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BobTom
07-15-2007, 09:32 PM
I have reposted my note with the addition of a link to view the wiring drawings mentioned below. There are other photos there, please ignore them, I hope it works.

On a recent trip my 1991 Dodge Van camper van lost its alternator. Several stops at several shops were to no avail. The last stop, at a Dodge dealer, resulted in a new Nipponsendo 120 amp alternator wired up in a Mickey Mouse fashion just to get me back on the road. The alternator doesn’t have a built in voltage regulator, it is built into the computer module and cannot be replaced unless the whole module is replaced, which was 3 days away.

The tech guy ran a wire from the field ground screw to a switch I could control if the voltage went too high. It did at any speed over idle. I made it home in 2 days of interstate driving stopping every 1.5 hours to let it charge the battery up to 13.3 volts from the 11.9 volts it went down to while driving. If I was in stop and go city driving I would have had to stop just as soon and only go 25 miles and not 75.

The tech guy said the RV battery isolator was installed wrong and the Dodge alternator wiring was all changed. That is why he had to do the Mickey Mouse wiring.

After looking at my non factory manuals and my van’s wiring, I think I have figured out why and how the factory wiring was changed for the isolator, which has worked flawlessly since 1991. My question is, can a voltage regulator be installed in this new field ground wire to regulate the charge rate and bypass the old built in regulator? If so, how? And what kind? I would think that any regulator in this line would act like regulators do by the rapid on and off control of the field ground.

I have made diagrams of how Dodge did it originally, how the RV company did it, and how it is now. If these would help in answering I could send them to anyone via email attachment. I am at dignifyde@aol.com if it is necessary to reach me personally.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dignifyde/

Thank you for taking the time to read this epistle, BobTom.

charlie1935
07-15-2007, 10:02 PM
I talked to an fellow that is a rebuilder of alternators some time ago about using a later alt. for a magnum on my 87 5th Ave. He said that it would work by runing the wires from the fields to the regulator. As of yet I haven't tried it because I haven't found a double V belt pully that fits. If you have a rebuilder near you maybe he can advise on using a regulater and bypassing the computer. I don't know if that would work but just an idea. :gr_patrio

B-300
07-16-2007, 02:54 AM
I don't understand the need for an isolator in the first place since the is only one battery to charge...An isolator is used when one alternator is charging two batteries so they won't drain each other if they have different voltages.
The earlier pre computerized vans used an electronic regulator voltage regulator that had one red wire connected to the regulator one to the field of the alternator, small terminal. (Were your diagrams say many splices) The other wire from the regulator was green and connected to the 2nd small terminal on the alternator...This would be similiar to the switch and controls the current thru the alternator field thus the charging. (The red wire connection at the regulator is a voltage reference for it.)
I have seen this schematic in a Haynes manual for the larger 120amp nippon denso style alternator so I suppose it would work.

BobTom
07-16-2007, 12:09 PM
I guess I didn't mention that my van is an RV camper van with an additional battery for the RV parts. I refer to this battery as the "back battery," in the best technical jargon I can use.