Well, I went to change by rear bearings earlier this week after the left one went bad, and couldn't get the shafts out. So, I put the thing together, cursing the fact that my mechanic is probably going to get a good laugh being it's the second time I ran into trouble and had to bring it to him (the first, some of you might remember, is the sheared key problem on my harmonic balancer.
Well, as it turns out, the little pin you have to remove to push the axle shafts in to remove the clip was bent. Mechanic couldn't get it out either, despite pounding it with a punch. He showed be the retaining bolt was slightly bent, which I didn't notice. He disn't want to break a gear so he put it back together and suggested i bring it to a tranny shop.
Well, now I'm done with this one! Being that the front key was sheared and the pin bent only tells me someone along the line beat the ever-living crap out of this thing.
Replace engine--no problem. Replacing rear end--major PITA. Last component of the drive train, the transmission, failing in the dead of February--priceless.
Aint worth it. Soooo...the search in on! Shopping for another pre-88, preferably 4WD. I will be pulling the perfect front fenders off this rig, and cutting out the rear fenders from the bed. Would love to keep this one as a parts rig, but really don't want the thing sitting in the yard forever, or distracting from the old tractors I have lol! Anyone hears or sees anything in Connecticut/RI/Mass, let me know please. Thanks!
Dodgevanman
04-28-2006, 11:52 AM
That sucks! But hey everyone has their limits...you would probably find other things wrong with that truck down the road...it was cursed! ;)
Speed Dragon
04-29-2006, 12:44 PM
That sucks! But hey everyone has their limits...you would probably find other things wrong with that truck down the road...it was cursed! ;)Yeah, my club cab was like that, every time I got something fixed on it something else would pop up. That's why it is sitting in the back yard having parts robbed off it for Timex :D. I couldn't even sell it for $500:thatfunny So now I'm semi-parting it out. Anybody need a good 6ft bed?;)
swami2806
04-29-2006, 02:02 PM
Here's one I found, but it's a dealer listing. The proce is a bit high (though not too bad, if the plow works), but other than that it might be worth checking out. What's everyon think?
Yeah, my club cab was like that, every time I got something fixed on it something else would pop up.
I've only ever had that problem with the stupid FURD Ranger the town forces me to drive at work...
(In the last 2 years ... 95 Ranger with 130,000 miles)
New exhaust system... From the maifolds back...
New starter
New altenator
New front differental
New front drive shaft
New front hubs (4x4)
New coil
New steering gear box
New p/s pump
New front wheel bearings and seals
New heater blower motor
I'm so sick of working on that thing I could scream.....
bherder
04-30-2006, 10:03 AM
Well, now I'm done with this one! Being that the front key was sheared and the pin bent only tells me someone along the line beat the ever-living crap out of this thing.
Replace engine--no problem. Replacing rear end--major PITA. Last component of the drive train, the transmission, failing in the dead of February--priceless.
Awwwwwww Jim.... You give up way to easy.... ;)
I'd much rather R&R an axle than an engine! :D
What's your son going to think when he finds out 'Daddy..... gave up....'
Oh, the shame! The shame!! :D :D
bherder
04-30-2006, 10:08 AM
Here's one I found, but it's a dealer listing. The proce is a bit high (though not too bad, if the plow works), but other than that it might be worth checking out. What's everyon think?
Not a bad deal at all.... Especially if the plow is in good shape (A new Myers plow is more than $2,500).... 76k original? Sounds good.
What's that goofy looking thing bolted in the back?
swami2806
04-30-2006, 04:29 PM
Bruce--the thing on the back is a ladder rack I think. That will go if I get it. You'd rather do a rear end than a motor? Yep. That confirms it--you're nuts. Dealing with brakes, rusted u-bolts, gettin' the thing to sit right to bolt up. No thanks. If I had a second car, I would do it, but to do a motor and rear end back to back is too much---and they have to be done pronto. Don't want to break down with the baby! Future father-son project.
You're on the money with ford. God, I hate them. When i think of the time and money absolutely wasted on those things....
As far as the red truck goes, I keep forgeting about the milage. Bearing that in mind that is a good deal, cnsidering everything works. I'll call about it tomorow. :rck:
bherder
04-30-2006, 09:53 PM
Bruce--the thing on the back is a ladder rack I think. That will go if I get it.
Oh, OK.... Thought it might be a 'New England Rollbar' or something.. :D
You'd rather do a rear end than a motor? Yep. That confirms it--you're nuts.
Oh, well, that's a given... ;) Much rather R&R and axle....
Dealing with brakes,
Easy stuff....
rusted u-bolts,
Like dealing with rotten,rusty exhaust manifold bolts. Except U-bolts on the rear end are easily cut off with an angle grinder and replaced with new ones.
gettin' the thing to sit right to bolt up.
Hell-fire man! Everything is 'doweled' so it all falls into place. I mean, ya gotta go outta your way to screw it up... Easy stuff m'man.... Get it up on stands... Just unbolt everything that needs unbolting (Or cut them) get your floor jack underneath.. Undo the back end of the leaf springs (Depending on if the axle is above or below the leafs...I'll bet yours is below, so then never mind..) ... And let er' drop and roll it out. (It's a lot eaiser if you leave the wheels on)
So let's see... 4 bolts for the driveshaft... You're gonna cut the u-bolts, so that doesn't count, 2 shock bolts, one connection for the brake line, and disconnecting the E-brake cables.... Hell, that's one afternoon. And I'll bet that you spend most of the time changing-over/bleeding/adjusting brakes.
You can do it Jim. You're a Mopar guy. I have faith in you! :D
If not for the rest of us.... DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN!!! ;)
No thanks. If I had a second car, I would do it, but to do a motor and rear end back to back is too much---and they have to be done pronto. Don't want to break down with the baby! Future father-son project.
You're on the money with ford. God, I hate them. When i think of the time and money absolutely wasted on those things....
Yeah, like even buying a brand new one to begin with....
As far as the red truck goes, I keep forgeting about the milage. Bearing that in mind that is a good deal, cnsidering everything works. I'll call about it tomorow.
Yeah, it looks like a 'fair' deal.... Make sure you listen for any funny driveline/suspension noises. Look over the frame carefully for cracks. Snow plows have a way of beating the ever-lovin' s**t out of a rig... ANY rig....
I've had to get the arc-welder out for a couple of spots on mine.... Make sure you check out where the mount for the top of the front shock bolts to the frame... A weak spot when you've been slammin a 400 lb. plow into immovable objects. (Only because there are holes drilled in it) Check to see if they've done anything at all to beef up the front suspension. If so, that should put your mind at ease a little. If it's easy enough to drop the plow (And Myers are pretty easy) drive it around without the plow just to check how the steering suspension feels. Hopefully the front springs will still have at least a little 'arc' to them...
Don't ask me how I know about all this. Snow sucks, but that's the price you pay ;)
I'll call about it tomorow. :rck:
vestpuzzle1
05-01-2006, 10:08 PM
It is pretty cool looking..I bet it'll plow more than snow?
vestpuzzle1
05-01-2006, 10:13 PM
blah,blah,blah ;)
:thatfunny
vestpuzzle1
05-01-2006, 10:14 PM
How's everyone been?
bherder
05-02-2006, 09:43 AM
How's everyone been?
Pretty good there Vest.... Been fixing things other than doing body work on the PW... But that's what I get for having a household with 7 rigs and a mother-in-law that refuses to buy anything but FURD's.....
How's everything over there where the buffalo roam?
swami2806
05-05-2006, 03:53 PM
Went to check out that red 87 W150 today (I'm looking at 2--one blue and one red). What a HEAP! Seller (used car dealer, with a detail shop on the premesis...what do you know!) Ad said it had 74k on it. Looked more like 174K-no joke. Everything was seeping--engine gaskets+seals, tranny and front case too. I didn't even make it to the rear end! All brake lines were blistered badly, and the "minor" rust wasn't so minor. It sure appeared that way, but I knew what lied underneith! The frame was actually in good shape for a plow truck. The front springs were flat, and there was a brand spanking new oil pan on the filthy motor--old one likely rusted. Hole in DS floorboard. The driveshaft was scaly and pitted and there was NO GREASE IN THE TIE ROD END BOOTS!! The boot was all shrivled, so I lifted it with the screwdriver I was using to probe rust. Bone dry. There was even a thin coat of tan surface rust all the way to the through-bolt! The ball joints were the non-greasable type and they were shot. Didn't even drive it. Said "thanks but no thanks." He actually asked why!!!. I said "C'mon!" and pointed to my truck, and told him it was the same year and had 133k on it, almost twice as many. It's a cream puff compared to that. I told him he should sell it as a yard plow. I wouldn't drive it on the road. Told me to make an offer. I told him I needed a truck road worthy and I wouldn't take it at any price. But if I needed a junker/farm truck I'd give him 800 max for it, and that's too much but it's a 4WD.
Jimal Temus
05-05-2006, 04:36 PM
Swami,
After what I went through with getting my '87 D-100 back on the road (for the want of a broken manifold stud), I can feel your pain, but replacing a rear end is cake. As long as you can get a good replacement, the job is an afternoon, tops. It is much easier than the engine you aleady replaced.
Jim
bherder
05-05-2006, 05:00 PM
Oh man... Hey, you shoulda' said "You pay ME $500 and I'll get it off your lot..." :D
Yeah, well, I guess you really haven't started looking a LOT yet, so this stuff is bound to happen. It sucks when people don't take care of their rigs. Keep in mind though that any older rig that has been used as a plow truck is probably gonna be torn up a bit. Especially if it was driven by someone who didn't own it, therefore dosen't give a rat's ass....
Having a plow is great (Especially where we both live) but maybe you should look for a plowless rig... ;)
You should have seen my 79' when I first got it... I bought it from my wife's uncle. You'd think that 'family' would give ya a break, right? As soon as he knew I wanted it, it became the 'Best Truck Ever Built on the Face of the Earth'.... Yeah, right.
None of the gauges worked, it needed a new alt and water pump, hole in the DS floorboard, both tail lights were busted, the rear bumper was half hanging off, the windows wouldn't roll down, suspension was shot, brakes were shot, tie-rod ends were shot, ball joints were shot, it needed a new carb, the frame had a few minor cracks and the sub-frame that the plow hangs off of was riddled with broken welds.... And the rear gas tank was so full of crud it was unusable.
To him.... This was a $3500 rig. Only (I think) because it had a really nice BOSS V-Blade plow (Actually the plow worked better than anything else)
So after bartering with him for a full 6 months, I got it down to $1500 and cut him a check.
After I spent months of work and bleeding hands and cussing and throwing wrenches and who knows how much $$$ getting it 'right' the SOB had the nerve to offer to buy it back for $1800 .... and he acted like he was doing me a favor!!!!
(I haven't seen him since, but I'll bet he's still sporting the 9/16 combo wrench I buried in his forehead.... It's a shame. That was my favorite wrench...)
Keep looking there Jim.... You'll find a gem. It takes awhile sometimes....
swami2806
05-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Well, there's more to an engine job for sure, but rear ends are so heavy and there is no good position to drop them and remove them.Kinda like removing a tranny without a tranny lift. Only a few bolts, wires and a cable to disconnect but the weight and size makes it suck hard, I think. They're just heavy and cumbersome. With an engine, a lift does all the grunt work!
bherder
05-05-2006, 05:23 PM
Swami,
After what I went through with getting my '87 D-100 back on the road (for the want of a broken manifold stud), I can feel your pain, but replacing a rear end is cake. As long as you can get a good replacement, the job is an afternoon, tops. It is much easier than the engine you aleady replaced.
Jim
See??? SEE??? Jim, (Swami Jim) I'm tellin' ya it's not as bad as you think. This Jim, (Jimal) is backing me up... ;)
It's no big deal.... Get your parts lined up and, like Jimal says.... One afternoon. What will make it go smooth and fast is, buy new u-bolts. Just cut the old ones off (You really do want to use new ones anyway) ...
Soak everything you'll want to undo with some penatrating oil for a couple of days before you do it... You'll spend the most time changing over/bleeding the brakes. And that's just EASY sittin'-on-a-bucket stuff.
swami2806
05-05-2006, 05:37 PM
Okay, okay, next truck I'm swapping out the rear end, whether it needs it or not! :D
bherder
05-05-2006, 05:52 PM
Well, there's more to an engine job for sure, but rear ends are so heavy and there is no good position to drop them and remove them.Kinda like removing a tranny without a tranny lift. Only a few bolts, wires and a cable to disconnect but the weight and size makes it suck hard, I think. They're just heavy and cumbersome. With an engine, a lift does all the grunt work!
Two jack stands and a floor jack.... Easy stuff. That's why I say, if you leave the wheels on and prop the body up just enough for the wheels to clear the ground.... you just let it down with a floor jack and roll it on out.
"Kinda like removing a tranny without a tranny lift"
What, you've never had a cast iron 4-speed manual sittin' on your chest while you're trying to wiggle it in or out? Hey, that's what some of us call FUN! :D :D :D
bherder
05-05-2006, 06:28 PM
Okay, okay, next truck I'm swapping out the rear end, whether it needs it or not! :D
OK... And I'm gonna be standing over your shoulder, to make sure you do! :D :D :D
bherder
05-05-2006, 06:45 PM
It is pretty cool looking..I bet it'll plow more than snow?
Hahahaha..... I've actually used my V-Blade plow to do a little... Shall we say... 'Road Contruction?'... ;)
I wonder if the county wonders how so much of the gravel they put down on the dirt road leading to my driveway (1/2 mile long) has ended up in my driveway .. :D
acton mike
05-05-2006, 10:18 PM
i have wrestled a tranny out on my chest without the benfit of a jack - things we do for love --- or because w are broke
bherder
05-06-2006, 08:59 AM
i have wrestled a tranny out on my chest without the benfit of a jack - things we do for love --- or because w are broke
Hey, that's the way He-men do it! None of that sissy jack-stuff for us! :D :D :D
