Nate wrote
. . . the A727 trans pan will work on your A518 (46RH or 46RE).
However the A518 trans pan is already considerably deeper than a stock A727 pan because of the larger valve body. I'm thinking that a deep pan for an A727 won't be much deeper than the stock A518 pan, but hey it's worth a shot.
Nate, et al,
On kits where you buy a deeper pan for a 727 there are “spacers”, I’ve seen this on eBay. If I got a 518 pan would I need a “spacer”?
Thanks,
Dodgevanman
09-26-2006, 07:39 AM
I would say yes...the A518 pan is quite a bit deeper than the A727 pan.
Speed Dragon
09-26-2006, 08:27 AM
I don't get the question, if it fits then why do you need a spacer?
Mopower79
09-26-2006, 11:09 AM
Speed dragon... I think they mean the pan is deeper therefore holds more oil... & you need to put spacers under the filter to reach the oil level & keep it submerged!...
L5wolvesf
09-26-2006, 09:32 PM
Speed dragon... I think they mean the pan is deeper therefore holds more oil... & you need to put spacers under the filter to reach the oil level & keep it submerged!...
dragon is right. Thanks for the 411 guys
Speed Dragon
09-27-2006, 12:22 AM
dragon is right. Thanks for the 411 guysI am?? Sweeeet:D lol I think you mean Mopower79.
That would kinda make sense, then again, you wouldn't lower the level of fluid in the pan, the would be defeating the purpose. You should still fill it up to the same level as a stock pan. In which case you don't need to space the filter any, it'll still be submerged as usual only it'll have more fluid under it.
WARLOCK
09-27-2006, 01:31 AM
I know I'm off the topic, but I wanna ask anyhow.
Is the 727 the same length as the A518?
Dodgevanman
09-27-2006, 05:00 AM
The A518 is longer because the OD unit is in the tailshaft section. The tailshaft is also a bit larger.
Dodgevanman
09-27-2006, 05:04 AM
I still think you need a filter spacer for the deeper pan. If you look at the aftermarket deep pans kits that are available, they all come with a spacer. The A518 does not require a spacer because the valve body is bigger, but on an A727 it is not. The job of the spacer is to get that filter down into the fluid as far as possible.
Speed Dragon
09-27-2006, 09:21 AM
This is an advantage of some sort I assume?
Dodgevanman
09-27-2006, 11:33 AM
I'm no expert by any means but maybe to keep the filter submersed during cornering. That's the only thing I can think of.
Kinda like if you buy a deep oil pan...you don't want to use the stock pickup. You'd want the matching pickup to go along with the deeper pan.
WARLOCK
09-27-2006, 03:39 PM
I'm no expert by any means but maybe to keep the filter submersed during cornering. That's the only thing I can think of.
Kinda like if you buy a deep oil pan...you don't want to use the stock pickup. You'd want the matching pickup to go along with the deeper pan.
This I dont understand, if you go to a deeper pan, dont you have to put more fluid in it so the level will be the same? Isn't the whole idea of a deep pan to hold more fluid?
Dodgevanman
09-27-2006, 06:49 PM
Yes Rusty that is exactly the reason for going to a deeper pan. More fluid means a cooler running transmission. You'll notice alot of aftermarket deep pans are aluminum with cooling fins cast in.
The A518 on the other hand uses a deep pan because the valve body hangs lower than that of an A727.
L5wolvesf
09-27-2006, 09:33 PM
I am?? Sweeeet:D lol I think you mean Mopower79.
That would kinda make sense, then again, you wouldn't lower the level of fluid in the pan, the would be defeating the purpose. You should still fill it up to the same level as a stock pan. In which case you don't need to space the filter any, it'll still be submerged as usual only it'll have more fluid under it.
Ok i'ts been one of those weeks. But dare I say it again . . . Dragon is right, about Mopower79 actually being right.
And . . . Dragon brings up a good point re the fluid level. Comments ? Does anyone else want to be right on this :)
Thanks,
L5wolvesf
09-27-2006, 09:42 PM
I still think you need a filter spacer for the deeper pan. If you look at the aftermarket deep pans kits that are available, they all come with a spacer. The A518 does not require a spacer because the valve body is bigger, but on an A727 it is not. The job of the spacer is to get that filter down into the fluid as far as possible.
Do you have any recommendation on aftermarket trans pan?
Thanks
Mopower79
09-27-2006, 10:50 PM
This is the one I have!! Mopar Performance Parts!!
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/dcc-4120161ab_w.jpg
Heres the link!!
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DCC%2D4120161AB&N=700+400172+115&autoview=sku
$57.95 + S&H
Dodgevanman
09-28-2006, 04:49 AM
While expensive, the aluminum pans are probably the best because of their rigidity they tend not to warp.
As far as any particular brand goes...well I can't really say. I guess it boils down to the kit that offers the best value.
Speed Dragon
09-28-2006, 08:59 AM
I like whichever ones have a drain plug :) No more messy filter changes.
I guess it would help in cornering, since it would be further below the fluid level. For normal usage though, I don't think it matters much.
