Last straw

[old tired rebel]

Well after a visit from my case worker yesterday I am forced to sell my truck.
They refuse to put a wheelchair lift on my truck saying it's too old.I placed a ad in the classified forum here if anyone is interested.

[Speed Dragon]

WTF does the age of the truck have to do w/ it? That's kinda stupid. I bet if it was Chip Foose's truck they'd do it:mad:

You have to use a wheelchair I take it?

[old tired rebel]

WTF does the age of the truck have to do w/ it? That's kinda stupid. I bet if it was Chip Foose's truck they'd do it:mad:

You have to use a wheelchair I take it?Yeah it's stupid My truck,Both my cars are too old to have a carrier put on them.in NC anything over 100,000 miles exceeds mechanical limits. Anything over 5 years old is too old cause it has a chance of having more than 100,000 miles. Yes I have to I can only walk very short distances without losing my breath. These stupids rules keep me inside all the time

[Speed Dragon]

Ah that sucks.

[Parson4]

Is your's a power chair or standard wheel chair? Does it have to be a lift? Could you use one of those carriers that mount in the receiver that you can drive/roll up on like my wife's does??

[DiverDwnPowrRam]

F that! I say we all write foose overhauling and have him fix up your ride... That is a stupid rule!

[old tired rebel]

F that! I say we all write foose overhauling and have him fix up your ride... That is a stupid rule!I think he only does California cars

[bherder]

Well after a visit from my case worker yesterday I am forced to sell my truck.
They refuse to put a wheelchair lift on my truck saying it's too old.I placed a ad in the classified forum here if anyone is interested.

So, OTR.... What's to keep you from saying "I'm NOT selling my truck!... I'm handicapped and I'm in NEED. "???

See, THIS is the kind of stuff that BURNS MY AZZ!! They (As in the FEDS) have spent $,$$$,$$$ on travel-trailers for 'Katrina-Refugees' that are SITTING THERE ROTTING in corn-fields and swamps, but they CAN'T buy you a rig to get around in??? They have to 'approve' what you choose to drive in?? WTF is WRONG with this picture???

Hey, it's not just that your'e a Mopar guy.... I absolutely hate seeing someone get screwed over while others get a 'free pass' because they bitch louder.... :VHOT: :VHOT: :VHOT:

[old tired rebel]

I have 2 Chevy Caprices a 85&86 both run they don't qualify.I have a F100 that a friend wants to pull apart and rebuild it, it don't qualify,Last but not least and My Favorite my 73 D100 runs near perfect does not qualify. The case worker kept saying it has to be 5 years or newer so I screwed it doesn't meet their Stupid Standards. I can't buy a Lift they are too expensive so I'm suppose to go into debt of $600-700 a month including the extra insurance in case something happens to the lift. We don't live in a Republic we live in a Democracy.

[HeadlandRam]

Man you do not need to be treat with this load of bullshit.Forgive my ignorance but can't you get a metal frame built in the cab, put in a tilt sterring wheel column and have 2 500 lb accurators or winch or a hank crank lift and be able to slide under the cab or is this a pipedream. Damn... you sure as hell don't deserve this and no does anybody else.

[old tired rebel]

I have a Powerchair it's so heavy my 2 sons can't pick it up so it takes a very strong lift to pick it up.It also won't fit in the cab. My powerchair is designed to carry over 350lbs everything is extreme duty.

[HeadlandRam]

How far can you walk OTR? Can't you have a swivle bucket seat like those in john deere tractors that can move and face the door so you can just sit in? like so:

http://bestmobility.com/images/SHOPRIDER_Sunrunner_4_wheel_Electric_Mobility_Scoo ter_3.jpg

or this

http://world.honda.com/Tokyo2001/auto/welfare/series/image/p06.jpg

[old tired rebel]

I can walk 20-30 feet no problem before I run out of breath.The problem is a Wheelchair Carrier is extremely expensive.

[HeadlandRam]

How wide is your powerchair? you could have one of those mid box things on the chevy colorado. You know how it swings open.

[Parson4]

I have my wife's wheel chair carrier that I built her 4 years ago. Her power chair weighs more than me & my Brother can lift together (of course we is only "OLD" tired cowboys), and we carried it on this platform over many a road, inc. off road. It slides into the trailer hitch receiver on the back of my jeep liberty. It has two ramps, and she would get off and I would drive it on and button it down. It isn't a lift (they are expensive & we can't afford one), but it sure has worked good.

You are welcome to it FREE of charge, ( I can build her another one ) if I can afford to ship it to you.... :)

PS- I will post pic's of it in the morning if you are interested

PPSS- BTW It folds up flat against the tailgate like one of those luggage carries as well

[Mopower79]

Ah man that sucks!!!
Sorry to hear that reb... But I guess I don't understand..
The case worker wants you to go & finance a new vehicle so they can put a free lift on it???

What kinda $$$ are we talking about here??
If thats the case couldn't you just finance the lift & be money ahead???
that way, as your taking off in your 73 with your newly financed lift... You can flip your caseworker the finger in your new rear views!!!! :D

[Speed Dragon]

How much is a lift, anyway? I might be able to find you a good used one, not sure but me and my Dad know a few people that might be able to find/get one fairly cheap. Actually, I know a few guys who could build you one :)

[old tired rebel]

The lifts start at $3,000 and up so one I need would be a couple of thousand more. So since I have to sell the truck,I will get another Ram and have them add a few things just for making me sell my truck.

[B-300]

It takes 5yrs and 100,000 miles to work the bugs out and get the engine broken-in on most vehicles.
You can roll back miles (they didn't have the 7th digit so it could be agrued). It's a little harder to roll back time though.. 5years seems highly restrictive.
--B-300--

[bherder]

It takes 5yrs and 100,000 miles to work the bugs out and get the engine broken-in on most vehicles.
You can roll back miles (they didn't have the 7th digit so it could be agrued). It's a little harder to roll back time though.. 5years seems highly restrictive.
--B-300--

Yeah, NO SH*T....

I wonder if the little pencil-necked geek working at whatever 'GubberMENTAL' agency knows how well built (And less problematic) a Mid-70's rig is vs. a 2002 rig?

Of course not, he/she ain't that old. The 70's were something that happened in someone else's universe.

"Gee, I'm sorry Mr. OTR.... But you see... There is a family of Illegal Aliens struggling just to get by living down the way from you... Yes, the Gubberment needs every last dollar it can get, so as to afford these poor HARD WORKING 'immigrants' FREE health-care, FREE education, NEXT-TO-NOTHING housing and.... Oh, by the way.... They'll be taking your JOB at (Insert name here).... (They work for almost nothing you know...)

Yeah, and we KNOW you're a disabled American Citizen... Paid your taxes and SS your whole life... But..... Well..... I'm SURE you understand, don't you?

DON'T let the door hit you in the AZZ on the way out, by the way.... Thank you VERY MUCH Mr. OTR!!! KEEP LIVING so we can take YOUR money and give it to OTHERS!! Bye bye!! Take CARE!!

(Hey..... Bob..... Call 'security'.... This guy might be back... )

[HeadlandRam]

Yeah, NO SH*T....

I wonder if the little pencil-necked geek working at whatever 'GubberMENTAL' agency knows how well built (And less problematic) a Mid-70's rig is vs. a 2002 rig?

Of course not, he/she ain't that old. The 70's were something that happened in someone else's universe.

"Gee, I'm sorry Mr. OTR.... But you see... There is a family of Illegal Aliens struggling just to get by living down the way from you... Yes, the Gubberment needs every last dollar it can get, so as to afford these poor HARD WORKING 'immigrants' FREE health-care, FREE education,
NEXT-TO-NOTHING housing and.... Oh, by the way.... They'll be taking your JOB at (Insert name here).... (They work for almost nothing you know...)

Yeah, and we KNOW you're a disabled American Citizen... Paid your taxes and SS your whole life... But..... Well..... I'm SURE you understand, don't you?

DON'T let the door hit you in the AZZ on the way out, by the way.... Thank you VERY MUCH Mr. OTR!!! KEEP LIVING so we can take YOUR money and give it to OTHERS!! Bye bye!! Take CARE!!

(Hey..... Bob..... Call 'security'.... This guy might be back... )

Well said bheder

Thank you american buracracy

but to be honest what goes around come around. When the "pencil neck" will be in his 60's he will be getting screwed over the same way

[Parson4]

Heyyyyyyyyy bherder, now DON'T be complaing bout dem Illegal Aliens, cause if you run dem off, den we won't have any thing for "Target Practice" out here in the Arizona Desert !! ;)

[HeadlandRam]

Heyyyyyyyyy bherder, now DON'T be complaing bout dem Illegal Aliens, cause if you run dem off, den we won't have any thing for "Target Practice" out here in the Arizona Desert !! ;)

Man I need to get out there. I got 3 in. 00 buck just ready to shoot and I got my dad's pump to use ;) :) :gr_patrio

[Parson4]

You can come and go with me next month if you don't mind tent camping. I will be down on the border all of April except for Easter weekend, with the rest of the minutemen..........Y'all come on down

[HeadlandRam]

You can come and go with me next month if you don't mind tent camping. I will be down on the border all of April except for Easter weekend, with the rest of the minutemen..........Y'all come on down

I don't mind campin' but my parents might say HELL NO.I bet they would love seeing there son in camo pants ( Or shorts) wearing a grey army shirt with a shotgun in one hand and a mountain dew in the other.

:D

[Chump]

Have you tried calling your local news crew, Senator or Representative? Never know...might help.

[Parson4]

Ohhhhhhhh the news crew is down on the border right with us making sure we don't violate the rights of any illegals......We have two border patrol agents in prison right now for doing the job they were hired to do, and one sheriffs deputy going to prison at the present time for shooting at the tires of a drug running vehicle. HE infringed upon their rights :(

Our Governor is not allowing the border Patrol agents nor the Sheriffs dept to inforce the existing law, because she feels that it is unconstitutional.

[bherder]

You can come and go with me next month if you don't mind tent camping. I will be down on the border all of April except for Easter weekend, with the rest of the minutemen..........Y'all come on down

Rick.... I'm veeeery tempted to come down....

VERY...

(I lived in So. Cal for 35 years... I KNOW how it is... That's why I live up here..)

[Chump]

Ohhhhhhhh the news crew is down on the border right with us making sure we don't violate the rights of any illegals......We have two border patrol agents in prison right now for doing the job they were hired to do, and one sheriffs deputy going to prison at the present time for shooting at the tires of a drug running vehicle. HE infringed upon their rights :(

Our Governor is not allowing the border Patrol agents nor the Sheriffs dept to inforce the existing law, because she feels that it is unconstitutional.

I wasnt talking about the illegal problem...wasnt this thread about a disabled person and his truck/lift?

[bherder]

Have you tried calling your local news crew, Senator or Representative? Never know...might help.

THEY.... Are the majority of the prob....

(Hey Chump... You live in CO. .... You been to Boulder or Denver lately?
You'll know what I'm talking about, if you have... )

[bherder]

I wasnt talking about the illegal problem...wasnt this thread about a disabled person and his truck/lift?

Yeah.. :D

Did start out that way... :D :D :D

[bherder]

You can come and go with me next month if you don't mind tent camping. I will be down on the border all of April except for Easter weekend, with the rest of the minutemen..........Y'all come on down

TENT camping.... Out in the middle of the 'nowhere' dessert....

Man, I haven't done that in 20 years....

Oooooh, that sounds like fun... :D :D :D

[Chump]

On a note..yes I have this scum everywhere. I do belong to a great number of groups that want this problem stopped including support for Tom Tancredo, Numbers USA, Smith & Wesson Support Group, Glock Support Group and the C-130 Gunship Support Group, The Radiation Test Field Border Support Group and the Kennedy/McCain Employment Agency that they run out of their offices...all illegals should call their offices for jobs. I'm sure there is room for many of them at Martha's Vineyard!
All this is a slap in the face to my Great Grandparents who came here legally and went thru h*ll at Ellis Island to become citizens!

Enuff said from me on this thread.

[Speed Dragon]

I wasnt talking about the illegal problem...wasnt this thread about a disabled person and his truck/lift?We're some thread-jackin' fools, we are:D

[HeadlandRam]

We're some thread-jackin' fools, we are:D

yup sure are. Hey OTR any thing new?

[HeadlandRam]

Ohhhhhhhh the news crew is down on the border right with us making sure we don't violate the rights of any illegals..

What rights do they even have? In my opinian I think when you cross the border and you did not cross it the LEGAL way you have No rights,No privilages,No job,No nothing.

[Parson4]

What rights do they even have? In my opinian I think when you cross the border and you did not cross it the LEGAL way you have No rights,No privilages,No job,No nothing.

That's the problem.........To many bleeeeding hearts say they have the same rights as any other human being, or put more plainly, the same as any other red blooded Arizonan, orrrrrr US Citizen ! You can not get into the emergency room anywhere in Arizona because of all of the illegals.

NOW BACK TO REB'S PROBLEM....You should go to Wally World and see all of the illegals cars & pickups, with lift assemblies on them. They are ALLLLLL on welfare here, and Arizona has a Government sponsored program called Access which will buy anyone a lift device in they are on Access....The problem is, it is hard to get on Access if you are legal

As stated earlier, there is definatly something WRONG with this picture. :mad:

[bherder]

That's the problem.........To many bleeeeding hearts say they have the same rights as any other human being, or put more plainly, the same as any other red blooded Arizonan, orrrrrr US Citizen ! You can not get into the emergency room anywhere in Arizona because of all of the illegals.

NOW BACK TO REB'S PROBLEM....You should go to Wally World and see all of the illegals cars & pickups, with lift assemblies on them. They are ALLLLLL on welfare here, and Arizona has a Government sponsored program called Access which will buy anyone a lift device in they are on Access....The problem is, it is hard to get on Access if you are legal

As stated earlier, there is definatly something WRONG with this picture. :mad:

If we're lucky, this will just be a tip of the iceberg....
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2007-03-30T183926Z_01_N30263335_RTRUKOC_0_US-CRIME-IMMIGRANTS.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

[old tired rebel]

yup sure are. Hey OTR any thing new?No nothing new.My truck goes to ebay next week. I had to buy a used 97 Ford Supercab which with a little luck it will squeak by.I couldn't get any newer cause they said I didn't have enough income.I bought a house no problem but I can't buy a truck thats a few years old. I give up.:whackit:

[bherder]

On a note..yes I have this scum everywhere. I do belong to a great number of groups that want this problem stopped including support for Tom Tancredo, Numbers USA, Smith & Wesson Support Group, Glock Support Group and the C-130 Gunship Support Group, The Radiation Test Field Border Support Group and the Kennedy/McCain Employment Agency that they run out of their offices...all illegals should call their offices for jobs. I'm sure there is room for many of them at Martha's Vineyard!
All this is a slap in the face to my Great Grandparents who came here legally and went thru h*ll at Ellis Island to become citizens!

Enuff said from me on this thread.

Never knew you were such an 'activist'... :D

Rock on, m'man! ;)

[Parson4]

Hey Reb that's good news. Sorry bout the Dodge, but at least you can get your lift now and that's a plussssssss ! :)

Hang in their Pardner, this to shall pass.......

[bherder]

No nothing new.My truck goes to ebay next week. I had to buy a used 97 Ford Supercab which with a little luck it will squeak by.I couldn't get any newer cause they said I didn't have enough income.I bought a house no problem but I can't buy a truck thats a few years old. I give up.:whackit:

???

Maybe I missed something here....

Didn't you say the rig had to be no more than 5 years old (Or whatever milage)?
How is the pencil-neck-geek paper-pusher going to sign off on a 97'?? I must be missing something because I'm not in the middle of it?

Slap me upside the head if I'm missing something here....

OK, you're disabled and not a zillionaire.
You need a modified rig to meet your needs.
The GubberMENTAL pin-head steps in and says "OK, we will pay for the equipment you need, BUT.... The rig has to be 'this' new.."
You, not being a zillionaire, can't afford as 'new' a rig as the pin-head 'requires'...
Does anyone else see this just spinning in circles??

WTF is WRONG with this picture??? I must be missing something here, because I have a hard time (Not really) thinking that the good ol' USA is this screwed up.....

Just curious here OTR.... Set me/us straight....

[HeadlandRam]

No nothing new.My truck goes to ebay next week. I had to buy a used 97 Ford Supercab which with a little luck it will squeak by.I couldn't get any newer cause they said I didn't have enough income.I bought a house no problem but I can't buy a truck thats a few years old. I give up.:whackit:


That sucks OTR.But hopefully you will be able to by a newer dodge soon.Not to be personal but what is the condition you have? It sounds like the one my grandad has.

And bheder it seems the caseworker is appently bias toward fords hmmm

[old tired rebel]

???

Maybe I missed something here....

Didn't you say the rig had to be no more than 5 years old (Or whatever milage)?
How is the pencil-neck-geek paper-pusher going to sign off on a 97'?? I must be missing something because I'm not in the middle of it?

Slap me upside the head if I'm missing something here....

OK, you're disabled and not a zillionaire.
You need a modified rig to meet your needs.
The GubberMENTAL pin-head steps in and says "OK, we will pay for the equipment you need, BUT.... The rig has to be 'this' new.."
You, not being a zillionaire, can't afford as 'new' a rig as the pin-head 'requires'...
Does anyone else see this just spinning in circles??

WTF is WRONG with this picture??? I must be missing something here, because I have a hard time (Not really) thinking that the good ol' USA is this screwed up.....

Just curious here OTR.... Set me/us straight....Beherder you didn't miss anything at all. I had to get the newest I could cause my income didn't meet the income requirements for a that would carry a loan on something that new. In other words not enough money to pay for a $20,000 something truck.

This truck might work if I can get them to push harder. They would not consider my 73 even though the engine,trans,rear, and most of the interior had been rebuilt or redone.Basically it didn't matter that it is almost in the same shape as a newer one.

[old tired rebel]

That sucks OTR.But hopefully you will be able to by a newer dodge soon.Not to be personal but what is the condition you have? It sounds like the one my grandad has.

And bheder it seems the caseworker is appently bias toward fords hmmmI have neuropathy which means the nerves are dead in my feet from chemo and diabetes,also I cannot walk very far with out a wheelchair because I lose my breath after 20-30 feet.

[HeadlandRam]

Yeah that is similar to what my grandad has. He can walk for 15 minuets but then he needs to sit down and he out of breath

[old tired rebel]

Sorry I haven't been been on in a couple of days. Been over at a friends getting a carrier modified.I explained what was going on so it's almost ready.

[old tired rebel]

BTW I forgot My son that is Iraq Called me today he's coming home in June for R&R. He asked for the Dodge so it's going to him to carry on a new generation

[Speed Dragon]

Awesome, good news man.Now you can have your cake and eat it too :)

[Tankem]

Sorry I haven't been been on in a couple of days. Been over at a friends getting a carrier modified.I explained what was going on so it's almost ready.

Seems like things are working out for you.Thats good news.


BTW I forgot My son that is Iraq Called me today he's coming home in June for R&R. He asked for the Dodge so it's going to him to carry on a new generation

Thats great.Keep it in the family.Tell your son thanks for serving our country. :gr_patrio

[Speed Dragon]

Tell your son thanks for serving our country. :gr_patrio+1 :gr_patrio

BTW Tankem, you've got mail ;)

[HeadlandRam]

BTW I forgot My son that is Iraq Called me today he's coming home in June for R&R. He asked for the Dodge so it's going to him to carry on a new generation

Thats good OTR. Your son is in iraq wow.....I am glad there serving and I might be thinking on joining
:gr_patrio

+3 same here

[old tired rebel]

Thanks for the Thank You's from all of you. It was the best news I could get here lately.We have only seen our son twice since he joined the Army.

Now all I have to do is round up a few parts to fix it the way he wants it.

[HeadlandRam]

what is the way he wants it?, lifted, lowered, pro-street?

[old tired rebel]

He wants it the way it is but with power brakes and a few changes mostly mechanical

[HeadlandRam]

oh cool. So how is everything now OTR?

[1985power_ram]

dude you should have someone write to overhaulin' they do all 50 states.....worth a shot