a little red clip you must pull back, and then you press down on the little black tab that was exposed by pulling the red clip back. Same thing on the driver's side, except you don't remove anything to get to it. If you have nothing to stand on, it helps greatly to turn the wheels towards whichever side you're working on so that you can stand on the tire.
Disconnecting these sensors will turn on your traction control light, your abs light, and if you have the evic, it'll display ESP BAS. Ignore all that and drive your truck-you now can do a burnout, and it should not pull the throttle back due to wheelspin at all. It should also not pull the throttle back due to having smaller drag radials on the back if you should happen to run them.
nice!
ivegotcows671
04-06-2009, 05:26 PM
Seems like alot of work but good for someone that does a lot of drag racing. Prob not something you would want to run around all the time.
v8440
04-06-2009, 05:47 PM
It took almost 5 minutes the first time-not terribly difficult. It's really not needed unless you're going to be running different height tires on the front and back for some reason. Then it makes a world of difference.
OuttaCtrlHemi
04-07-2009, 09:21 AM
Followup question V8440....do you have to disconnect both front sensors...or can you disconnect just one and achieve the same results?
Thanks for the info BTW
mopowar
04-07-2009, 09:33 AM
I wonder- if you ran a set of wires up from each of the rear sensors and spliced them into the ecm side of the front sensor wires (while disconnected), would that achieve the same goal without all the dash lights?
v8440
04-07-2009, 03:14 PM
Followup question V8440....do you have to disconnect both front sensors...or can you disconnect just one and achieve the same results?
Thanks for the info BTW
I did both. I can't see what good trying this with one wheel's sensor still feeding data to the computer would do.
OuttaCtrlHemi
04-07-2009, 03:38 PM
Thanks v8440...just figured that the system would be disabled as long as it saw at least just one sensor open and to have the other sensor open was just redundant.
