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kmu
01-05-2008, 09:38 PM
Hi guys,

Just in case theres anyone around here, anyone got any news on the suspension for the 09 2500 trucks?

We know theres a coilover on the rear for the 1500, there must be something nice changing on the 2500, 3500 trucks.

CUL8R
01-05-2008, 09:54 PM
If Dodge is on the same schedule for the 4th gen Ram that it followed for the 3rd gen, it may be a while until that question is answered. The 3rd gen 1500 came out in 2002, but the 2500 and 3500s weren't redone until 2003.

FreeLantz
01-05-2008, 11:48 PM
We should know more come next week, when the redesigned 1500 is introduced at the NAIAS in Detroit.

I'm still betting the HD's run one model year behind the 1500 changing to the new style - mostly because of the investment just put into the Ram 4500/5500 in '07.

kmu
01-06-2008, 01:44 PM
Well from what it looks like the new 1500 will be a prerunning machine with coilovers at all 4 corners.

Mudchucker
01-06-2008, 05:16 PM
Hi guys,

Just in case theres anyone around here, anyone got any news on the suspension for the 09 2500 trucks?

We know theres a coilover on the rear for the 1500, there must be something nice changing on the 2500, 3500 trucks.

Wow,.. they are going back in time,.. Seems a waste if you ask me,.. they must have stole some ideas from the '67-'72.

On a side note,.. it will be waaayyyy easier to lower the truck for a drop. The only problem I see is re-indexing the rear diff for driveline angle.

Josh Brown
01-06-2008, 05:29 PM
Wow,.. they are going back in time,.. Seems a waste if you ask me,.. they must have stole some ideas from the '67-'72.

On a side note,.. it will be waaayyyy easier to lower the truck for a drop. The only problem I see is re-indexing the rear diff for driveline angle.


My thoughts exactly, coils are great for the front of a truck or on all 4's for cars and light suv's but to get load capactiy for hauling is tough to do with coils. The old chev's come to mind. No HD truck out there has coils.

RobGregory
01-07-2008, 10:45 AM
well I'm not real sure on this one, but could it be like the old corvette rear ends where its basically just like IFS with the stationary differential? If so driveline angles would not be affected.

dline
01-07-2008, 10:53 AM
the 1500's will be just like the durangos in the rear with the coils.

JackedDak03
01-07-2008, 03:38 PM
My thoughts exactly, coils are great for the front of a truck or on all 4's for cars and light suv's but to get load capactiy for hauling is tough to do with coils. The old chev's come to mind. No HD truck out there has coils.

I'm pretty sure the GM Large SUV's have been running coil spring rear suspensions for years now (1999?) and still have high towing capacity. For a 1500 series truck, I can see it making sense, on a 2500 no way.

DodgeHemi345
01-07-2008, 05:26 PM
I'm pretty sure the GM Large SUV's have been running coil spring rear suspensions for years now (1999?) and still have high towing capacity. For a 1500 series truck, I can see it making sense, on a 2500 no way.

They do. All of the escalades and suburbans and all of them do.

Mudchucker
01-07-2008, 05:56 PM
The coil suspension is made for comfort ride and handling. Not hauling a 700lb atv or sled in the back. Or maybe a load of topsoil for the garden,.. IMO its a big mistake for Dodge to do this,..

JackedDak03
01-10-2008, 08:57 AM
The coil suspension is made for comfort ride and handling. Not hauling a 700lb atv or sled in the back. Or maybe a load of topsoil for the garden,.. IMO its a big mistake for Dodge to do this,..

Hmm...Check out the new Heavy Duty's (and Dodge Ram's since 1994) using coil spring front suspensions without problem-now take that, add a cummins or whatever deisel, then toss on a 9' V Plow and see how they hold up- Hint- they hold up just fine.

rlk340dust
01-11-2008, 12:12 AM
We should know more come next week, when the redesigned 1500 is introduced at the NAIAS in Detroit.

I'm still betting the HD's run one model year behind the 1500 changing to the new style - mostly because of the investment just put into the Ram 4500/5500 in '07.

If this if true, do you think the mega cab will stay for the HD's? I want a 2500 mega cab but I'm not ready to buy yet.

Sledman
01-12-2008, 10:02 PM
For 2009, a multi-link coil-spring rear suspension will provides improved ride and handling characteristics with no loss of capability. A coil-spring setup centralizes and absorbs bumps and impacts, while reducing the amount of friction in the spring system. This setup also weighs 40 pounds less than a leaf-spring configuration. Coil-spring setups are commonly used in heavy-duty applications such as semi trailers and railroad cars.

Mudchucker
01-12-2008, 10:12 PM
For 2009, a multi-link coil-spring rear suspension will provides improved ride and handling characteristics with no loss of capability. A coil-spring setup centralizes and absorbs bumps and impacts, while reducing the amount of friction in the spring system. This setup also weighs 40 pounds less than a leaf-spring configuration. Coil-spring setups are commonly used in heavy-duty applications such as semi trailers and railroad cars.

Sounds interesting, will see how a test drive goes this year when they are released,.. Always have to test drive new models when they come out,.. even if one is not intending on a new purchase :D

bucci
01-13-2008, 06:21 AM
The capacities might be the same for the new coil link suspension to start off with, but will its ability to keep these capacities be comparable with the leaf spring suspension; or will these capacities decrease at a faster rate with use and time making these vehicles only good for carrying coolers and lawn chairs?

JackedDak03
01-14-2008, 01:07 PM
With the coils in the back, it makes it easier to replace the coils with air bags- then you'll tow more than anyone.

04Ram2500Hemi
01-14-2008, 02:52 PM
We should know more come next week, when the redesigned 1500 is introduced at the NAIAS in Detroit.

I'm still betting the HD's run one model year behind the 1500 changing to the new style - mostly because of the investment just put into the Ram 4500/5500 in '07.

If that's the case, you'll be hearing from me in 2010 for a price quote :D

byrdawg13
01-15-2008, 01:59 PM
Hmm...Check out the new Heavy Duty's (and Dodge Ram's since 1994) using coil spring front suspensions without problem-now take that, add a cummins or whatever deisel, then toss on a 9' V Plow and see how they hold up- Hint- they hold up just fine.



there is a standard stationary weight in the frontof the truck...the engine. coil springs in the rear any truck designed for towing or hauling is a big mistake. there is nota heavy duty work truck in the market 1.5 tons and under that uses coil springs.its like that for a reason. coils offer a better ride.....leafs offer beter durability and handling, and handle loads better. if your getting a truck for the "RIDE" get a ridgeline. this isa big mistake to put coils in the rear of a 1/2 ton pickup.

RAJ
01-15-2008, 09:27 PM
my bets are that they dont change much on the front and in the back maybe have longer leaf packs(for better ride) with a rear sway bar

JackedDak03
01-16-2008, 10:06 AM
there is a standard stationary weight in the frontof the truck...the engine. coil springs in the rear any truck designed for towing or hauling is a big mistake. there is nota heavy duty work truck in the market 1.5 tons and under that uses coil springs.its like that for a reason. coils offer a better ride.....leafs offer beter durability and handling, and handle loads better. if your getting a truck for the "RIDE" get a ridgeline. this isa big mistake to put coils in the rear of a 1/2 ton pickup.

I agree and disagree. In a 1500 series truck Dodge found that 70% of the owners use it as a daily driver and not as a work truck. IMO they are smart for going upscale with ride and comfort and leaving the heavy duty work for the 2500/3500 series trucks. The new Avalanche has rear coils as well.

byrdawg13
02-24-2008, 09:49 PM
and i dont call the avalanche a work truck either, it has IFS,coils in the rear,small bed. its a crossover suv/pickup. not a designated pickup, hauler, truck

rock ram
08-04-2008, 02:01 PM
With the price of gas, people are going to buy trucks for what they are meant for WORK. Coils springs are not going to cut it. But I hope you can buy a 6" lift and not break the bank with the rear 4 link.

JBostick
08-04-2008, 03:43 PM
I dont know of many people that do any heavy towing with a 1500 on a regular basis. I think the majority of buyers will enjoy the ride bennefit from the rear coils and will still be able to haul loads in the bed and tow when needed. Heck you put a atv in a toyota tacoma lol. As for the 2500 and up they will defitnely keep the leafs

JBostick
08-04-2008, 03:44 PM
Although coils would flex awesome in the back of my power wagon

Lead Head
08-04-2008, 09:21 PM
With the price of gas, people are going to buy trucks for what they are meant for WORK. Coils springs are not going to cut it. But I hope you can buy a 6" lift and not break the bank with the rear 4 link.

And you know this how? Coil springs seem to work just fine for other heavy duty vehicles.

MulesHemi
08-11-2008, 11:08 PM
a half ton is not ment for heavy hauling, it will do great for what it is designed. have some Da*n faith in the company!
you guys keep saying the the front coils are different because its a stationary load. how stationary is a 9' plow? ever seen an under paid maintenance guy plowing snow at midnight? he aint very gentle with the truck. but it still holds up just fine

TwinStick
11-01-2008, 01:16 AM
JBostick--STOP IT,my mind is racing now, Oh man, i'm getting excited, STOP!!! LMAO

moparman2k2
01-14-2009, 11:54 AM
Don't think the HD's will have the Coils. It's just the the 02's went to IFS the 03 HD's kept straight Axles.