I am considering a 6" lift and 37" tires on my truck, but I am worried it will be to high to tow my 5th wheel. Flipping the axles or anything not easily changed back is not an option because my dad needs to be able to tow it with his stock 3500 still. Is it at all possible? I know there is a bit of adjustment, but the trailer sits about level with a stock truck, and I would be going up approx 8" in height in the rear. Anyone done this or know if it would work?
1tonmegacab
04-30-2008, 10:05 PM
all depends on the unit they are all different but i would say a 6 inch with 37s would be a tough one to make work
i know a guy with a 6 inch and 37s and aint no way its happening for him
i know a guy with a 4.5 inch fab tech and 35s and its nose high but he makes it work
my 3 inch leveling kit and 35s was nose high and its still a bit high in the front even with my 17 inch stock height wheels/tires
so really depends on the 5th wheel unit i will post of pics of my truck with the 35s and also the stock size 17s
1tonmegacab
04-30-2008, 10:11 PM
i will post up pics tomorrow i am soooooooo tir4s i fell asleep at the pc lmao
i left home yesterday at 7am got home 30 mins after midnight ( long day of work for sure) then today it was 7:30 am and got home at around 7 or so so night for now
Ram3500Dually
04-30-2008, 10:14 PM
You won't be able to pull with both. You will have to set it up to be pulled with one or the other.
ultimate ram
04-30-2008, 10:48 PM
I've seen a tag a long trailer that hitches to your truck's bumper. It's basically a 5th wheel hitch on wheels. So your trailer hitches to this tag a long. Therefore, regardless of your tow vehicle, car, truck, suv, you can tow a 5th wheel trailer.
Edit, just think of it as modified dolly. kinda sorta...
mocho
04-30-2008, 11:42 PM
What about if I went to stock tires for towing? So the truck would only be about 4" higher then stock? I know it's not going to be right level, but as long as it's not going to be hard on the trailer i'm ok with it, lots of pin weight doesn't concern me as the trailer isn't that big. I really don't want to buy adapters, because it just gets to expensive, and not worth it.
1tonmegacab
05-01-2008, 02:47 AM
What about if I went to stock tires for towing? So the truck would only be about 4" higher then stock? I know it's not going to be right level, but as long as it's not going to be hard on the trailer i'm ok with it, lots of pin weight doesn't concern me as the trailer isn't that big. I really don't want to buy adapters, because it just gets to expensive, and not worth it.
there is ways of doing it and of course its up to you but with the price of gas/fuel right now there is no way i would be doing anything to my truck that is going to net me 10 mpg or less on daily average while not towing
i get 10 towing no way i would want that all the time
also to with my truck is that the unit is a bit high in the front but the truck is sagging a bit in the rear so i have air bags for the rear but after being aired up the thing will be even higher in the front
so i am gonna take out my lift add the bags so that i can get get the truck level without having the front of the unit so high in the front and this is all with a 3 inch lift and stock tires
i would say get the thing hooked to your truck see what it looks like and go from there
1tonmegacab
05-01-2008, 03:02 AM
here is my truck with 3 inch lift and stock height tires on 17 inch wheels now whilt it is not extreme the truck is sagging a bit and the 5th wheel is high in the front
now i dont get out there and drive 75-80 mph like some of these fools but when you tow something this big long distance you want it to roll safe and be able to make decent time
and here is the truck after the long bed conversion i just did not have my dually setup yet so it still had the single wheel in the rear
now its funny this pic makes it look no worse than the other one with smaller tires but it is obvious that is was because the tires were bigger
while this is not extreme either just imagine this set up if my truck had tires that were 4-5 inches taller and the lift was 3 inches taller i could never do it and still be safe and comfortable ( white knuckle driving sucks)
but like i said every truck/trailer combo is different get it hook it up and make your choice from there good luck and post up some pics i would love to see your unit
Ya I can see why you want your trailer level, it's a house on wheels :D I wouldn't mind how yours is, a bit higher even maybe considering my unit is only 25 ft, it's not heavy for a 3500, it barely sagged a 2500 hemi we used to tow it last year. My truck has air bags to, so it will only squat less then 1". I will post up some pics when we get it out of storage, it's still like winter here barely above freezing.
Diesel is really pricy here, but I only put about 8,000 miles on a year loosing 1-2 MPG doesn't really concern me, and I rarely tow anything heavy.
1tonmegacab
05-01-2008, 11:05 PM
Ya I can see why you want your trailer level, it's a house on wheels :D I wouldn't mind how yours is, a bit higher even maybe considering my unit is only 25 ft, it's not heavy for a 3500, it barely sagged a 2500 hemi we used to tow it last year. My truck has air bags to, so it will only squat less then 1". I will post up some pics when we get it out of storage, it's still like winter here barely above freezing.
Diesel is really pricy here, but I only put about 8,000 miles on a year loosing 1-2 MPG doesn't really concern me, and I rarely tow anything heavy.
i hear ya man i talked to my dad today and it is still getting in the mid to high 20s there at night with 40 or so during the day
CRMRAM
05-01-2008, 11:20 PM
w00ps wrong thread :(
me1magoo
05-05-2008, 07:51 PM
I would say that it's going to be more than difficult. If you get the nose up much at all, you will add weight to the rear axle (and rear tires...). It would seem that with the equalizing pivot between the axle that would not happen, but hit the scales and weigh the axles separately and then raise up the hitch to lift the nose and reweigh and you will see that weight shifts to the rear axle. My trailer sits up pretty high and has great clearance and still sits a little nose up hooked to my stock 3500. You would have to add larger tires and wheels, probably a lift set up on the trailer suspension to get it level enough to tow safely and then it will be so top heavy it won't be stable. If you want to tow it with a truck lifted 6" with 37" tires, look into the tow buddy set up and that way you can set it's height to the same as your dad's stock height truck and have it work right every time. I really just don't see you getting it to work safely at all.
mocho
05-06-2008, 05:52 PM
Thanks for the input guys, I have decieded to not get a lift or 37", and just put a 2" spacer to level it out and a set of 35" tires. Between the hassle of towing the trailer in the summer and hauling the snowmobiles in the winter it's just going to be a huge hassle if my truck is this high. I am sure my trailer will still be nose high with 35" tires, but i'm sure it will tow fine.
bruteforce
05-06-2008, 06:18 PM
Lift your trailer... I have a friend that did that to match his F-350, only took abut 4 inches to get it up. All that was modded past the suspension was the step mounts...
daytona5530
05-12-2009, 11:11 AM
I lifted my boat trailer actually with 2 inch lift blocks over the axels to make it sit better with my truck, didn't take alot really just fabbed it in my grage and away I went.