I posted a couple weeks ago about my DS window glass just dropping out all the sudden. I just disassembled the door & found out how: the channel that fits the bottom glass edge disconnected. No rust or corrosion, just fell off.
I suspect this had to do with too much force being applied by the power window motor (ie: not stopping short of the 'stop' bumper when it bottoms out - I can see that when testing it now with the door 'naked'.
But herein my question: how or what is the method for making the channel piece tight on the window glass edge ? It just looks like a press fit. Is there supposed to be some adhesive holding 'em together, or just friction & gravity ?
I thank all you ahead of time for sharing what you can.....:help:
Best Regards,
David in East Texas (Ram Van Man) :SPIN:
RamVanMan
10-26-2008, 04:05 AM
What I meant to ask was: has anyone here ever noted what, if any, adhesive or maybe caulk was used to attach the regulator channel piece to the lower edge of the front window glass ?
FYI, a sheet metal type arm, moved by the electric window motor, moves a roller wheel inside this track, thus moving the window glass up or down.
Right now, I just pressed it back in. Seemed to go in ok, but might 'fall out' again.
My son asked: why not use epoxy ? Crazy ?
Any ideas are appreciated !
DB
97B2500CCV
10-26-2008, 10:53 AM
I have not run into this problem. But from your last discription about pressing the part in and your son's suggestion of using epoxy seems to be a valid point. I would use just enough on the press points to hold it where it belongs.
The only draw back would be if you need to replace the glass latter, it may be harder to get that part back apart.
And be sure to set the motor stop so that it works properly if it has not been done yet.
Would not hurt to double check the other door as well.
RamVanMan
10-26-2008, 12:31 PM
.......The only draw back would be if you need to replace the glass latter, it may be harder to get that part back apart.
And be sure to set the motor stop so that it works properly if it has not been done yet.....
I appreciate your input. Can you help me out on where I locate the 'motor stop' ? The only 'stop' I saw was just the little metal 'shelf' upon which is located a rubber pad about 3/8" thick, upon which the lower edge of the metal window channel comes to rest.
Is there an adjustable stop somewhere else ?
Best Regards, David B.
PS: one other person asked if this 'Gorilla Glue' product that is now gaining popularity might be a 'non brittle adhesive' that might be usable in this instance. I've not tried it.....has anyone used it ?
landyacht318
10-26-2008, 01:40 PM
When I had to replace that c channel because the old one disintegrated into bits of rust, I had to replace it with an 3/16inch wider c channel, so the press fit was not even an option.
What I wound up doing was lining the inside of the c channel with a quality double sided tape till it was near a press fit, then filled the taped area with some type of adhesive roofers caulk, and pressed the window into that gooey mess.
After I cleaned off the excess goo, I covered the area with Flexfit flexible reflective tape, because I was in a hurry to cross the border and couldn't wait for the caulk to properly dry and did not want the caulk to stick to the window seal on the door.
Has held for 11 months with no problems.
I'd stay away from any permanent adhesives like gorilla glue or epoxy. The epoxy might not even bond with the glass unless it were immaculately cleaned
97B2500CCV
10-26-2008, 09:20 PM
PS: one other person asked if this 'Gorilla Glue' product that is now gaining popularity might be a 'non brittle adhesive' that might be usable in this instance. I've not tried it.....has anyone used it ?
On the motor stop there may not be one, may just have to watch the glass as it goes up and stop the switch as the window stops.
The Gorilla Glue is a "brittle" type glue. I like the idea from Landyacht318 of using a glass type caulking and the tape to help. That way it is removable latter as needed.
Dodgevanman
10-28-2008, 02:11 PM
You could use that marshmallow goop that comes in a jar! LOL!
alloro
10-28-2008, 04:27 PM
I would just run a bead of weatherstrip glue down the channel and assemble it. The glue can be found in any auto store.
Chump
11-01-2008, 04:49 AM
Chrysler says that Everseal is to be used. This may be made by Surebond. 3M may also have something similar. Check with a local store that sells body finishing supplies...they will know for sure. The part on the bottom of the window is called a lift channel. Another reason these seperate is due to bad window channels and improper lubrication throughout the window mechanism.
www.surebond.com
