2009 Ram 1500 Discussion Part 2

[JeffB2002]

Here is the pic to get this thread started.

[FreeLantz]

Jeff just to be clear I edited your post and put in the higher resolution pic which I was just posting as the other thread closed.

[JeffB2002]

No problem...I thought we kept the same name so people would see that the next part was started... No Biggie :D

[Ram3500Dually]

I closed the other thread since it was still open

[FreeLantz]

I closed the other thread since it was still openHow many mods does it take to close a thread?

Wait, don't answer that.:D

[Darcity]

Now that the cat is out the bag, this one is similar to the one that I saw. The only differences are different wheels, the lockbox on the bed, and two-tone color. We all had mixed emotions when we saw the front end. It never really jumped out at us. I hope that there is still a chance that it changes.

BTW, the trim reminds me of a Ford! :YUK:

[05Ramhendrix]

It's hard to believe that the picture was posted on Mopar on purpose. How about all those 2008 models they have to try to sell now. Anybody who is thinking about buying a new Ram will certainly wait for the '09's to come out. Lots a luck to Chrysler getting rid of their 08 inventory.

[FreeLantz]

Like any new design, there will be plenty of people who prefer the old one, especially at first. There will also be some who just don't want a first-year model, regardless of how good it looks. But mostly, the rebates on the '08 models will keep them moving. I wouldn't worry about that at all.

[JeffB2002]

Are you talking about the pic you posted or one you saw...The pic you posted looks like a lower resolution version of the one in the first post

[Ram3500Dually]

It's hard to believe that the picture was posted on Mopar on purpose. How about all those 2008 models they have to try to sell now. Anybody who is thinking about buying a new Ram will certainly wait for the '09's to come out. Lots a luck to Chrysler getting rid of their 08 inventory.

The pictures were going to be out in another 4 weeks anyways. The Ram is being debuted at the Detroit Auto Show in January

[Hell Ride]

and I thought I was a post whore for going into Chauncey............lol.

[Darcity]

I just copied the same picture that was just posted in the first thread. This pic is similar to the truck that I saw in person months ago. The one that I saw was all gray. BTW, everyone look out for a full-sized suv with that same front end.

[quietpeen]

I just copied the same picture that was just posted in the first thread. This pic is similar to the truck that I saw in person months ago. The one that I saw was all gray. BTW, everyone look out for a full-sized suv with that same front end.

very intersting

[hemi_dakota94]

It's hard to believe that the picture was posted on Mopar on purpose..

I agree!! Me thinks a disgruntled webmaster, or a carefully placed leak to create some buzz.. :IDEA:

[quietpeen]

It's hard to believe that the picture was posted on Mopar on purpose. How about all those 2008 models they have to try to sell now. Anybody who is thinking about buying a new Ram will certainly wait for the '09's to come out. Lots a luck to Chrysler getting rid of their 08 inventory.

and it was posted in the accessories section for 2008 ram 1500's.

[dubram2004]

Man I have mixed feelings for this new model I will need to see it in person. Im holding off in buying my CTD MEGACAB to see the 09 but just by looking at this pic I think I will be buying in 08. I hope it grows on me....... I keep looking at that pic and all I see is a furd and yota.

[W_A_Watson_II]

Dubram2004, I'm with you. The Truck looks good, except for the Grille and Headlights. I'll wait to see the interior to make my 08/09 buying decision.

[Ram3500Dually]

Man I have mixed feelings for this new model I will need to see it in person. Im holding off in buying my CTD MEGACAB to see the 09 but just by looking at this pic I think I will be buying in 08. I hope it grows on me....... I keep looking at that pic and all I see is a furd and yota.

How can you say Ford? I see nothing that resembles a Ford and since everybody says Toyota is a copy of the Ram then the Ram is actually a copy of itself :)

[NJDodger]

I'm going to hold off on any decision on the new truck till I get to see it in person or at least in a different color scheme. It's interesting. Like the grille, and the box in the bedside, but not so sure of the headlights.

[quietpeen]

i think eveybody that is seeing ford is because of the 2 tone paint

[sca]

I like it! More Yota but I wouldn't say it is copied....

[Ram3500Dually]

i think eveybody that is seeing ford is because of the 2 tone paint

I think you are right. The paint over the rear fenders makes it look bubbled out like the Fords

[redramhawgfan]

I'm kind of digging it. I'm very interested in seeing more models, sport, reg cab, etc.

[quietpeen]

the concepts section has some nice photochops, that show some potential of this new design.

[vipernot4sale]

this is sick...

[ollicat]

Me likee!!!

[MulesHemi]

im not too excited yet..... waiting to see a HD and an SRT

[Lookin4aTruck]

Must be blind then because the doors, windows are almost identical. THe shape size everything. Rear quarter panel and both fender wells look nearly identical. Only difference I see is the front has the droped fender and the Ford doesn't. And of course the Grill is different.

Reguardless of what it looks like IMHO it looks pretty boring and tired. Looks like a Gradpaws truck, just like Ford.

[squat]

The chrome grill on that truck doesn't look good with the color scheme. It should be painted to match, dunno about the inserts though. To me the look is toyota front end (so either dodge copied toyota or someone at toyota had inside info) with ford fenders. I like the 06-08 looks better right now, but I'm sure this will grow on me.

All in all I'm a bit disappointed, this redesign is pretty conservative (to me anyway). I was hoping for something that really stood out. Either way I hope it sells really well, I'd hate for toyota to catch dodge in the truck segment any time soon.

[Ram3500Dually]

Must be blind then because the doors, windows are almost identical. THe shape size everything. Rear quarter panel and both fender wells look nearly identical. Only difference I see is the front has the droped fender and the Ford doesn't. And of course the Grill is different.

Reguardless of what it looks like IMHO it looks pretty boring and tired. Looks like a Gradpaws truck, just like Ford.

You can't do much with a pickup. There isn't a body line that is the same between the Ford and the Dodge and as far as a window, the windows look just like the 08's and almost every other pickup on the road.

[quietpeen]

it's funny how people are arguing over the looks. I guess you guys were right when you said that there will be many that hate the change.

[BJoe]

Not bad, I want to see a basic reg cab/long bed in 2wd though.

[Lookin4aTruck]

If you can't look at both of those pics right on top of one another and see the similarities of the sides of both trucks especially from the drivers door back to the end then........ Oh well thats your opinion in IMO its a very big letdown.

[jordanp123]

Seems like a repeat of the 06's all over again; and what I mean by that is everyone at first had mixed feelings, some loved it, some hated it, some weren't sure. Most people stayed around and warmed up to the design, I think the same will happen here. That being said however, I do like the design.

[BJoe]

I'm not a big fan of the '02 restyle, but the Hemi made it bearable for me and I still hate the deformed headlights on the '06 and later trucks.

[cc1999]

I don't see this design being a major departure from the old one, I am sure with a little time and once people get to look at it in there favorite model and configuration, then it will grow on the nay sayers pretty fast. I really seldome ever like a new truck when it first comes out. But from the looks of this pic of the new 09 Ram, I really like it.

FYI
Also Mopar has pulled the pic from there site. It now back to a 2008 model. I ma suprised anyone was working on a sunday, but its been pulled. The same link I put up this afternoon, now takes you to a black 2008 http://www.mopar-accessories.com/dodge/img/Vehicle%20Images/2008/Dodge/Ram.jpg

[NJDodger]

Maybe if you ferderize it a little I can see a bit more of a resemblance.

It is a bit of a joke so please don't flame me too much.

[DodgeThisHemi]

How can you say Ford? I see nothing that resembles a Ford and since everybody says Toyota is a copy of the Ram then the Ram is actually a copy of itself :)
I see it here....

http://www.oramagazine.com/images/0509-sept/050908f-greg-adlers-ford/03photo01.jpg
I see it as where the hood comes down and the hood starts to come over the headlight. I dont know. I am not to big on the design. I was really hopeing for better from Dodge. Hope they tweak it some and this is not the final product. But man do the headlights really look toyota though.

[FreeLantz]

Since Ford sells more full-sized trucks than anyone else, it makes sense to a degree that they would adopt a few Ford cues. But other than the two-tone scheme (which you could just as easily say looks like something on a circa-2000 Dakota Quad Cab) I don't see much Ford influence here. To me it's unmistakably a Ram. The dropped fender look that we were afraid might disappear is still there. The lines are clean and crisp. It's a nice evolutionary change from the current truck.

Remember this is probably a Laramie model (top of the line) and that not all of them will have two-tone paint. I can picture this thing in Flame Red with no secondary color and it would look great! (and I don't even like red, lol) :D

The only thing I don't like...in terms of styling...is the storage box on the side of the bed. It clutters up the lines somewhat and I'd probably opt to not have it on my truck, if that was possible.

[Ram3500Dually]

I'm glad somebody else finally doesn't see any Ford in that picture. I'm with you David, if I was buying a 1500/2500 I wouldn't be ordering the side storage either. Since my 2009 will be a dually I won't be getting the fender storage :)

[co416r]

i think eveybody that is seeing ford is because of the 2 tone paintDito. I thought the same. Front end almost looks seceond gen.

[DodgeThisHemi]

Im not even looking at the two tone part. I dont really see any other ford in it other than that part of the hood. Honestly, I like the lines, side, body, grille is pretty nice, bumper is decent but I am really not liking the headlights. I didnt like the 06 headlights at first because I thought they were taking a step backwards with that big amber section. It really took away from the cleaness the truck had. Then when 07s came out, The headlights looked awesome I think. This new design is just following another design already out. I dont mind the grille really or the front end, but the headlights really need a change. I think it is the headlight alone that is really making it look like a Toyota. Dodge I think has always been a manu that sets the standards for designs or always does it a little different. Heck, Remeber, Dodge...Different...lol I dont know, I just think instead of going like that did before with setting trends or making statments with their trucks, they are becoming more of a follower.

[mxtime]

So I'm still thinking fake... Somebody pulling a hoax... maybe I'm wrong..
How long has mopar-accesories.com site been around? has anyone seen it before today? I just did a whois on it and it was created 05-Dec-2007 ??
See yourself..
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=mopar-accessories&tld=com

The front end of that picture does not look right to me.
But man that would be a whole lot of work to pull a hoax. -- Maybe I'm just hard headed... That pic sure does look real..

[vipernot4sale]

found this info from another forum???I have seen the new 2009 Dodge Ram, and that picture is not even close. A complete photoshop. I worked at Warren Truck Assembly as an intern there, and let me tell you, the new 2009 dodge ram will blow you away. I was so amazed by it, it is really a game changer.

[Darcity]

So I'm still thinking fake... Somebody pulling a hoax... maybe I'm wrong..
How long has mopar-accesories.com site been around? has anyone seen it before today? I just did a whois on it and it was created 05-Dec-2007 ??
See yourself..
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=mopar-accessories&tld=com

The front end of that picture does not look right to me.
But man that would be a whole lot of work to pull a hoax. -- Maybe I'm just hard headed... That pic sure does look real..

Believe it! They are still playing with that front end though. The interior is breath-taking too!

[cc1999]

That guy that poasted "that its not even close" coment, had only made about 9 post ever to GMI. So many other that saw the truck in Vegas are saying this is it.

I have been to that Mopar site several times inthe past looking at Jeep accys.

Some one would have had to been one heck of a photo shop wizard and been able to hack into a chrysler website, then get respected members of several forums around the net to say it is the truck they saw in Vegas at the dealer meeting. all that would be needed to pull this off. I am still thinking this is the real deal.

I really doubt they are still playing with the front end design, The show trucks are already built and ready for the launch in the next few weeks. I doubt we see any design changes at this point. There may be other models, like sports, and SLTs, SLs, SRTs ect. but I believe this is the new tuck.

[Ram3500Dually]

So I'm still thinking fake... Somebody pulling a hoax... maybe I'm wrong..
How long has mopar-accesories.com site been around? has anyone seen it before today? I just did a whois on it and it was created 05-Dec-2007 ??
See yourself..
http://www.whois.net/whois_new.cgi?d=mopar-accessories&tld=com

The front end of that picture does not look right to me.
But man that would be a whole lot of work to pull a hoax. -- Maybe I'm just hard headed... That pic sure does look real..

Go to www.mopar.com and click on accessories and it takes you to that site. Its how I got there the first time to see the picture. It has now been taken down but it was there yesterday. this was no hoax, it IS the real thing

[dline]

sure looks low for a 4x4 like a chevy, won't be fitting 35" tires on that stock.

[FreeLantz]

No doubt about it folks; this is the '09 Ram.

Now I do think you all should consider how different other trim levels might look. This is obviously a Laramie. There will also be ST, SLT, TRX, and Sport models - and who knows what else. Check out the 2008 Dakota if you want to see how trim levels of the same truck can be made to look completely different. I think we'll see something similar with the new Ram. :)

[quietpeen]

ok....so whoever leaked this photo, could you please leak a photo of a sport model.

Thanks in advance

:thatfunny :thatfunny :thatfunny

[Ram3500Dually]

The person that leaked the photo probably doesn't have a job as of about 8AM this morning :D :D :D

[Cds4344]

Back half looks like a Titan

[Grantman31]

I am digging this truck! It reminds me of the 2nd gen front end to an extent, and I think the headlights look better than the current gen. I'm glad they got away from the "bubble" look. I would definitely buy one.

[dline]

hope you can still put a 17" rim on them, and that it remains the 5x5.5" bolt pattern on the 1/2 tons.

[2_Brew_Crew]

I can't wait to see how this looks as a Power Wagon.

[Dodge_Tomahawk]

Its real.

The person that leaked the photo probably doesn't have a job as of about 8AM this morning

Ya...Nardeli no likey leaky on bread and butter. :D

[hemirambob]

Interestingly when you click the Dodge link on the Accessories link you get this????


"The Dodge accessory site is being updated and will be back shortly. Thank you for you patience"

[Hell Ride]

Interestingly when you click the Dodge link on the Accessories link you get this????


"The Dodge accessory site is being updated and will be back shortly. Thank you for you patience"

What that really means is that "We have all lined up and are currently kicking the IT guy's ass. The numbers of everyone in line range from 1-350 so it will be a while. We apologize for the wait."

Hopefully they will post pics. :D

[quietpeen]

What that really means is that "We have all lined up and are currently kicked the IT guy's ass. The numbers of everyone in line range from 1-350 so it will be a while. We apologize for the wait."

Hopefully they will post pics. :D


:thatfunny :thatfunny :thatfunny

I saw it....it was there.........HONEST!!!!!!

[JeffB2002]

I have a copy on my computer.....We ALL know it was there...LOL

[nickd907]

I maybe crazy but does anyone else see a dakota with the front end?

I am holding my judgement until I see other trim levels and color opitions.

I think a solid color will look totally different.

[Wingviper]

If this is the new 2009, I think its a good looking design. Still like my 04 tho.

[RedRam88]

Seems like a repeat of the 06's all over again; and what I mean by that is everyone at first had mixed feelings, some loved it, some hated it, some weren't sure. Most people stayed around and warmed up to the design, I think the same will happen here. That being said however, I do like the design.

You got that right! I posted a very bias rant about the 06 and I liked it later and I bought an 06 haha some members caught me on that so now I won't say anything til I see more of it to make up my mind

[Ram3500Dually]

I maybe crazy but does anyone else see a dakota with the front end?

I am holding my judgement until I see other trim levels and color opitions.

I think a solid color will look totally different.

The body line on the front fender looks just like last years Dakota.

[RB24]

looks like Tundra IMO, with the headlights and all...while those dont seem as ugly to me as they did when they first came out, i like this look better but still love my 07...i want to see an electric blue sport 2wd on 22s :D

[quietpeen]

looks like Tundra IMO, with the headlights and all...while those dont seem as ugly to me as they did when they first came out, i like this look better but still love my 07...i want to see an electric blue sport 2wd on 22s :D


well start photochopping brotha :D

[62savoywagon]

ALLPAR has it on there web site. The new ram 2009 will be introduced at the January Detroit Auto show. Check it out on ALLPAR trucks!!

[RB24]

well start photochopping brotha :D


i got nothing to do other than football tonite :D

[quietpeen]

i got nothing to do other than football tonite :D

and it's not even a good game.

[ramman1]

Ok gotta chime in here. I think I like the look of it from the pic. But will need to see more. So i guess now its confirmed that the hood will not have an attached grille (damn i really liked that about our trucks-part of the big rig look that started it all!). Speaking of which is a FORD design cue (but since the redesign of the last F-150 they stole the attached grille from Dodge). I also think the rear of the cab is squared off like a F-150. And no one can argue the interior (seats in particular) are total F-150 knock offs....

[quietpeen]

where have you seen the interior to know that the seats are a f-150 knock off?

[ramman1]

where have you seen the interior to know that the seats are a f-150 knock off?

Sorry, I should have been a little more specific. By looking at the single pic that has been posted, blow it up and look at the front seats through the windshield. Head rests and tops of what you can see are totally Ford F-150 Crew Cab...

Please see attached pic where I have so carefully peeled back the roof on this F-150 CC so you could see the squared off head rests ;)
http://www.dealsonwheels.com/database/cars/001310-200704-000081big.jpg
(Disclaimer: This pic is just for illustrative use, I hope there were no injuries sustained in the making of it, honestly)

[quietpeen]

ahh I see it now, but what if fords seats are actually better, wouldn't copying them be a good thing then? LOL

[ramman1]

ahh I see it now, but what if fords seats are actually better, wouldn't copying them be a good then then? LOL

Lol I guess so~ :D

[dubram2004]

i think eveybody that is seeing ford is because of the 2 tone paint
I think thats what its reminding me of a furd.........but can't be sure why I just see a furd.......

[cc1999]

The lower accent is carring into the fender brows as ford calls them. Thats about the only reason I can see a Ford influence. All in all it looks like a New Dodge Ram to me, through and through. When I first saw it I knew it was a Ram, I know Toyo stoll a few design ideas from dodge, but those were Dodges signature traits, so in know way will give Toyo any credit for influencing a new Dodge, since it was dodge's design in the first place.

[dubram2004]

I pray to the truck gods that this is a hoax. But as I said I need to see it in front of me. I've read it all around the net anyone know if the Magacab is or is not going to be offered in 09? :gr_patrio

[RB24]

I pray to the truck gods that this is a hoax. But as I said I need to see it in front of me. I've read it all around the net anyone know if the Magacab is or is not going to be offered in 09? :gr_patrio


as far as im aware there will be an in between option called a club cab (bigger than the quad cab and smaller than a mega) havent heard they are COMPLETELY axing the mega but its possible i guess...

[cc1999]

As far as I have been able to tell from all the reports from around the web and the magazines, the Mega is being replaced by the crew cab seen in the new pic of the 09'.

[dale3fan3]

I really dont see ford in it. But thats my opinion. I have no doubts this 09 ram will sell. I know I would like one.

[cc1999]

I here that, I think I am going to have to buy one too.

[Ram3500Dually]

ALLPAR has it on there web site. The new ram 2009 will be introduced at the January Detroit Auto show. Check it out on ALLPAR trucks!!

Where have you been? Right here in Part 1 of this thread it was announced that the new Ram would be shown in Detroit almost a month ago. DodgeTalk was also the FIRST to show the pic of the 09 Ram and it was actually one of OUR moderators that posted the first picture of it over at AllPar. There is no reason to go there when we have it here first :D

[Ram3500Dually]

I pray to the truck gods that this is a hoax. But as I said I need to see it in front of me. I've read it all around the net anyone know if the Magacab is or is not going to be offered in 09? :gr_patrio

The only picture on the net so far of the 2009 Ram is the all new CrewCab which is the replacement for the MegaCab. There will be three cabs, the CrewCab, which replaces the Mega Cab, the ClubCab, which replaces the QuadCab and the Regular Cab.

[62savoywagon]

I've been out on the road and just got in. Sorry for the late news. Just thinking that over the years from 1972 to now every year of the dodge trucks has changed little by little with the same talk that is it better looking than what is out there already. Now we have more options on them then ever before!

[kriskulseth]

I didn't wade through the other thousand posts but I assume that the 2500 and 3500 models could look significantly different correct?

[Ram3500Dually]

The 2500/3500 will look exactly the same as they always have. the 3500 will have the extra fenders on the back but thats it.

[FreeLantz]

Where have you been? Right here in Part 1 of this thread it was announced that the new Ram would be shown in Detroit almost a month ago. DodgeTalk was also the FIRST to show the pic of the 09 Ram and it was actually one of OUR moderators that posted the first picture of it over at AllPar. There is no reason to go there when we have it here first :DIn fairness to Allpar, they were the first to have some of the technical details on the new Ram and their Ram page (not Rampage, lol) has some great info. This thread and the one before it are full of good info. Allpar just sums it up on one page so you don't have to read the whole thread here.

But, if you don't read our thread you miss out on all of the chit chat and fun.:)

[dale3fan3]

ummmm


DODGETALK ROCKS

Bottom line:rck: :rck: :rck: :rck:

[62savoywagon]

I agree!!

[vipernot4sale]

beltline???

[W_A_Watson_II]

Sorry, I don't see a TOYota, or Dakota, of Ford, Except for the Hood and the Ford Superduties.

The grille shape is like the TOYota but the current 07/08 Headlights are more like the TOYota then the 09's. I also don't see the Dakota either.

From all the research I've done, the MegaCab is history, and a Crew, Quad and Regular Cab are the offerings, but I'm concerned that the Crew and Quad are too close in size. The Club Cab needs to come back to replace the Quad Cab.

I sure wish the Grille and Headlights were more pleasing. I don't like the lights connecting to the wheel opening, and the sides of the grille need to be straight up and down, and a smaller center bar.

[Tysoneous]

It looks too much like the Tundra :(

[Dskirtech]

Well, After reading all 3000 + Posts, all I can say is....

HELL YEA! I LOVE IT!

Home Run Dodge!!!!!!!!

[moparcas]

My first impression is good. I like the look. Nice lines. Looks nothing like a ford.

[GMconvert]

this is sick...
That is sick, I likey! I really don't see the Ford or Toyo in there. It will look much better in person. Hopefully they didn't change the seats too much. I have sat in several newer F-150s and absolutely don't like the seats, the '02-'08 Dodge seats are much better (more chair like). In the Ford, it feels too close to the floor.

[Shanes66]

That is a Ford with a Dodge grill..... sorry.. just means I hold on to my 07' thats all.

[SmokinMirror]

Toyo copys Dodge, but people continue to say this Dodge looks like a Toyo? So the Dodge looks like a Dodge?

[se7en]

I didnt like it at first but it's already growing on me. I can see yota and ford though, flip the headlights and look at overall grill shape and there is the tundra. The back of the cab to me is what resembles an f-150. just my .02

[cc1999]

Toyo copys Dodge, but people continue to say this Dodge looks like a Toyo? So the Dodge looks like a Dodge?


Preach it brother, thank god someone else remembers past last year when the Toyo borrowed some design concepts from dodge. This truck looks like a Dodge Ram.

[Lookin4aTruck]

The Tundra looks way better now than this IMHO. Sleeker and more stylish. I agree with the above poster. It looks just like the side of an F-150 with a Dodge front end. Even the post with the picture description from PickupTruck points out the similarities. The obviously toned theis truck down to try and pick up some of them old Gradpa Ford buyers. It is the best selling truck after all. But its to low key and boring. And that Dodge front end looks like the one from 1994. Uh...Its not terrible or anything but I wanted to see something that made me want to trade my 03 model in. I didn't see that at all. So its paid for I guess I will hold on to it for awhile longer. PS that NEW Dakota is very ugly IMO.

[JeffB2002]

Keep in mind guys that you are seeing one picture of one version of this truck. The other packages like Sport might and probably will give it a totally different look.

[quietpeen]

i think people want to see ford and yota influence in there to justify their not liking the new design. It's a new design. You can't keep what you had for it to be new, and sombody else stated there is not much design you can do with trucks, so chances are some features will look like something from another truck.

I remember when the 3rd gens first came out. I didn't like them at all. Now I own one.

[se7en]

I think my main thing is the grill, overall i like the lines its just the grill that messes it up for me.

[megablack]

Looks like the mix of a tundra and a furd. Not a fan, but then again, I was not a fan of the 02.5/03 change and I have had 2 so far. It will grow I assume.

[Ram3500Dually]

I see Dodge written all over this thing and I can't wait to order my 09 dually

[rteig]

FUGLY!!!! Is that a word? That is what this truck is FUGLY! :shoot: :pissmonke

[Dskirtech]

Im REALLY shocked at the general response... I just KNEW everyone was going to so relieved that they didnt completely "Dak-It out" like we all feared!

I mean, really... What direction would you guys have gone? Explain how you would have made it look?

1. The Raked Grill is more sporty
2. Beefier / Taller Hood
3. *better* looking lights (at least i think they are better than the 07's)
4. SRT Rocker Trim...

I think all in all without completely going extreme they have done a superb job of keeping it in the general ballpark, but changing with the times and introducing something new.

and to everyone who says "It Looks FURD or Yoda!!!".... If my memory serves me correctly, it was Dodge that introduced this radical new design (big rig) to the market and everyone else copied it (except Chevy). So in essence, hell YEA it looks Ford and Yoda!!!

Again I say, HOME RUN DODGE!

[VisionxOrb]

I want to know 3 things, howmuch rear space to I give up going from the megacab to the new crewcab, does the 2500/3500 have a regular size bed on the crewcab instead of the gimp small bed the 1500 has and does the 2500/3500 4x4 keep the solid front axle.

[quietpeen]

I want to know 3 things, howmuch rear space to I give up going from the megacab to the new crewcab, does the 2500/3500 have a regular size bed on the crewcab instead of the gimp small bed the 1500 has and does the 2500/3500 4x4 keep the solid front axle.

lol........unfortunately those are all questions that you are going to have to wait on answers for.

[Dskirtech]

I want to know 3 things, howmuch rear space to I give up going from the megacab to the new crewcab, does the 2500/3500 have a regular size bed on the crewcab instead of the gimp small bed the 1500 has and does the 2500/3500 4x4 keep the solid front axle.


All of which are VERY solid questions!!!!

[ramman1]

To make it clear, I never said I didnt like it. It looks good to me so far, (even though they went a bit more conservative then I thought they would with all the hype calling it a totally new ground up redesign) and hopefully I will like it even more once I see it in person.
Dskirtech; you are right in saying Dodge started the whole big rig design. But I think that Dodge went a little F-150 if you take a look at the squared off back of the cab (which Ford put in its 04 F-150) as well as the squared off front seat head rests. Which is totally fine IMO but I cant see where everyone else doesnt see this. As well as the damn grille not being attached to the hood anymore-total Superduty design - I loved the attached grille on Dodges!

[dale3fan3]

Guys lets keep one thing in mind here. We are all only seeing ONE photo. we havent see different angles or the truck from the rear. We also havent seen all the packages that will be available. Before the negative people go off like you are why not hold judgement Till we get to see more. We dont know the interior we dont know the engine specs for sure we dont know the suspension for sure either. I think your all jumping the gun on the new design. There were so many people that HATED and I mean HATED the 06 changes and I know a few of them have bought it now.

As for us that like the design well we like what we see so far.


For the negative people keep a open mind till you see it all before landbashing chrysler for the way they went. There is a possibility that the other models will change your mind.

[Ram3500Dually]

Right on Craig. As I have said before, this is just like 93, 2001 and 2005 all over again. When the next years models first picture came out 90% of the people hated it and said they would NEVER buy one. Next thing you know, they all had them :)

[rteig]

I think more along the lines of the Power Wagon Concept would have been the way to go. Even that very first spy pic that was a new front clip mounted on the existing body looked better than that thing. I have never owned anything but a Dodge and likely never will but come on! With any hope maybe Dodge will separate the light/heavy duties like Ford and GM and design a 2500/3500/4500/5500 that doesn't look like a "cracked-out lesbian " didn't design it........ :VHOT:

[SmokinMirror]

The Tundra looks way better now than this IMHO. Sleeker and more stylish. I agree with the above poster. It looks just like the side of an F-150 with a Dodge front end. Even the post with the picture description from PickupTruck points out the similarities. The obviously toned theis truck down to try and pick up some of them old Gradpa Ford buyers. It is the best selling truck after all. But its to low key and boring. And that Dodge front end looks like the one from 1994. Uh...Its not terrible or anything but I wanted to see something that made me want to trade my 03 model in. I didn't see that at all. So its paid for I guess I will hold on to it for awhile longer. PS that NEW Dakota is very ugly IMO.


Yea you say that because your truck looks like the new tundra. :thatfunny

[SmokinMirror]

It looks too much like the Tundra :(

Actually your truck looks like the Tundra, the Tundra copied the first edition of the 3rd Generation Rams in almost every aspect of the entire truck. This truck is less rounded and more cut in comparison.

Toyota is the copy cat, if you cant see this I feel sorry for you.

[JoeHemi57]

I'll wait on the mid model refresh with different headlights...

[vipernot4sale]

where in the hell do you all see f150 in this???i see pure dodge dna nothing more nothing less.and the tundra!!!(a ram rip off god help it)looks like a recent bowel movement... saying it looks like a f150 or tundra is trumpery!!!

[Ram3500Dually]

where in the hell do you all see f150 in this???i see pure dodge dna nothing more nothing less.and the tundra!!!(a ram rip off god help it)looks like a recent bowel movement... saying it looks like a f150 or tundra is trumpery!!!

I changed your bmp to a jpg so it would show up

[ramman1]

where in the hell do you all see f150 in this???

Hmm Let see, see below. Im definitely not saying I dont like it, I do, just saying youd have to be blind not to see this similarity (squared off rear cab and blacked out B Pillar). Thats all...

[Lookin4aTruck]

That is the new F-150 which lookls like poop. All these trucks are just not sporty enough for me or something anymore. I think is what caught my about the 02 re-design. The sport package looked awesome on it. Maybe these will look better. But everyone including Ford, GM and Dodge seem to be going a less sporty/aggressive route and more of a big boxy square design with no curves. I think the Tundra now is the most sporty looking or sleekest of the bunch. And yes the 02s I think started alot of what we are seeing now but other are passing them buy. I loved the styling of my Dodge I guess we will jsut have to wait to see if the new ones make that same king of statment. Right now the Tundra and the new Chevy/GMs are the best looking trucks exteriors wise. If I hadn't loved the looks of mine I would get rid of it because its gave more trouble than any other vehicle I have ever owned.

[Ram3500Dually]

Lol, a back window on a pickup. Imagine that. What else could you do with a roof line and a rear door? Looks like EVERY other pickup on the road.

[ramman1]

Actually it doesnt. The GMs are more rounded like ours were. It specifically follows the F-150s lines and blacked out B pillar.

[Ram3500Dually]

Blacked out B Pillar eh? Seems to me we had them for years :)
Here is my 95, 2000 and 2001 all with blacked out B Pillars so obvious Dodge copied the Ford that originally copied the Dodge so it looks just like a Dodge :D

[cc1999]

Ford and Toyo both have the blacked out B pillars, I think thats just become a common trend as move into the latter part of the decade. Thats not really a design thing, its a paint job sort of thing IMO. Just like the painted wheel flairs. The body design is pure Dodge. I think once they release some pic's of different models there will be something most dodge fans will like. I love the new truck. I sold my Superduty today, and wish like heck this new truck was out already. This new dodge is the best looking truck I have seen in a while. Well since they quit making the 05' rams, I actualy like this new 09' better than my 05' and I have always loved the look of my 05'.

[cc1999]

Blacked out B Pillar eh? Seems to me we had them for years :)
Here is my 95, 2000 and 2001 all with blacked out B Pillars so obvious Dodge copied the Ford that originally copied the Dodge so it looks just like a Dodge :D

Good point I forgot about those old body quad cabs, it seems Dodge started that blacked out B pillar trend too, well over a decade ago .

[vipernot4sale]

Thanks Ram3500.... I Like This Reg Cab Sweet!!

[GMconvert]

Blacked out B Pillar eh? Seems to me we had them for years :)
Here is my 95, 2000 and 2001 all with blacked out B Pillars so obvious Dodge copied the Ford that originally copied the Dodge so it looks just like a Dodge :D
:thatfunny

[vipernot4sale]

Oh My!!!would You Look At That...

[Ram3500Dually]

Oh ya, my 90 and 98 had blacked out B Pillars too :D

[Lookin4aTruck]

The Reg cab does look good. We need to see a black sport model with 20s.

[05Ramhendrix]

The cab of this new design is FORD all the way. There's something about the Grill angle and the headlights that just doesn't flow, straight lined and bland. The square fog lights and the wraparound front bumper is uneventful, no real appeal there at all. This new design is a very dissipointing conservitive cop out IMO. This could of been designed on any photoshop program by anyone of us. No balls!

[ramman1]

nevermind, your right its totally Dodge all the way, they were influenced by no one else... :WHT:

[Lookin4aTruck]

I agree with 05 Ramhendrix. If your read my posts in the other thread said almost the samething. It may in fact look alot better with other configurations. I think we need to just wait until the official production model actually rolls out with high quality pics. But yeah they coped out and went conservative to get the old farts that buy the F-150s.

[W_A_Watson_II]

I have to agree, more of the 99 Power wagon Front would have been better.

[Ram3500Dually]

Its amazing that everyone forgets 1994. That was the year that Dodge set the benchmark that everyone has copied to date. If that truck looks like the Toyota or the Ford it only looks like what Dodge started in the first place. I see Dodge written all over that truck.

[cc1999]

I believe it was released summer of 1993 as a 1994 model. We had the movie crew from the movie Twister staying in my home town for 3 or 4 months making the movie that the all new Dodge at the time, had played a major roll in. I was working at the Dodge dealer at the time and the trucks were not even out yet when in the spring of 93 the Twister crew rolled in with several of them. It was a truck that really did change all the rules.

[Ram3500Dually]

I had the first 1994 all new Dodge Ram in Canada. I took delivery August 20th 1993. When I said 1994 I meant the 1994 model year.

[ggravant]

Oh ya, my 90 and 98 had blacked out B Pillars too :DWhat is funny is one of the mods I saw on one of the Tundra forums is guys removing the black plastic cover on the B pillar to expose the factory paint. ;)

[Ram3500Dually]

What is funny is one of the mods I saw on one of the Tundra forums is guys removing the black plastic cover on the B pillar to expose the factory paint. ;)

We had a thread here a year or two ago of guys adding black vinyl to Quad cabs to give the blacked out look on the 3rd Gens :thatfunny

[KB112]

Daddy likey. I am not so sure about the grille, but it will grow on me. At least I know what my next trucks gonna look like. :D

KB

[RedRam88]

Some people are saying it looks like a ford and a tundra well presenting the all- new

DODGE FUNDRA!!!!!

[vipernot4sale]

Its looks good even in a crappy picture..this truck is going be ****ing sick in some high qulity shots.i want to see the reg cab.

[Dskirtech]

Thanks Ram3500.... I Like This Reg Cab Sweet!!


Now THIS is what Im talking about... and Thanks for posting this.

THis is the kind of thing I was talking about right here. I see SO much potential for this new design and REALLY think once we all get over the initial shock, its going to be one HELL of a new look to Mod...

Great Chop!

[dline]

idk i always thought the 94-01 rams were ugly and junk, IMO.

[FreeLantz]

I believe it was released summer of 1993 as a 1994 model. We had the movie crew from the movie Twister staying in my home town for 3 or 4 months making the movie that the all new Dodge at the time, had played a major roll in. I was working at the Dodge dealer at the time and the trucks were not even out yet when in the spring of 93 the Twister crew rolled in with several of them. It was a truck that really did change all the rules.The movie Twister introduced the Ram Club Cab, in the spring-summer of '94. The regular cab Ram was first unveiled during auto show season in early '93, and went on sale in August, '93.

A "ride and drive" for journalists for the '94 Ram was held over several weeks in August '93 at Barron Hilton's "Flying M" ranch in Yerrington, NV. I was there.

Sadly, a few days after I left, one of the journalists attending the next phase of the event was killed - in a Chevy pickup truck provided for comparison - because the dirt roads out there were so dusty and unsafe. :(

But the Ram went on to rave reviews from the press anyway and ultimately revolutionized the pickup market.

[cc1999]

I got to thinking about that, after I posted last night. You are 100% correct, the movie crew had the club cabs, that we were not even able to order yet. We did have the regular cabs available when they were staying in town. I think it was spring 94 rather then 93' that all this was going on. Our service department was in charge of keeping there all new club cabs and mini vans running. I attended a ride and drive demo school in Tulsa, where they had trucks from ever brand to drive and compare. They really did the launch of that truck, like no other, I supose it was because the truck it self was like no other at the time.

[Exxon]

I see no resemblence to any other company except Dodge. I was shocked at first of the new design but it is growing on my. You can tell it has that bigger stance influence to try and appear a bigger better truck than the competition. But think about, Imagine how nice it would to drive this truck. Especially with the new engine option of the Cummins v6's and so on. I definetaly would buy one if I were to go get a new truck. I just can't wait to see a sport version without the chrome on it and a 2500 version with a straight axle.

[4x4OffRoadRam]

The movie Twister introduced the Ram Club Cab, in the spring-summer of '94. The regular cab Ram was first unveiled during auto show season in early '93, and went on sale in August, '93.

A "ride and drive" for journalists for the '94 Ram was held over several weeks in August '93 at Barron Hilton's "Flying M" ranch in Yerrington, NV. I was there.

Sadly, a few days after I left, one of the journalists attending the next phase of the event was killed - in a Chevy pickup truck provided for comparison - because the dirt roads out there were so dusty and unsafe. :(

But the Ram went on to rave reviews from the press anyway and ultimately revolutionized the pickup market.

The movie Twister came out in 1996.....

[ramman1]

The movie Twister came out in 1996.....

Maybe he meant that was when they were filming it??

[2_Brew_Crew]

It takes a year or more after movies are filmed to get them to the theatres though. During the filming the introduced the club cab is what he's saying I think.

[4x4OffRoadRam]

With a little more digging I found a website that is a museum for the movie Twister. It is in Wakita, Oklahoma. It says on there that the movie was shot in Wakita in summer of 1995. The club cab was for sale to the public in 1995.

Edit: Here is the link directly to the page where it says when Twister was filmed in Wakita. http://www.twistercountry.com/1_twister_museum.htm

[hemi1569]

Okay i have seen no posts about power... I looked up on allpar and it said a 375 horsepower hemi would be the upgrade from the current 345 horse hemi.... I hope that is not so... 6 years and they can't even get it over 400???????????????????

[4x4OffRoadRam]

I really don't understand why everybody just HAS to have 400 horsepower for the new Hemi. Granted, I am a guy, horsepower is sweet. Needs more power! :Insert Tim Allen Grunt: But seriously, look back in time a little bit when everyone had Magnum V8's. Nobody was yelling and screaming over 400 horsepower then, were they? Most people could tow whatever they wanted with their 318's or 360's. If they couldn't, they had a diesel. There is a reason why Chrysler chose not to put out 400 horsepower out of the new Hemi for the trucks. Let it go. The only thing I look at from an engineering standpoint is that automakers are relying less on mechanical parts to get pure horsepower. Instead, everything is being relied on electronics. I say boo electronics. More crap to go wrong. All this fangled electronic garbage was supposed to be used to increase fuel mileage. Instead, it is being used in the horsepower wars. Its a simple rule, the more horsepower you have, the worse your gas mileage is. This is primarily because people forget to drive conservatively, and instead mash the pedal to the floor all the damn time. That is why the government had to recalculate their EPA fuel mileage estimates for the new vehicles. Because everyone insists on driving faster, and flooring it from every light, and in turn they just have to stop for the next light, wasting all of that gas and not getting anywhere faster. Take a look at the new 4.7L in the Dakota with all of its garbage electronics. 300 horsepower, wow. Thats a little dangerous in a small truck like that in my eyes. However, look at the torque rating. Its around 320 ft/lbs if I am not mistaken. That is pretty damn pathetic, considering my stock 318 Magnum puts out 300 ft/lbs, and the 360 Magnum put out around 330 ft/lbs. With all of these stupid electronics, and trying to boost horsepower, we are not producing the torque we should out of these new motors. Chrysler does things for a reason, just let it go. Want 400 horsepower out of your new Hemi Ram? Then buy upgrades.

[quietpeen]

Okay i have seen no posts about power... I looked up on allpar and it said a 375 horsepower hemi would be the upgrade from the current 345 horse hemi.... I hope that is not so... 6 years and they can't even get it over 400???????????????????

that is because there isn't any real info out about that stuff yet.

[squat]

Okay i have seen no posts about power... I looked up on allpar and it said a 375 horsepower hemi would be the upgrade from the current 345 horse hemi.... I hope that is not so... 6 years and they can't even get it over 400???????????????????

They probably could, but they might be saving those extra hps and getting the hemi up to a respectable 20 mpg in a quad cab. People these days are more interested in mpg than hp, and it's within pissing distance of the tundra 5.7 481 hp. My guess is that the hemi will have similar torque but get better mileage than the tundra.

[hemi1569]

I really don't understand why everybody just HAS to have 400 horsepower for the new Hemi. Granted, I am a guy, horsepower is sweet. Needs more power! :Insert Tim Allen Grunt: But seriously, look back in time a little bit when everyone had Magnum V8's. Nobody was yelling and screaming over 400 horsepower then, were they? Most people could tow whatever they wanted with their 318's or 360's. If they couldn't, they had a diesel. There is a reason why Chrysler chose not to put out 400 horsepower out of the new Hemi for the trucks. Let it go. The only thing I look at from an engineering standpoint is that automakers are relying less on mechanical parts to get pure horsepower. Instead, everything is being relied on electronics. I say boo electronics. More crap to go wrong. All this fangled electronic garbage was supposed to be used to increase fuel mileage. Instead, it is being used in the horsepower wars. Its a simple rule, the more horsepower you have, the worse your gas mileage is. This is primarily because people forget to drive conservatively, and instead mash the pedal to the floor all the damn time. That is why the government had to recalculate their EPA fuel mileage estimates for the new vehicles. Because everyone insists on driving faster, and flooring it from every light, and in turn they just have to stop for the next light, wasting all of that gas and not getting anywhere faster. Take a look at the new 4.7L in the Dakota with all of its garbage electronics. 300 horsepower, wow. Thats a little dangerous in a small truck like that in my eyes. However, look at the torque rating. Its around 320 ft/lbs if I am not mistaken. That is pretty damn pathetic, considering my stock 318 Magnum puts out 300 ft/lbs, and the 360 Magnum put out around 330 ft/lbs. With all of these stupid electronics, and trying to boost horsepower, we are not producing the torque we should out of these new motors. Chrysler does things for a reason, just let it go. Want 400 horsepower out of your new Hemi Ram? Then buy upgrades.


They can't even best the 381 out of the toyota!?!?!?

c'mon

[4x4OffRoadRam]

The Toyota has dual overhead cams....something I am sure will cause them reliability problems.

[JeffB2002]

They probably could get 400 out of the Hemi, BUT that damn EPA. I will bet that it is a MPG issue.

[cc1999]

Its been a long time ago, but I know they had the trucks befor we could even order them. there production facilty they rented was a wharehose across the steet from our dealership, so we had people coming in aking about there trucks all the time. I also moved to Kansas at the end of 95'. I am pretty sure they were in my home town in 94, wakita was were they filmed the final destruction seens . Ponca is about 60 miles or so from wakita if I remember right. This was a film about weather, so the shooting of the film and the seasons might have had something to do with it taking so long to film. I rember them chasing storms to get footage for the film and having a hard time with that. Anyway it was well over a decade ago, and I am sorry if I was off on the exact dates.

Anyway I think we are getting off topic here. Point was dodge did infact change the rules so to speak with introdution of those trucks back in the mid 90s and now that everyone has copied parts of that original concept dodge created. It's hard for me to understand how someone can say Dodge copied something that they started.

[RAM MAN]

if it IS actually at NAIAS 08, I'll take some pics of it ...

anything in particular anyone wants to see ?

[cc1999]

All angles, inside and out please.

[quietpeen]

what is NAIAS?

[4x4OffRoadRam]

Word, I'll take pics when I go to the NAIAS too. NAIAS: North American International Auto Show.

[JeffB2002]

See if they have a different version of it at NAIAS. Hopefully they will bring a Sport version and an TRX version.

[nickd907]

if it IS actually at NAIAS 08, I'll take some pics of it ...

anything in particular anyone wants to see ?


Take as many pics as you can, when you think you have enough, take more :D

Thanks :gr_patrio

[quietpeen]

Take as many pics as you can, when you think you have enough, take more :D

Thanks :gr_patrio

and then after you have walked away go back and take more :thatfunny

[nickd907]

and then after you have walked away go back and take more :thatfunny


:thatfunny nice :D

[ramman1]

The Toyota has dual overhead cams....something I am sure will cause them reliability problems.

True: already did, 5.7 Tundra owners experienced defective castings of their beloved 5.7 cams...

[Lookin4aTruck]

I just saw this. This is kinda what I was wanting.

What the 09 Ram should have looked like.

http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/files/1/2/0/0/2010_Ram_Mod_S.Weigel_2006.jpg

[nickd907]

that thing looks awesome, steve does a kick ass job.

[hemi1569]

They should have made the new hemi with the 6.1 with 4.56 gears and a true 6 speed transmission. That would have been a UNBEATABLE combination. The transmission and rear gear would increase city mpgs and with a tall overdrive and the 4.56's the highway mpgs would increase too. I would pay to have one...

[nickd907]

^^^^Thats what i am talkin about :rck:

[05Ramhendrix]

I just saw this. This is kinda what I was wanting.

What the 09 Ram should have looked like.

http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/files/1/2/0/0/2010_Ram_Mod_S.Weigel_2006.jpg
That's exactly what I was thinking. S. Weigel should of designed the 09. He has a much better imagination. Charger headlights, with the '05 or 06 grill shell, angled in slightly.

[se7en]

I just saw this. This is kinda what I was wanting.

What the 09 Ram should have looked like.

http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/files/1/2/0/0/2010_Ram_Mod_S.Weigel_2006.jpg



now that, is a bad ass truck

[JeffB2002]

I just saw this. This is kinda what I was wanting.

What the 09 Ram should have looked like.

http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/files/1/2/0/0/2010_Ram_Mod_S.Weigel_2006.jpg
I would be all over this like white on rice....That is awesome!!

[Lookin4aTruck]

That is was what I was expecting based on all the talk and hype leading up to this. It is Bolder but yet somehow sleeker and even more stylish than any Ram. While at the sametime being true to the Dodge design and talk about making a statement. That is pure in your face Dodge Boldness.

Too Giles and the Chrysler guys went the other direction.

[PlmRam]

I think that the designers did a good job keeping that Ram look that we all love. I'll admit, it may have to grow on me a little more, but I like it. I don't think that it borrows from the Ford and doesn't look, at all, like a Tundra. I hope that the bed tool boxes are just an option (I'm sure some owners will find them handy).

I'll have to see one in person to really tell. Keep the pics coming!

[07HEMI]

s.weigel I'll take..... two, that's just down right sick,

[Dodge_Tomahawk]

Let me upgrade my quickie chop you guys found over at concepts forum.

Copperhead

[vipernot4sale]

d.t that reg cab is badass..how about a black sport model.

[JeffB2002]

I think that the designers did a good job keeping that Ram look that we all love. I'll admit, it may have to grow on me a little more, but I like it. I don't think that it borrows from the Ford and doesn't look, at all, like a Tundra. I hope that the bed tool boxes are just an option (I'm sure some owners will find them handy).

I'll have to see one in person to really tell. Keep the pics coming!
I am with you on that one. I like the space over the wheel wells in the bed.

[KLSU]

Is it me or does the truck look low to the ground like the new Chevy's? That is one thing I always liked about Dodge is there 4wd sat higher.

[quietpeen]

Is it me or does the truck look low to the ground like the new Chevy's? That is one thing I always liked about Dodge is there 4wd sat higher.

maybe that pic is of a 4x2

[4x4OffRoadRam]

Would a 4x2 have tow hooks?

[ramman1]

Would a 4x2 have tow hooks?

Yeap as crazy as it seems many of the 3rd gen 4x2's came with tow hooks.

[Ram3500Dually]

I've had tow hooks on every 2 wheel dually I have had

[RB24]

I just saw this. This is kinda what I was wanting.

What the 09 Ram should have looked like.

http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/files/1/2/0/0/2010_Ram_Mod_S.Weigel_2006.jpg


schwiiing

[RB24]

Would a 4x2 have tow hooks?


and my 4x4 doesnt :crazy:

[JackedDak03]

I like it, and it probably looks best as a sport model- all one color

[Dodge_Tomahawk]

d.t that reg cab is badass..how about a black sport model.

I reconfigured it...closest i can get it with the program i use..old consumer program for pictures for playin around.

[07HEMI]

Sweet nice job,

[ScatDak]

Here are a few pics I PS I hope you enjoy them.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramblack.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramblue.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramredjpg.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramsilverjpg.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramred22jpg.jpg

[cc1999]

Those look great!!!!

How about an all white or white with silver on the bottom. just like these, nothing but a color change.

Again those look great. I realy like the black and silver.

[ScatDak]

Making it white you lose alot of the details in the truck. But I did what you asked

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramwhitejpg.jpg

[bradleykavin]

that thing is PHOTOSHOPPED!

[bradleykavin]

and when i meant by photoshopped, i mean the original picture

[cc1999]

Making it white you lose alot of the details in the truck. But I did what you asked

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v611/IronMike/Ramwhitejpg.jpg

Thank You!!!
I like it, I set as my desk top back ground.

[dale3fan3]

if you read through the thread you will see that it has been confirmed by people that have seen the 09 ram in person. Also the mopar website thae photo was on was taken down for hours, when it came back up it was gone.

[cc1999]

Anyone else think it's odd that Chrysler is extending the holiday down time for the Ram plants an extra month. I wonder if they are not retooling now, for a real early release. They said it was to drop the inventory's down to avoid a fire sale, when the 09' comes out. But they already have 6k rebates on the 08's. I am thinking after they debute the new truck in Detroit next month, they might be going to announce an earlier than expected release date, like maybe March or April?????

[Ram3500Dually]

and when i meant by photoshopped, i mean the original picture

LOL, you should have read the whole thread. Would you like to make a little wager on that? :D

[07HEMI]

We make a couple bolts for the new HEMI engine in the Ram and Jeep. They want us to start shipping in two weeks ? Don't know where they go but I had to let them know what sort mach and timing for the first run of 100,000 pc.

[JackedDak03]

Anyone else think it's odd that Chrysler is extending the holiday down time for the Ram plants an extra month. I wonder if they are not retooling now, for a real early release. They said it was to drop the inventory's down to avoid a fire sale, when the 09' comes out. But they already have 6k rebates on the 08's. I am thinking after they debute the new truck in Detroit next month, they might be going to announce an earlier than expected release date, like maybe March or April?????


I was thinking the same thing- In my area they're giving $5500 Cash Back Rebate AND 0% for 60 or 1.9% for 72 months on the 08's. I have a feeling the 09's will be available by March or April.

[Ram3500Dually]

Do you have any idea what it takes to change over a plant from one model to the next? There will be no new Rams till the earliest late August or early September.

[Darcity]

Do you have any idea what it takes to change over a plant from one model to the next? There will be no new Rams till the earliest late August or early September.

I second that motion! :gr_patrio

[TR4Petty]

If those pictures of the '09 are accurate, they will sell a ton of them. I like the grille slanted forward like that! I remember when the pre-07 Durango came out with it's grille slanted slightly backward. It messed up the whole looks of that SUV!

[TimberlineRam]

Any way to get one in dark green? maybe with gold flares

Thanks

[cc1999]

Do you have any idea what it takes to change over a plant from one model to the next? There will be no new Rams till the earliest late August or early September.

I would think 45-60 days would cover it. Thats about how long it will be shut down, counting the normal Christmas holiday time.

[JackedDak03]

Do you have any idea what it takes to change over a plant from one model to the next? There will be no new Rams till the earliest late August or early September.

No I don't, but Didn't Chrysler just change their plants over to a new type of process where it doesn't take nearly as long anymore? I'm not being wise, I'm honestly asking a question.

[JackedDak03]

Any way to get one in dark green? maybe with gold flares

Thanks

Can someone PC one as a NightRunner? All black with Blacked out headlights?

[cc1999]

I saw a picture of the New 2008 Resistal Cowboy model. The colors and the 2 tone fender flairs make me think that the pic of the 2009 we have all been looking at, is an 09' version of the new Resistal model. The article on the 08 3500 I was reading said it comes with a Resistal Cowboy Hat.

[ggravant]

Any way to get one in dark green? maybe with gold flares

ThanksI stumbled across this green color when I was dinking with the truck in photoshop. Here are three variations of green and green/gold

[Ram3500Dually]

No I don't, but Didn't Chrysler just change their plants over to a new type of process where it doesn't take nearly as long anymore? I'm not being wise, I'm honestly asking a question.

They are called Flex Plants. It means they can build more than one vehicle at a time. Tell you what. Go down to your dealer and see if you can order an 08. That should be enough of an answer right there. Orders for the model usually end in May for the July buildout. So orders would have had to be stopped at the end of September for a December build out. Have you heard of anybody going into the dealer to order a new truck and they said no can do? Also, you would already be able to order an 09 if they were starting to build them in January or February. Building 800 trucks a day at 3 plants how long do you think they would stockpile unordered vehicles? I worked for 30 years at Chrysler and know how it works. Believe me when I tell you they are NOT changing the plants over till end of May at the VERY earliest and probably not till July 1st.

[Darcity]

Please, no more Ford Eddie Bauer trimmed chops! I hope that Dodge doesn't trim them like that. :huh:

[ggravant]

Please, no more Ford Eddie Bauer trimmed chops! I hope that Dodge doesn't trim them like that. :huh: Hey - don't kill the messenger (or photoshopper) ... just providing a public service ;)

[Lookin4aTruck]

God I can't decide which one of these is the ugliest.

[JMc]

Hey its all opinion right? Ever since these new pics came out I' cant help but feel a little let down. Ill give them credit they kept with the grill that we all love but somehow Im left wanting more. I was expecting something bolder. But perhaps once there is one actually in front of my eyes and finger tips, I may change my mind.

[JackedDak03]

How about that nightrunner chop?

[TimberlineRam]

What can i say Im partial to green. I'd agree on the flares though i dont know what came over me

http://www.dodgetalk.com/gallery/files/4/7/4/8/lower.jpg

[ggravant]

What can i say Im partial to green. I'd agree on the flares though i dont know what came over me

I think some greens are very nice - especially those ones that almost look black, but will pop some green in the sunlight.

[Darcity]

Hey - don't kill the messenger (or photoshopper) ... just providing a public service ;)

:o Sorry ggravant! Outstanding chop and changing the color on the truck...especially that Hunter Green (I'd flip if Dodge carried that color..man I love that color!) :D

OTOH, I don't know what Dodge was thinking when they came up with that trim design. :huh: Besides, other truck mgfrs mock us, not vice-versa. :crazy:

[S. Weigel]

Here's a Rumble variant.

- Posted as well, on the Chops-09 thread, in the concept/modified section of DodgeTalk.

-the lower yellow-rumble should look familiar to someone. :D

[cc1999]

I still think the original pic is the 09' Resistal eddition. The resistal eddition is coming out as a late 08 pkg. aimed square at the King Ranch crowd.
http://www.dodge.com/en/2008/ram_3500/models/mc_resistol/index.html

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/resistol1.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/resistol2.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/resistol3.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/09/resistol5.jpg

[rowdymopar]

I dont really care much for the restyleing of the concept RAM I say go Big or stay Home It's not drastic enough to make a difference in sales & it does resemble a Ford , I say Lead the way everyone else will follow just like Dodge did in 2002

[quietpeen]

Here's a Rumble variant.

- Posted as well, on the Chops-09 thread, in the concept/modified section of DodgeTalk.

-the lower yellow-rumble should look familiar to someone. :D

wow those rumble variant's look good. Putting a sport front end on like that made a big difference imo.

[Bubba_Hemi]

While I'm not much for the color scheme... I really like the setup of the Resistol Ram. Not to mention I like the hat too... even if I did name my dog Stetson. lol

A link I came across awhile back: http://blogs.automotive.com/6217479/miscellaneous/2008-dodge-ram-resistol-edition-covers-drivers-head/index.html

[TimberlineRam]

[QUOTE=Bubba_Hemi] Not to mention I like the hat too... even if I did name my dog Stetson. lol

QUOTE]

Well I got one named Ruger lol. The Resistol loooked good at the Texas State Fair... Just a bit pricey even if they throw in a hat to go with it.

[Bubba_Hemi]

It better at least be their 200X... lol

[mocho]

While I'm not much for the color scheme... I really like the setup of the Resistol Ram. Not to mention I like the hat too... even if I did name my dog Stetson. lol

A link I came across awhile back: http://blogs.automotive.com/6217479/miscellaneous/2008-dodge-ram-resistol-edition-covers-drivers-head/index.html

That's a really good looking package, but the price is insane. I really hope the 2009 ram looks a lot better then that pic, because that pic looks disgusting :tdwn: Can't even believe they are going to a 5'3" bed on a fullsize pickup, that a move towards what imports are doing, putting a little bed on a SUV :crazy: I just hope dodge gets it together after the current look, because the fords are looking better and better...

[ttuguy1983]

it would not surprise me one bit to see optional 22's and a larger hemi option in addition to the 5.7l hemi. a 6.4 has been rumored ( god i what i would do to get my hands on a 6.4l hemi ram). can you imagine a 6.4l hemi and then adding some forced induction? I hope they are faster than those crapy toyotas.

[SmokinMirror]

Hell many 5.7s are faster than the toyotas even with a few disadvantages.

[nickd907]

[QUOTE=Bubba_Hemi]While I'm not much for the color scheme... I really like the setup of the Resistol Ram. Not to mention I like the hat too... even if I did name my dog Stetson. lol

A friend of mine, name his son that.

He is a member on here, DodgeFan01

[HemiMagnum]

I still think the original pic is the 09' Resistal eddition. The resistal eddition is coming out as a late 08 pkg. aimed square at the King Ranch crowd.



Dodge knows better than to think that their truck will compete with a high end king ranch. just compare interiors and the dodge looks like its 15 years older. Hopefully 09 dodge will introduce a high end luxury interior like GMC and Ford have in their 08 trucks

[ttuguy1983]

a stock toyota single cab with the 5.7 can cut to 60 in about 5.6-5.7 secs. best time i've gottne in my regular cab hemi was 5.7 secs with chip/intake/exhaust and 305/50/20's to get it moving (had to launch at 2000 rpm too). I think the new dodge will need to be near the 4000hp mark at the fly to run to 60 quicker than 5.6.

[ttuguy1983]

you do have to hand it to ford...... the king ranch interiors are nice as hell. the stitched leather seats are sick.

[nabobz]

4000hp might be a little overkill. I don't think our Rams are THAT heavy!

[JackedDak03]

I agree, it will need to be near 400HP or be in the 380ish range, but have a 6 speed tranny with a higher rear gear ratio. Those 5.7 Yota's have a 4.30 rear gear, take that away and they won't be as quick-but they are still powerful no matter how you cut it.

[ramman1]

Dodge knows better than to think that their truck will compete with a high end king ranch. just compare interiors and the dodge looks like its 15 years older. Hopefully 09 dodge will introduce a high end luxury interior like GMC and Ford have in their 08 trucks

Looks to me like thats what their looking to do. I agree the King Ranch interior is nice, but from the looks of the Resistol pkg I think its competitve. I have to disagree w/u because I think it looks pretty sweet!

[HemiMagnum]

Looks to me like thats what their looking to do. I agree the King Ranch interior is nice, but from the looks of the Resistol pkg I think its competitve. I have to disagree w/u because I think it looks pretty sweet!

The resistol ram has captains chairs that have a hat embroidered into them. Still the same ol crap interior. I loved my dodge and i miss my cummins, but its the engine i miss. After driving in my truck i love the factory brake controller, digital dual zone climate control, climate control/radio control/cruise controls on the steering wheel, automatic headlights, cavernous door storage, big back seat, boost/trans temp gauges, driver information center on the gauge cluster, power telescoping and power fold mirrors, rear backup sensors in my bumper. Features that i feel like i cant live without anymore.

Dodge just needs to catch up on features and they will have a great interior. I dont see where all their money goes! Ford has different body styles for the F150 and Super Duty trucks, thus spending money on all that. Dodge uses the same of all. Where is all the money going that they cant make a good interior? They have a diesel that works perfect as opposed to ford who is constantly in lawsuit.


I just wish dodge would step up a little on the features.

[ramman1]

Lol I hear your points loud and clear. Sounds to me like you need to swap in a cummins and youd be good to go right :D

[srimay]

just wait... that is only the 1/2 ton Ram. 2500 all the way up to 5500 are another animal.

just found out from a reliable source, that dodge is jumping into the fray with two different looks, just like ferd and chebby.

[W_A_Watson_II]

They may have different looks like the general's, but not the ferds, Dodge can't afford two different cab and interior designs.

[srimay]

hey bro, they already have plans for 2 different interior packages in the 1500.

it's gonna happen

[W_A_Watson_II]

Different trim levels with the same CAB and mechanicals is one thing, but when you have all different sheet metal and mechanicals as ferd did that's a lot more cost (design, testing, government testing, etc...).

[cc1999]

The resistol ram has captains chairs that have a hat embroidered into them. Still the same ol crap interior. I loved my dodge and i miss my cummins, but its the engine i miss. After driving in my truck i love the factory brake controller, digital dual zone climate control, climate control/radio control/cruise controls on the steering wheel, automatic headlights, cavernous door storage, big back seat, boost/trans temp gauges, driver information center on the gauge cluster, power telescoping and power fold mirrors, rear backup sensors in my bumper. Features that i feel like i cant live without anymore.

Dodge just needs to catch up on features and they will have a great interior. I dont see where all their money goes! Ford has different body styles for the F150 and Super Duty trucks, thus spending money on all that. Dodge uses the same of all. Where is all the money going that they cant make a good interior? They have a diesel that works perfect as opposed to ford who is constantly in lawsuit.


I just wish dodge would step up a little on the features.

I here ya, as well. I just sold my King Ranch PSD 4x4 last week, I have an 08 1/2 ton Laramie do to come in any day. Dealer trade was 750 miles away, so waiting on a transport to pick it up. I know there are features, like you mentioned that I will miss, but the PSD engine is not one of them.

With all the emmision BS that been piled on to the Diesel trucks as of late. I am not sure I really trust any of them, with diesel fuel running 30-60 cents a gallon more than gas, My King Ranch sat parked since last summer for the most part, and I drove the wheels off my dodge gas work truck.

So I decided to move back to a 1/2 ton crew/quad cab and trade my steel trailers in for aluminum ones.

As most of us Dodge Hemi owners know, there is not really a half ton engine that can compare to the Hemi's, I have had many a 5.3L chevys and and 5.4 fords they are a joke compared to the Hemi. The Ford 5.4 is by far the worst. My main thing is to have a reliable powertrain that can perform the work I need to perform, so for me the Dodge looks like the best choice. Good price, best powertrain, decent on the eyes, the GMs still look ugly to me. So another Dodge Hemi it is.

I wish I would have waited to sell the King Ranch, I would have liked to have waited for one of these new 09's Rams.

[ttuguy1983]

4000hp might be a little overkill. I don't think our Rams are THAT heavy!

i think the 390-400 hp range is a fairly reasonable estimate. reason being, the toyota 5.7 is a dohc 32 valve v8. when comparing our ram's hemi 16 valve pushrod v8 i would venture to guess that along with our gearing we'd need to better the toyota in peak hp rating. the new ram is said to have variable valve timing which should help a great deal but is only a portion of the solution. take a look at the current 5.7 hemi's dyno curve verses the toyotas dyno curve and take note of the area under the curve. I dislike them as much as the next dodge fan, but fact is hemi's thrive at higher rpm's and are about par for a v8 at
lower rpm's. on the other hand a dohc v8 will pull at low rpm's as well as higher rpms.
:STY:

[ttuguy1983]

I agree, it will need to be near 400HP or be in the 380ish range, but have a 6 speed tranny with a higher rear gear ratio. Those 5.7 Yota's have a 4.30 rear gear, take that away and they won't be as quick-but they are still powerful no matter how you cut it.

i think the 390-400 hp range is a fairly reasonable estimate. reason being, the toyota 5.7 is a dohc 32 valve v8. when comparing our ram's hemi 16 valve pushrod v8 i would venture to guess that along with our gearing we'd need to better the toyota in peak hp rating. the new ram is said to have variable valve timing which should help a great deal but is only a portion of the solution. take a look at the current 5.7 hemi's dyno curve verses the toyotas dyno curve and take note of the area under the curve. I dislike them as much as the next dodge fan, but fact is hemi's thrive at higher rpm's and are about par for a v8 at lower rpm's. on the other hand a dohc v8 will pull at low rpm's as well as higher rpms.

[JMc]

Two cab designs is probably just one reason why ferd is going broke. I hope Dodge doesnt do this. Different grills is one thing. But a whole different cab?

[JackedDak03]

The resistol ram has captains chairs that have a hat embroidered into them. Still the same ol crap interior. I loved my dodge and i miss my cummins, but its the engine i miss. After driving in my truck i love the factory brake controller, digital dual zone climate control, climate control/radio control/cruise controls on the steering wheel, automatic headlights, cavernous door storage, big back seat, boost/trans temp gauges, driver information center on the gauge cluster, power telescoping and power fold mirrors, rear backup sensors in my bumper. Features that i feel like i cant live without anymore.

Dodge just needs to catch up on features and they will have a great interior. I dont see where all their money goes! Ford has different body styles for the F150 and Super Duty trucks, thus spending money on all that. Dodge uses the same of all. Where is all the money going that they cant make a good interior? They have a diesel that works perfect as opposed to ford who is constantly in lawsuit.


I just wish dodge would step up a little on the features.

I agree 100% about the interior, but your also comparing a brand new redesigned model to an outgoing model. If you put the 99-07 SD interior against the 2002-08 Ram interior than I'd say its a close call. But you are right since Dodge is aiming its 08 Resistal against the 08 King Ranch, there is no comparison.

By the way, all the money and small features you talk about went to Daimler and into their Mercedes cars. Back in the late 90's early 2000's it seemed almost every truck came with auto headlights and steering wheel controls.

[cc1999]

Sunday, January 13, 2008


It was said that Chrysler had requested a permit from Detriot city officials to run cattle down the street as part of the launch of there all new RAM trucks. Looks like this might be the case since here in the press conference schedual the chrysler confernce is being held outside.

NAIAS 2008 News Flash:

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