09 5.7 hemi engine

[dline]

380hp, 404tq

variable cam timing, (no more easy cam swaps)

front mount throttle body, might be a nice intake to have.

[05whitehemi]

Thats real nice to hear, Where did you get the info??

[dline]

from that 09 ram unveil in detroit for the auto show.

http://www.deferomedia.com/chrysler/open_window_script.htm

[rzrbackhemi]

i dont like the new style. looks like a chevy/toyota/ford hybrid.

[sca]

Meet comp.....

[400rwhphemi]

380hp, 404tq

variable cam timing, (no more easy cam swaps)

front mount throttle body, might be a nice intake to have.


it isn't that hard pal..you know some diesels have that also..

i can't wait to work on a 09! to bad they are ugly

[dline]

i posted this in 3rd gen so all the performance guys would see it. look in 4th gen performance now, even though this engine could be any vehicle.

[05whitehemi]

So you guy don't like it Hmmm, I Like it maybe I'll have to get me one. The variable cam timing could be a good thing as long as they didn't have to make them OHCs.

The rear suspension Sounds good huh' doesn't sound like it will be hopping around much.

[dline]

i love the new ram, specially the interior, and it'll ride nice, and making a 2wd possibly with 4.10's from the factory.

[sawcut64]

I like the look of the new Ram a lot, glad they increased the power but I would've like something more around 400HP and 425TQ. That in a RC SB would be awesome!!!

[jamesnmandy]

wonder how long it will take the tuner companies to come out with a programmer for it.....i bet it uses a very different engine controller design, and add the VCT and changed MDS....LOL, we will get a 2009 Ram before we will get a Predator for the 2004+ Ram....LOL

[05whitehemi]

I like the look of the new Ram a lot, glad they increased the power but I would've like something more around 400HP and 425TQ. That in a RC SB would be awesome!!!

The hard part with that probably would be emissions, heck just getting that HP/TQ out of a small block and passing emissions is probably hard enough with out some sort of forced induction.

[sawcut64]

The hard part with that probably would be emissions, heck just getting that HP/TQ out of a small block and passing emissions is probably hard enough with out some sort of forced induction.
More cubes is the answer!!! :D Oh and I want a solid 22 MPG out of it!! :rck:

[hemi1569]

uhhhh....
Instead of putting horseshit in the street, and wearing matching caarhart jackets, and having cattle run around, don't you think they could have LISTENED to the people and offered a 6 speed manual in a 1500???????
I think that might be a bit more important and sway buyers then a damn heated steering wheel.

[DAYTONA81]

i like them and dont they weight less than the tundra if so that means 13.9-14.0 in a rc/sb hemi, and i hope the manifold fits ours maybe worth 15 hp

[hemi1569]

What rpm does this engine make its hp/tq at

[sawcut64]

What's up with the intake, I missed that part?

[Prism]

What rpm does this engine make its hp/tq at

I read a PDF file that had all the specs on it and it said 380hp at 5600rpm and 404ftlbs of torque at 4000rpm. It has 10.5:1 compression ratio too. :D From the looks of it; it seems to be getting most of the power boost from the increased compression ratio and VCT IMHO.

[dline]

got that pdf file??? apparently that engine picture above is a little out of date.

[Prism]

Try this:

http://www.dodgetalk.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=174085

SCasey posted it in the 4th Gen Ram General Talk section titled "2009 Ram 1500: Specifications". :rck:

[dline]

ENGINE: 5.7-LITER HEMI® V-8
Availability______________________________________ ____________________________________Optional
Type and Description_______________________________________ ___________90 degree V-8, liquid-cooled
Displacement______________________________________ _______________________345 cu in (5654 cu cm)
Bore x Stroke____________________________________________ _____3.92 in x 3.58 in (99.5 mm x 90.9 mm)
Valve System_____________________________Variable Cam Timing, Pushrod-operated overhead 16 valves,
hydraulic lifters with roller followers
Fuel Injection_________________________________________ ___Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless
Construction_____________________________Deep-skirt cast iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps,
aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers
Compression Ratio_____________________________________________ ________________________10.5:1
Power (SAE net)______________________________________________ _____380 bhp (283 kW) @ 5600 rpm
Torque (SAE net)______________________________________________ ____404 lb-ft (548 N·m) @ 4000 rpm
Max. Engine Speed_____________________________________________ ____________________5800 rpm
Fuel Requirement_____________________________Unleaded mid-grade, 89 octane (R+M)/2 – recommended,
Unleaded regular, 87 octane (R+M)/2 – acceptable
Oil Capacity__________________________________________ ____________________________7.0 qt (6.6 L)
Coolant Capacity__________________________________________ _____________________14.0 qt (13.33 L)
Emissions Controls_______________________________3-way catalytic converter and internal engine features4
Estimated EPA Fuel Economy (MPG City/Hwy):
Two-Wheel Drive_____________________________________________ ______________________13/19
Four-Wheel Drive_____________________________________________ ______________________13/18

[Prism]

It gets a little bit better gas mileage: 13/18 for 4x4's and 13/19 for 2wds.

[Prism]

I'd like to see what the 2wd RCSB R/T model can do with the 4.10's??

[dodge3471]

it isn't that hard pal..you know some diesels have that also..

i can't wait to work on a 09! to bad they are uglyDo the coal burners that have VVT camshafts have a bunch of aftermarket camshafts available to install in them? You could just remove and reinstall the stock Hemi VVT camshaft for practice if you want to?

I think what dline was trying to say is that it may be a while before someone has an aftermarket VVT cam available for the new Hemi? Are any aftermarket VVT camshafts available for the 2007 6.2L chevy yet?

You guys think you have tuning rough now? Throw in being able to run any camshaft centerline that you want at the click of a button at take a guess at what that does to your spark and fuel delivery requirements?

[tweekin04]

I'll stick with my 04. I can't imagine the price on the 09. My truck will be paid off in a year, so the money I will save without a payment is a whole lot more than I would save in fuel. There isn't enough gains for me to justify the possible 35-45grand for an 09. For my $500 a month payment thats enough to do some sick ass mods in a year. The other reason is that the 09 is just Ugly. IMO

[SILVER DAYTONA]

The intake is an electronically controlled flapper gate that closes off half of the intake runner at low engine speed design to increase torque on the bottom end and opens up the whole intake runner for hp on the top end.Go to allpar.com and you can read about it. I dont think you will be putting that intake on your 3rd generation ram.

[spedly]

Do the coal burners that have VVT camshafts have a bunch of aftermarket camshafts available to install in them? You could just remove and reinstall the stock Hemi VVT camshaft for practice if you want to?

I think what dline was trying to say is that it may be a while before someone has an aftermarket VVT cam available for the new Hemi? Are any aftermarket VVT camshafts available for the 2007 6.2L chevy yet?

You guys think you have tuning rough now? Throw in being able to run any camshaft centerline that you want at the click of a button at take a guess at what that does to your spark and fuel delivery requirements?

you can use the old cams but need a ls7 z06 cam sproket,ls2 timing cover and you leave the connector unplugged i believe thats what they are doing anyways.

[SilsHemi]

wonder how long it will take the tuner companies to come out with a programmer for itI may be able to can get you some information about that. ;)

Sil

[SmokinMirror]

I read a PDF file that had all the specs on it and it said 380hp at 5600rpm and 404ftlbs of torque at 4000rpm. It has 10.5:1 compression ratio too. :D From the looks of it; it seems to be getting most of the power boost from the increased compression ratio and VCT IMHO.


Chrysler is fibbing. This engine makes most of its power around 6000 RPM.... Its a 400hp engine period. The tranny will lose some of that power, so Chrysler can get away with its bull sh*t. This truck is capable of getting into the mid 13s with bolt ons.

[spedly]

Chrysler is fibbing. This engine makes most of its power around 6000 RPM.... Its a 400hp engine period. The tranny will lose some of that power, so Chrysler can get away with its bull sh*t. This truck is capable of getting into the mid 13s with bolt ons.


so are the 3rd gens

[jamesnmandy]

I'll stick with my 04. I can't imagine the price on the 09. My truck will be paid off in a year, so the money I will save without a payment is a whole lot more than I would save in fuel. There isn't enough gains for me to justify the possible 35-45grand for an 09. For my $500 a month payment thats enough to do some sick ass mods in a year. The other reason is that the 09 is just Ugly. IMO


yep, no payment is worth it, plus the ability to mod to your liking pretty much

[Prism]

The prices alone will most likely mean I'm keeping my truck around for a while. I'll wait until the light duty diesel makes its way into the 1500's in 2010 to make any decisions.

[SmokinMirror]

so are the 3rd gens


Not pushing factory 20s with full weight. This truck is noticably faster.

[Freeze215]

It's funny that Dodge is getting more power out of the pushrod 5.7 HEMI without headers than the DOHC Toyota 5.7 gets with them. Simplicity rules! :rck:

[4x4_guy]

you can get a 6 speed manual but you have to live with the 3.7 V6
only automatics in the V8's which really sucks

[RubberFrog]

Look at all this hatin' on a motor that isn't even out yet.

[Prism]

I"m not hatin' on it at all. :D

[ibonit77]

Does Anyone Know Where I Could Find The Governer On A 2004 Dodge Hemi 5.7? Or Where I Can Get A Diagram Of It?

[gravydavy]

He would be in the state capitol! I don't know if you want a diagram of that!

[fromanhb]

It's funny that Dodge is getting more power out of the pushrod 5.7 HEMI without headers than the DOHC Toyota 5.7 gets with them. Simplicity rules! :rck:

What bugs the heck out of me is the guys with DOHC V8's claim that pushrod motors have no top end, the HEMI has no power above 4000 RPM, etc. Most of these people just assume because something has more cams that is inherently going to produce more power and rev higher. 5.7L NASCAR engines produce ~700 HP and are N/A pushrod motors, even Toyota's NASCAR engine is pushrod.
A DOHC engine does have the advantage of being able to independently control cam timing on the intake and exhaust valves, which is why the 5.7L tundra engine produces peak torque at 3600 and peak power at 5600.

I drive a new tundra but the HEMI engine has so much potential it's ridiculous, the head design is very efficient in terms of airflow and the partial hemispherical heads allow for some pretty big inline valves.

[Freeze215]

What bugs the heck out of me is the guys with DOHC V8's claim that pushrod motors have no top end,
They clearly don't understand how head design affects engine performance. Regardless of the cam architecture, if the head won't flow efficiently at high RPM, the top end will suffer. Look at the old Mopar Magnum 360. Plenty of torque, but HP sucked. Why? It wasn't a result of the pushrods. The heads were crap. Same thing with the Titan engine. Lots of low-end, but it falls on its face at 5500 RPM. All the variable valve-timing in the world in a DOHC mill can't make the heads flow any better than they're capable of.

The Tundra 5.7 is a damn good engine, and it looks like the rest of the powertrain is well thought-out, too. But, I think the DOHC setup is more complicated than it needs to be. Throw a set of Thorley Tri-Y's on the HEMI from the factory and the 'Yota won't be able to touch it.

[Th4t5thew4y1t15]

man i dont know about you guys, but there are some pretty good things about this ram that i'm excited about. some of you seem to not like it at all? or are your just picking at what you can?

[fromanhb]

The tundra motor seems complicated but in today's technological era it's not out of the ordinary.
I don't think headers alone are enough to warrant a "won't be able to touch it" The tundra puts out between 310-320 hp to the wheels in stock form.

Here are a couple .pdf files on the tundra engine I found for any tech heads out there. Please feel free to contribute any articles or .pdf's for the hemi engine as well (especially the new one if possible). I got a good erticle on the Hemi too: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0403phr_chrysler_hemi_57_liter_345ci_engine_review/

[Th4t5thew4y1t15]

Has anyone seen anything about how much these are going to cost? How about the Sport?

[SmokinMirror]

The tundra motor seems complicated but in today's technological era it's not out of the ordinary.
I don't think headers alone are enough to warrant a "won't be able to touch it" The tundra puts out between 310-320 hp to the wheels in stock form.

Here are a couple .pdf files on the tundra engine I found for any tech heads out there. Please feel free to contribute any articles or .pdf's for the hemi engine as well (especially the new one if possible). I got a good erticle on the Hemi too: http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0403phr_chrysler_hemi_57_liter_345ci_engine_review/



Test drove a tundra at work today, not impressed with the performance as I expected with the 4.30 gear ratio 6 speed and 380hp... The new Rams will be hard to touch (to say the least) :D .

[fromanhb]

Test drove a tundra at work today, not impressed with the performance as I expected with the 4.30 gear ratio 6 speed and 380hp... The new Rams will be hard to touch (to say the least) :D .

One thing I have noticed with the tundra is you REALLY have to get on the throttle to get that engine to breathe. Although they designed the truck to perform that way by calibrating the electronic throttle in a non-linear fashion, ie. pedal is depressed 50% the throttle valve is only 40% open. In tow haul mode when the pedal is depressed 50% the throttle valve is open approx. 65%

The new ram should definitely produce about equal times as the tundra on paper, but the tundra will have a slight edge due to a more efficient tranny, broader torque curve, and 4:30 gearing. My guess is stock for stock a race will be dependent on the driver more then anything else since power and weight are almost equal. Although we have a guy with a tundra RCSB 2wd 5.7 running 13.9 with dual super 40's (same setup as mine) and a CAI, everything else is stock.

[SmokinMirror]

One thing I have noticed with the tundra is you REALLY have to get on the throttle to get that engine to breathe. Although they designed the truck to perform that way by calibrating the electronic throttle in a non-linear fashion, ie. pedal is depressed 50% the throttle valve is only 40% open. In tow haul mode when the pedal is depressed 50% the throttle valve is open approx. 65%

The new ram should definitely produce about equal times as the tundra on paper, but the tundra will have a slight edge due to a more efficient tranny, broader torque curve, and 4:30 gearing. My guess is stock for stock a race will be dependent on the driver more then anything else since power and weight are almost equal. Although we have a guy with a tundra RCSB 2wd 5.7 running 13.9 with dual super 40's (same setup as mine) and a CAI, everything else is stock.


Hemi777 ran a 13.9 With a Datona RC Ram pushing 20s and only mods were SuperChips and cold air intake...

[hemi1569]

Hemi777 ran a 13.9 With a Datona RC Ram pushing 20s and only mods were SuperChips and cold air intake...
There were more mods than that... This was discussed in length at the time and it caused a stir... Not trying to stir at all... Just that hemi450hp ran a 13.9 with superchips, intake, exhaust, cutout, and i think something else.

[HEMI450HP]

There were more mods than that... This was discussed in length at the time and it caused a stir... Not trying to stir at all... Just that hemi450hp ran a 13.9 with superchips, intake, exhaust (longtubes, cutout, and i think something else.
That was all I had at the time. wbw2, quick03, and MrDestinE all ran similar times with almost the exact same mods as well.

[Boost'nHEMI]

the new ram is gonna be sick! i already talked to STS about a turbo and they said it will fit for the 09 ...they just need to get the tuning down...i also like the new style intake..kinda looks like the 6.1L...also about this new cam..how is this gonna affect aftermarket cam swaps? are you still gonna be able to do it?

[fromanhb]

the new ram is gonna be sick! i already talked to STS about a turbo and they said it will fit for the 09 ...they just need to get the tuning down...i also like the new style intake..kinda looks like the 6.1L...also about this new cam..how is this gonna affect aftermarket cam swaps? are you still gonna be able to do it?

As long as the cam manufacturer builds the cam to specs that work with the VVT I don't see why it should be a problem. In fact aftermarket guys may be able take more advantage of the VVT.

[zakko69]

I'm actually suprised that it has taken Dodge this long to add VVT to the Hemi. It's already gone in the Viper and its rev limit was increased significantly. More efficiency, and more power is nice, as for cam swapping, someone will make something, and I'm not afraid to learn how to work on a VVT engine. I'm in the market for a new truck, but I want to see what a 1/2 ton diesel would be like. It's going to have to be good to beat this.

[TheBossHEMI]

Can't wait!

[Hemi Pete]

I am not a big fan of variable valve timing; secondarily, because it is more difficult and also costlier to repair than standard fixed timing camshafts. :)

While variable valve timing usually offers performance improvement, those improvements are minimal in a good deal of cases. :IDEA:

[TheBossHEMI]

Valve timing? I was told it's cam timing on this motor. Boy I dunno anymore.

[threetwos]

The cam is from www.mechadyne-int.com too bad they didnt use their VLT,(Rocker arms) as well,lol.

[threetwos]

The cam uses cam within a cam technology and is actuated by the oil control solenoid. This enables the PCM to regulate the amount of lift/duration the engine 'sees' thereby increasing the amount of fuel/air that enters the combustion chamber enhancing power. What would be sweet would be a VLT/VVT DOHC 6.4 Hemi!!!!But then again Dodge is trying to make this engine affordable and competitive with the other brands. :D

[Zimba]

uhhhh....
Instead of putting horseshit in the street, and wearing matching caarhart jackets, and having cattle run around, don't you think they could have LISTENED to the people and offered a 6 speed manual in a 1500???????
I think that might be a bit more important and sway buyers then a damn heated steering wheel.

instead of whining about a truck built for work purposes not having a 6 speed transmission for your straight line enjoyment maybe you should of bought a mustang? or a charger? or go buy an butt ugly 2 door toyota to run 13s like every other person who doesnt even know where the hitch is on their truck

[hemi1569]

instead of whining about a truck built for work purposes not having a 6 speed transmission for your straight line enjoyment maybe you should of bought a mustang? or a charger? or go buy an butt ugly 2 door toyota to run 13s like every other person who doesnt even know where the hitch is on their truck
Uh excuse me king zimba... BUT i would have to say if you polled all the hemi owners, more than likely you would see 1/2 of them would opt for a manual transmission if it was setup like the six speed in the 4.7
Less problems, less parasitic loss
I don't want a ford, and i need my truck for carrying stuff. Maybe you should put your effort into helping people and being informative rather than filling this forum with diarrhea of the mouth like you just did

[Zimba]

Uh excuse me king zimba... BUT i would have to say if you polled all the hemi owners, more than likely you would see 1/2 of them would opt for a manual transmission if it was setup like the six speed in the 4.7
Less problems, less parasitic loss
I don't want a ford, and i need my truck for carrying stuff. Maybe you should put your effort into helping people and being informative rather than filling this forum with diarrhea of the mouth like you just did
your trying to tell me to be informative while you make redneck gestures that are just a waste of time to read?, the only reason you have problems with the hemi tranny is because your modding a truck that isnt meant to be modded there not racing vehicles nor designed to be, although they have the potential to be

come on man rams arnt designed for speed and if they were they wouldnt sell for shit, look at ford why do you think the f150 is the best selling vehicle in north america for how many years? it sure isnt the fastest either...

it would be interesting to see a 2 door 6 speed manual hemi though :rck:

[hemi1569]

your trying to tell me to be informative while you make redneck gestures that are just a waste of time to read?, the only reason you have problems with the hemi tranny is because your modding a truck that isnt meant to be modded there not racing vehicles nor designed to be, although they have the potential to be

come on man rams arnt designed for speed and if they were they wouldnt sell for shit, look at ford why do you think the f150 is the best selling vehicle in north america for how many years? it sure isnt the fastest either...

it would be interesting to see a 2 door 6 speed manual hemi though :rck:
Redneck gestures? Not me bud...
That was all Cerebrus' marketing campaign, they chose to do it, i simply said that instead of going all out with cows and cowboy boots, they could have at least offered a manual transmission. BTW, the lightning is a sport performance truck, it beats MANY sports cars, is that not meant to be modded? The hemis' cylinder heads flow better than the damn ls1's for crying out loud. I am simply saying if they would have taken the time to really listen to what people want, they would have found that is one of the things WE want.
I can do without a damn heated steering wheel... Don't you think a transmission option is more important especiAlly since some people tow and Hate the fact that the auto trans is limiting the operformance up long grades?
The fact that they are getting away from the tough truck it was and turning it into a executives' truck is dissapointing to me... At least OFFER the manual...

[TheBossHEMI]

A "truck" was never designed for speed. That's not the point, and if someone doesn't get that, it's gonna take more than a post to explain it.

But if they didn't think the Ram would sell as a performance vehicle, why do you even bother putting a motor in a "truck" that peaks it's torque curve at 4,000 rpm! Why put a Viper motor in a truck? There are people that want that, and they know it.

[SmokinMirror]

Maybe the dudes with fast trucks want their trucks faster because they are not supposed to be...

[hemi1569]

I like to have the best out of my vehicle's. After a while of driving them, it gets boring. I just modify them to bring back the fun i had when it was new.

[frostbitte]

I wonder if this new engine is underrated? I mean it's the exact same HP as the Tundra and only slightly a bit more torque. I find that a bit strange. Usually when a new engine is released, compared to its competition, it's usually a bit higher by say 10 HP or 10 lbs/ft of torque. The last time I saw something as close was when the Titan came out. I'm still sure their 5.6 is underratted. When it was first released, it was rated at 305 HP and then suddenly it was bumped up to 317HP.


Frostbitte

[cc1999]

Well guys its official GM has just upped he ante, the 2009 GM order guides just got released. http://eogld.ecomm.gm.com/

The mighty 6.2L 403hp 417lbs of torque motor just went mainstream, along with the 6speed auto, they are as of there 2009 models, available in the Z71s and the AT pkg trucks, no longer just the denalli in awd form its now in there mainstream line.

[threetwos]

It's a much bigger engine displacement wise than the Dodge/Ford or Tundra/Nissan engines that are all smaller than that. I think I would rather have a diesel than a large gas engine anyways. Typical of G.M. to do that when most arent even buying those large engined gas vehicles. Do they still produce the venerable 454/502 in 3/4 ton trucks suburbans or denali type behemouths?

[cc1999]

No the 454,496,502 are no longer in any of there trucks, mainly do to emmisions. The 6.2 is there big gun now, and it startd out only availble in the escalades then the denalli.

The sad thing is I am not going to be at all surprised if it does not beat the Ram in fuel economy ratings with the 6 speed that GM puts behind it.

[threetwos]

Oh, I see. Yeah, the tranny will definitely play a key role in greater fuel economy, but the engineers will have a lot of work ahead of them to beat the fuel economy standards of the smaller plants especially with the VVT or Cam in Cam tech that Chrysler is going to hopefully utilize in the upcoming 09/10 Hemi's from what I am reading and lerning in school. Of course G.M. uses those technologies as well so it's gonna be interesting isnt it!

[cc1999]

I hope that a lot of those Fed fuel economy standards that just came out, have some loop holes in them, or our trucks are likely going to suffer a lot in a few years from now. This could very well be the last hurraaaa for trucks that actually have real capabilties.

Anyway, I am still working my way through the new GM orderguides, it looks like that 6speed auto is going to be available on the more than just the 6.2L. The 6 spped auto is showing to be availble on there 5.3L,6.0L and the 6.2L. That 5.3L with the current 4 speed behind it was one of if not the top fuel economy rated truck on the market, with that 6 speed it should see 19-20+mpg on the highway easy now.

[TheBossHEMI]

The 8.1 they had in the HD trucks is gone? That's 500c.i.

[RoyJ]

Yup, that one's gone.

Regarding the 6.2L, it probably won't beat the new HEMI in mileage, rated or actual. However, I can almost gurrantee it'll beat the HEMI in performance, mainly due to our lucklaster 545RFE.

Dodge needs to get those sequential dual clutches out ASAP if they want to have a lead in performance and economy.

[xSkyLinedx]

I read a PDF file that had all the specs on it and it said 380hp at 5600rpm and 404ftlbs of torque at 4000rpm. It has 10.5:1 compression ratio too. :D From the looks of it; it seems to be getting most of the power boost from the increased compression ratio and VCT IMHO.

Sounds like a good motor for a car.

[Lead Head]

Sounds like a good motor for a car.

Peak numbers don't mean anything.

Which would you rather have
A motor that has 300 ft-lbs @ 1200 RPM and peaks at 380 ft-lbs @ 3500 RPM
or a motor that has 300 ft-lbs @ 1200 rpm and peaks at 380 ft-lbs @ 5200 RPM.

You'd want the second motor. It has the same low end torque, but keeps the high torque up for a much longer amount of time, so when you want to accelerate fast, it won't feel like the motor is running out of breath.

The hemi engines are known to have ~90% of their full rated torque available at 1200 RPM

[Jettix2]

I'm ashamed to admit it, but my parents have an 08 Escalade AWD with the 6.2L, and they're averaging about 19.4mpg with mostly rural highway (55-60mph) driving.

That's pretty impressive for such a big vehicle..........I'm betting the Silverado/Sierra will get a few MPG better when they get that motor, because they're a tad lighter. Wonder if the 6.2L option gets you AWD (as in the Escalade and Denali) or a part-time 4WD t-case?

[frostbitte]

Hahahah, OMG, I was right. Dodge did underrate the 09 Hemi. Now they're stating it's 390 HP and 407 lb-ft of tourque. Not a huge jump, but probably just enough to saw buyers who like to look at "numbers". :rck:

http://www.pickuptrucks.com/html/2009/dodge/ram/powertrain/powertrain-figures-for-2009-ram-upgraded.html


Frostbitte

[nickb304]

ah you beat me too it!! just read that over on autoblog. impressive. i should have waited a year, but then again they will probably have the same hp and keep bumping up the mpgs by the time i need another new one.

[05hemiregcab]

I like the look of the new Ram a lot, glad they increased the power but I would've like something more around 400HP and 425TQ. That in a RC SB would be awesome!!!

Hell with an intake and some sort of programmer you will more than likely see that! Most definate in the R/T models..

I like the new look! With a 2/4 drop and a little sporter rims that thing would look MEAN!!!!

[tajm]

Maybe the dudes with fast trucks want their trucks faster because they are not supposed to be...

thats probably the most true statement ive read on here in a very very long time

[SmokinMirror]

*Its like a fine art. Either you get it, or you dont.

[4.56'd5.7]

uhhhh....
Instead of putting horseshit in the street, and wearing matching caarhart jackets, and having cattle run around, don't you think they could have LISTENED to the people and offered a 6 speed manual in a 1500???????
I think that might be a bit more important and sway buyers then a damn heated steering wheel.

amen

[Shadow]

uhhhh....
Instead of putting horseshit in the street, and wearing matching caarhart jackets, and having cattle run around, don't you think they could have LISTENED to the people and offered a 6 speed manual in a 1500???????
I think that might be a bit more important and sway buyers then a damn heated steering wheel.

Yes, couldn't have said it better myself. I would more than likely trade my 08 with 5000 miles on it and lose my a$$ trading just to have a 6-speed, 1500 Hemi. I can tell you right now, this automatic transmission will not hold up towing. That's the only thing I miss about my old 4.7 5-speed Dakota, control while towing and winter driving.

[hemi1569]

The trannies aren't that bad, there is a member on here(catsltd) that has a 03 2500 hemi and tows 10,000# every day and it held up like a champ

[Lead Head]

The RFE series of transmissions are MUCH more durable then the old REs they replaced.

Also, they didn't listen to the people asking for manuals, because there weren't enough asking FOR them, and there wasn't enough buying them when they did offer them. It doesn't make sense financially to keep doing R&D on a drive train no one is buying. Maybe when chrysler starts getting back into the black, they will start offering more options and combinations.

[SmokinMirror]

The RFE series of transmissions are MUCH more durable then the old REs they replaced.

Also, they didn't listen to the people asking for manuals, because there weren't enough asking FOR them, and there wasn't enough buying them when they did offer them. It doesn't make sense financially to keep doing R&D on a drive train no one is buying. Maybe when chrysler starts getting back into the black, they will start offering more options and combinations.

QFTT

[john.colorado]

consider chysler to be out of business before they put out anything new

[Lead Head]

consider chysler to be out of business before they put out anything new

It is that same thinking that puts companies out of business. When companies are doing bad, you should be buying MORE of their products.

[SmokinMirror]

Thats right lead head.

Chrysler aint goin anywhere, but the ignorant will think otherwise

[m6z]

You guys bitching about no 6 speed manual and it should of had more power.... I would guess that the rc sb hemi is the quickest factory trucks. Hell If you want a gm rc sb the biggest motor you can get is the 5.3 and the 4 speed auto.

[RubberFrog]

Thanks for posting.

[hemi1569]

Shoulda put a 6 speed in it.... Lame

[emsdad]

I keep reading about guys wanting the 6-speed tranny. I really do not understand the 6-speed concept and why it is so important. I also read that some other manufacturers offer 6-speed, why not buy their product if it is that important? One of the best trannies ever made was a chevy 2speed powerglide, and then its predessor turbo 350. I look at it this way more gears more possibility for break. Thats just my 2cents.

[hemi1569]

Maybe because people like rowing their own gears, not having to worry about trannies blowing up because of 2nd prime, the tuning options you would not have to worry about by pulling map voltage... They should have at least offered it...

[emsdad]

WOW, I would say you know what you are talking about. Thats all french to me.