need dash wiring connector to ignition switch

[Megunticook]

I was wondering if anybody had access to an old dash wiring harness--all I need is the connector that mates with the ignition switch wiring connector. With our trucks anything from 72-77 should work. It's white plastic housing with 6 male bullet terminals inside...I would need maybe 8 inches of wire left on it so I can splice it into my dash wiring.

Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be available locally. I will pay you for it and cover any postage.

Any of you junkyard hounds--all the following Chrysler vehicles should contain this connector (see list below).

Thanks!

Chrysler 300 71-70
Chrysler Cordoba 76-75
Chrysler Imperial 75-70
Chrysler New Yorker 76-70
Chrysler Newport 76-70
Chrysler Town & Country 76-70
Dodge Aspen 76
Dodge B Van 77-72
Dodge CB300 77-74
Dodge Challenger 74-70
Dodge Charger 76-70
Dodge Coronet 76-70
Dodge D/W Pickup 77-72
Dodge Dart 76-70
Dodge M300 74
Dodge M350 74
Dodge Monaco 76-70
Dodge P200 72
Dodge P300 72
Dodge Polara 73-70
Dodge Ramcharger 77-74
Dodge Royal Monaco 76-75
Plymouth Barracuda 74-70
Plymouth Belvedere 70
Plymouth Cricket 73-72
Plymouth Cuda 74-70
Plymouth Duster 76-70
Plymouth Fury 76-70
Plymouth Gran Fury 76-72
Plymouth GTX 71-70
Plymouth PB Van 76-74
Plymouth Roadrunner 75-70
Plymouth Satellite 74-70
Plymouth Scamp 76-71
Plymouth Superbird 70
Plymouth Trailduster 76-74
Plymouth Valiant 76-70
Plymouth Volare 76

[Megunticook]

Uh....please?

Believe it or not, none of the yards around these parts seem to have any seventies era Chrysler products.

[Delray Dude]

I'll keep an eye out for one....

[Megunticook]

thanks

[old rat]

I'll be running to my favorite salvage yard monday. Do you have a picture ? Alan G

[Megunticook]

I'll be running to my favorite salvage yard monday. Do you have a picture ? Alan G]

Here's a picture of the ignition switch harness it will plug into:

http://info.rockauto.com/SMP/US-88_TERMINAL.jpg

I assume it would look pretty similar to that, except inside it will have male bullet terminals. There should be 5 wires (possibly a 6th ground wire but probably not). It should be lose to another, similar connector that has the horn and turn signal wires (more wires, smaller gauge).

Thanks a million.

[old rat]

Will look when I go but looks like a lot of rain here the first part of the week. Alan G

[bherder]

Hey Meg, I was at the boneyard last week and was actually thinking about that for you.... But I wasn't really sure what I needed to get.... It shouldn't have been to hard, they have Mopars as far as the eye can see there....

I plan on going back there next week, so I'll see what I can find for you...

So, you need the 'male' connector... the end with the 'male' bullet connecters? Is there also the two loose wires that should come with it?

[Megunticook]

So, you need the 'male' connector... the end with the 'male' bullet connecters? Is there also the two loose wires that should come with it?

The end with the male bullet connectors, right. Most likely all the 5 wires will terminate in the white plastic thing (the black and red wires come loose as the picture shows because there are 1 or 2 applications (Dart I think) where those wires have a separate connector).

Just to confuse things, I think the plastic connector attached to the dash harness that houses the male connectors is "female" with respect to the connector that's attached to the ignition wiring (the one in the photo above).

Bottom line--just look for the bundle of 5 (or possibly 6) wires coming down the steering column from the ignition switch, find the connector, and grab the one it mates with. Just clip the wires about 8 inches or so from the connector and I'll be all set.

Just don't confuse it with a similar connector for the bundle of wires leading to the horn and turn signal switch--there are more wires in that one and they are smaller gauge (the ignition switch has 3 12-gauge wires).

Thanks!

[Megunticook]

Hey guys--while you're at the boneyard, would you be willing to pick up a couple headlight retaining rings? I've had a hell of a time finding any aftermarket rings that fit the mouning screws.

I actually had a guy online parting out a truck offer to sell me his rings (plus his side marker and signal/parking lights), I sent him a check and he emailed to say he received the check and would send the parts soon as it cleared, that was the last I heard and it's been about a month now. I can only hope he's just busy and hasn't gotten around to it, hate to think someone would steal a few bucks off a stranger like that...at least a fellow Dodge man!

[bherder]

OK, so it's a 'female' connector with 'male' bullet connectors. Connector has 8 holes, but only 5-6 wires connected.... looking at the picture you posted, it looks like the plastic housing has a funny corner on it (I imagine so you can only plug it together one way) ... Beveled corner it looks like, right?

I'll look for a couple of headlight rings for ya too... (Watch, you'll end up with 20 of them :D Guess it never hurts to have a few spares, eh? )

Yeah, it's starting to sound like that guy ripped you. I sure hope it wasn't somebody in THIS forum! I've sold lots of stuff on ebay and it doesn't take a whole month for a check to clear (In fact, if they have the same bank, and most time, even a different bank, you can take the check in and the teller can tell you if it's gonna 'clear' or not, right then and there..) ... Hope you didn't loose too much $$ ..... If you still need side maker and parking/turn signal lenses, I can look for those to if you'd like... I may have a couple of turn signal lenses out in my parts box, but not sure what kind of shape they're in. Have to look.

Anyway, I should be going to the boneyard on Tuesday, so 'll let ya know what I find...

[BaggedIndy]

I scored the ignition harness for you today. PM me your address and I will mail it out tomorrow.

[bherder]

Hey! There! See? We take care of our own, eh?? :D :D :D
Wives and girlfriends may come and go, but The Dodge Brothers always take care of each other.. ;)

[Megunticook]

I scored the ignition harness for you today. PM me your address and I will mail it out tomorrow.

Wow, thanks. I PM'd you. I owe you. What did it come out of?

[Megunticook]

I'll look for a couple of headlight rings for ya too... (Watch, you'll end up with 20 of them :D Guess it never hurts to have a few spares, eh? )

Great, thanks--well I suppose I can always pass extras on to others who need them. Right now my pass. side ring is held on by one screw and a 4-inch piece of aluminum tape!

Yeah, it's starting to sound like that guy ripped you. I sure hope it wasn't somebody in THIS forum! Hope you didn't loose too much $$ ..... If you still need side maker and parking/turn signal lenses, I can look for those to if you'd like

It's possible he just has been busy, or out of town, but it's not looking good. Too bad for him--I'm out $35, nothing to lose any sleep over, while he's skulking through life with no integrity and a world of bad karma dogging him. Pretty sad. Seemed like a decent guy (had a post on the forum over at Dodge Connection), even sent me a picture of his new truck. Hard to believe he'd skunk a fellow Dodge man over a lousy $35. My gut tells me he just hasn't gotten around to sending it, but maybe he just pocketed the dough.

I actually need the metal housing (my lenses are fine), on the park/turn lights, and the side markers only come as a unit. I patched mine back together OK, they work fine, but one turn/park signal was rusted so bad it had a big hole in the back, and one of the side marker lights is missing a piece of the housing, so water can get in there as well. Probably best if I replace them. If you can pick some ones up in good shape for cheap, I'll take 'em. But don't go too far out of your way or take too much of your time.

Now how about a radiator support...(just kidding--mine is rusted pretty bad but I will pull it out this summer and see if I can patch it back together)

[BaggedIndy]

I spoke to soon. I got the rounded ignition plug. I'm headed back Thursday or Friday and I will grab the right one. sorry.

[bherder]

It's possible he just has been busy, or out of town, but it's not looking good. Too bad for him--I'm out $35, nothing to lose any sleep over, while he's skulking through life with no integrity and a world of bad karma dogging him. Pretty sad. Seemed like a decent guy (had a post on the forum over at Dodge Connection), even sent me a picture of his new truck. Hard to believe he'd skunk a fellow Dodge man over a lousy $35. My gut tells me he just hasn't gotten around to sending it, but maybe he just pocketed the dough

MY gut feeling is this is a guy who is a FURD fan..... Maybe a Chebbie Lubber....

I actually need the metal housing (my lenses are fine), on the park/turn lights, and the side markers only come as a unit. I patched mine back together OK, they work fine, but one turn/park signal was rusted so bad it had a big hole in the back, and one of the side marker lights is missing a piece of the housing, so water can get in there as well. Probably best if I replace them. If you can pick some ones up in good shape for cheap, I'll take 'em. But don't go too far out of your way or take too much of your time.

I'm completely confused now..... Side markers are a plastic 'box' so to speak...
Turn signal/parking light lenses are (I assume yours and mine are the same) just plastic lenses (Metal backing/socket in the back... This is what you speak of? .... Shit, I'll just grab all I can get...... Hopefully it'll be the same (Never know when I might smack the next deer, soooo....)

Don't worry about my time Meg.... I only go into Spokane when it's on someone elses $$ .... I'm a 'water treament operator' so I'm running water samples into the lab at LEAST once a week.... (When it's not snowing)...
So.... If an hour or two gets lost on the way back... You know what I mean.... :D Musta' been bad traffic. Dogs were falling out of the sky. Uhhhh.... We were being invaded by Oregon....

:D :D :D

[Megunticook]

I'm completely confused now..... Side markers are a plastic 'box' so to speak...
Turn signal/parking light lenses are (I assume yours and mine are the same) just plastic lenses (Metal backing/socket in the back... This is what you speak of?

Sorry for the confusion. My park/turn signal lenses are fine (the ones under the grill). It's the metal housing behind the lens that's badly rusted on one of them. But it's probably easiest to just grab the whole assembly. These are identical on both driver and passenger sides, so doesn't matter which you get. As long as you're there, may as well grab a set though.

And of course the side markers are just a complete unit. It's my driver side that's got the chunk missing (unlike the park/turn signal lights, the side markers differ on each side). But maybe grab a set if you have time.

Don't worry about my time Meg.... I only go into Spokane when it's on someone elses $$

I'm self-employed, so I forget about how you don't necessarily worry about an hour here or there when you're "on the clock." But thanks for taking the trouble anyway.

If you happen to see any serviceable door-mounted mirrors, I could really use a set.

Sorry for the ever-expanding shopping list! I wish we had some old Dodges around here so I could hunt some of this stuff down myself. Most of the yard owners just laugh and shake their heads when I mention seventies Chrysler--I don't know why they're not around, maybe they all got scrapped years ago. You actually don't see many older Dodges on the road here, either. Definitely seems more like GM country.

[bherder]

Hey Meg, I scored everything but mirrors. PM me and we'll make arrangements ;)

[Megunticook]

Super--thanks so much!

From the photo it looks like you may have grabbed the plug for the turn signal and horn switch rather than ignition (the ignition one is white and only has 5 or in some cases 6 wires), but hey, it's pretty confusing down there under the dash!

I'll send you a PM now. Wish I could attach a cold one--I owe you!

[bherder]

The end that plugged into it was white... well, if it fits just use the connectors/wires you need.... the only other connector was that half-roundish one.... Maybe the donor rig had more options or something than yours? It's got to be something like that, otherwise, why would they even have made an 8-connector plug if they were ever only going to use 5-6 wires? ;)

[Rayven]

if ur interested i happen to have an nos dash harness for a 77

[Megunticook]

The end that plugged into it was white... well, if it fits just use the connectors/wires you need.... the only other connector was that half-roundish one.... Maybe the donor rig had more options or something than yours? It's got to be something like that, otherwise, why would they even have made an 8-connector plug if they were ever only going to use 5-6 wires? ;)

Hmmm...I guess it's not quite so straightforward as I was hoping it might be. The one in your photo looks just like my turn signal/horn connector--I can even see the green and white striped wire that goes to the horn button. On mine the 2 sets of connectors are different sizes so it probably won't work...but I'll hold onto it and maybe somebody on the forum at some point could use it.

I guess the "half-roundish" one you saw was the ignition switch--Chrysler must've changed that. What year and model did it come out of?

I really appreciate your help with this is any case. I'll get it wired up one way or another--even if I have to just cut out the connector and butt splice everything together.

[Megunticook]

if ur interested i happen to have an nos dash harness for a 77
Thanks, but save it for somebody that needs a complete harness. I wouldn't want to butcher it.

[bherder]

Hmmm...I guess it's not quite so straightforward as I was hoping it might be. The one in your photo looks just like my turn signal/horn connector--I can even see the green and white striped wire that goes to the horn button. On mine the 2 sets of connectors are different sizes so it probably won't work...but I'll hold onto it and maybe somebody on the forum at some point could use it.

I guess the "half-roundish" one you saw was the ignition switch--Chrysler must've changed that. What year and model did it come out of?

MMMMM...... 75' I think it was.... I did try to find the oldest one there, thinking it would be a better match to your 73' ... They must of changed something, although I can't think of a reason why they would.. Maybe some engineer justifying his job or something, I dunno....

I really appreciate your help with this is any case. I'll get it wired up one way or another--even if I have to just cut out the connector and butt splice everything together.

Damn, I knew I shoulda' grabbed both ends/connectors.... If you're gonna cut and splice connectors, might as well have ones that fit into each other, even if it's not quite 'factory' or year-specific, eh? Or.... If you can wait, I'll probably be going back again next week.... Can you post a pic of the actual connecter of the part you have in at hand? Or does it look exactly like the other photo you posted?

Well, I guess 5 out of 6 ain't bad though... :D I'll mail your package off today. BTW, PM me and I'll tell ya how to make the sidemarkers look like new...

[Megunticook]

MMMMM...... 75' I think it was

According to the info. I had from Standard Motor Products, 72-77 used that ignition switch with the white connector. Well, I guess it's not that simple.

Can you post a pic of the actual connecter of the part you have in at hand? Or does it look exactly like the other photo you posted?
It looks exactly like what I posted (except I installed the red and black 12 gauge wire terminals into 2 of the empty spaces in the connector)

Don't go through a lot of trouble--I think I finally found some male bullet connectors that will fit, so I can just crimp, solder, and shrink tube those into the dash harness and plug the 5 wires in individually to the ignition switch connector. Will have to be careful to get the shrink tubing positioned just right so the things plug in all the way but the metal portion remaining outside the connector is protected, but that should be doable.

Thanks again for your time.

As for the sidemarkers, you should post a new thread on your tips so others have the benefit of learning. I know about polishing the lenses and cleaning up the socket assembly but other than that I'm all ears.

I should do a post on reconditioning the turn signal/park lights, though--I even painted them "chrome" on the inside so they reflect maximum light for full brightness. Makes quite a difference, especially if the bulb circuit is clean and tight. I'll replace the one that had the hole in it, though, with what you're sending.

[Megunticook]

I just wanted to add a quick note that the dude who appeared to "take the money and run" finally responded to my email and apologized for the delay, says he shipped the stuff last week. I had a feeling he was legit...although it wouldn't have hurt if he had let me know what was up all this time.

Knew a true-blue Dodge man wouldn't shaft his fellow Mopar mate.

So now I'm the proud owner of FOUR headlight retaining rings, 2 sets of side maker lamps, and three park/signal lamp housings (thanks to you, Bherder, whose package arrived Friday--that was damn fast for coast-to-coast shipping).

If anybody out there needs any rings or lights, just let me know and I'd be glad to share the wealth.