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Crazyvan
04-03-2007, 01:46 AM
Hey all, my name is Dalton and I'm a newbie with an '89 B350, 5.9L TB (I think it's a 5.9, my VIN check yielded two different engines, what the crap?). I also posted it as a 250 yesterday, don't know what I was thinking...

Thanks to Nate the Skate for your reply about my non-starting van, but I was in error about my symptoms as well. I rechecked for fuel and found that I'm not getting that either. So no voltage at coil, and no fuel. The distributor pick-up looks pretty corroded/ chewed up, and there is corrosion on all points in the distributor cap. I will replace these, but why would I not have voltage at my coil if this were my only problem? I did the on/off/on/off/on thing for codes and all I got was 12 and 55, power loss and end of codes. Hello... :huh:

Also, after trying to start again yesterday, I now have no response from ignition switch. It was cranking (I was checking for fuel flow), and then nothing. Re-tried switch, cranked a few times, then nothing. Now I can't get it to crank, no clicking, no oil/instrument lights, nothing. All I have now is good voltage from the battery and a crushing headache :VHOT:

Do I have an asd or asm relay (or whatever it is called) problem or possibly a bad fuse link? Should I jack up the radiator cap and put a new van under it?

Have to say that this is a great forum, everyone is friendly and helpful and genuine, which is a rare thing these days, especially online. Thanx to all for your help and info, I am learning so much.

Ram4ever
04-03-2007, 07:00 AM
I love your sense of humor!

My vans are a '79 & an '81, and most of my experience is with them and even older vehicles. Yours is so much newer that unfortunately I'm not going to be much good to you beyond seconding your suggestion of the possibility of faulty fusible links in your wiring harness. They can cause loss of power to entire systems in a vehicle. Faulty ground connections can be equally as evil, particularly if there's a computer involved.

I'd try looking for the chassis and engine grounds and make sure they're tight, and take a meter to the fusible links. Sometimes I've heard of batteries which were on their way out causing strange symptoms reminiscent of some of yours. If these don't pan out hopefully the gurus here can help you as much as they've helped me!

Good luck! :gr_patrio

Dodgevanman
04-03-2007, 07:36 AM
Check your other post Crazyvan. There is an ASD relay.

The 8th digit of the VIN will tell you what engine you have.

van-nut
04-04-2007, 10:56 PM
Hmmm........a B350 possesed by Satan..........could this be the long awaited and much anticipated sequel to "Christine" :D :D :D

Baaaaaad to the Bone.........Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba Ba BAAAAD.

Be carefull with that sucker. ;)

Pete

Crazyvan
04-08-2007, 06:41 PM
No Pete, I'm afraid it's not the sequel. Christine was beautiful (as are all psyco chicks, car or other), but my van is, well, lets just say 'ease nah sessy.'

I have installed a new ASD relay, as per Nate the Skate, (available from Chrysler only, at least around here) but my ignition problems remain. I have buzzing with key in ignition and in the start position, but no lights or anything in the run position. It won't crank or click or anything. I did look for fuse links on my posative wires but could only find two big connectors, neither of which contained fuses.

Are my fuse links hiding somewhere, or maybe a bad starter solenoid? I have good connections at all these places, I have good grounds at these places. Maybe my pickup coil asm. now? I'm not very good at this am I?

Ram4ever
04-09-2007, 09:06 AM
OH! -The fusible links aren't a glass or cartridge fuse. They're made of stranded wire. They look much like a regular wire, only they are covered with hypalon rubber rather than PVC. They have a small rubber slug molded on the ends. If one is bad, you cut out the entire thing, rubber slugs and all, and solder in a new piece of fusible link wire, readily available in inexpensive rolls at your local parts stores.
The wires are color coded as to what gauge wire they are made out of. The gauge determines how much current they will withstand before they blow out, just like a regular fuse. The fusible links are going to be in the engine compartment, up along the top of the firewall in front of the driver.
They might be tucked right up against the firewall in behind the main wiring harness, but since they're intended to be replaceable, they won't be inside any of the tape wrapped harnesses or inside any looms.

Here's a quick breakdown of the Dodge fusible link color codes:
Black = 12 gauge
Red 14 gauge
Dark Blue 16 gauge
Gray 18 gauge
Orange 20 gauge
Light Green 30 gauge

If you have to replace any, try to figure out what drew so much current in the first place, or the new one might blow right out too. Remember to disconnect your battery before working on the electrical system.

-And don't forget to wear your cross... :D

Crazyvan
04-09-2007, 05:49 PM
Thanks Ram4ever - I'll take a look at the wires. Man, you guys are saving my life.

I don't know that I blew a link, but I'm checking everything now. If they're good, I'm going to check out my ignition switch, 'cause I think it may be bad now.

It's a good thing this isn't my work van, you know, the one I use every day to do work?

Oh wait... never mind.

Chump
04-14-2007, 05:40 AM
You need to check/clean/tighten all cables from the battery and at both ends. Your problem with no fuel/spark is probably a bad pickup assembly in the distributor. If the pickup goes bad, the computer sees NO pulse from it and shuts down the ASD relay. Sounds like you have 2 problems now. :IDEA:
Recharge your battery if you have been cranking for awhile.